Broomhandle Questions: Is it or Isn't It??

[Redcoat3340]

Found at my LGS...but I've got some questions. Perhaps folks here can help.

Attached are a few pics.

It's a 9mm but nothing on the grips. 9mm stamped on top of barrel. Only other marking is import stamp on the grip frame: STG ?? Monte. CA Didn't see a serial number, but I didn't really look for one...but it wasn't obvious.

It looks great....reblued?
Bore looks very good as well.
Follower in the magazine looks great...no grime.

Lots of machining marks.
The frame above the grips is flat and plain...not like the pics of the Mausers I've seen on the interwebs.

Small ring.
Comes with wood shoulder stock and it cut on frame for the stock attachment.

So what have I got here? Chinese? Spanish? Who else made 'em. (Feels too solid for Chinese knock off....I'm doing more research but I thought I'd start here.

They are asking $1200.00 and it's on consignment. I'll be trading a few safe queens in addition to some cash I suspect.

 

[Browning]

Are you sure the stamp doesn't say ...
'BTC El Monte CA'?

(Bricklee's Trading Company in El Monte California)

I grew up in El Monte, that used to be an awesome store. They had guns stacked and piled from floor to ceiling. It was in a huge warehouse type building with surplus guns everywhere. Mortar and Machine gun displays. Large pallets of Japanese Arisaka's for $25. Russian SKS's for $90. Chinese SKS's for $49. I bought several rifles and shotguns from them. Really good deals.

They used to be a major importer.

 

[Jim Watson]

I think you are looking at one of the guns made up with Schnellfeur M712 parts from the great Chinese wave of surplus on a US made semiauto receiver.
Can't say if it is worth that much.

 

[tark]

Obviously re-blued. That trigger isn't Mauser and neither is that hammer. I think it is exactly what Jim thinks it is. Only you can decide if the price is too steep but I would offer less. Often times the consignor will agree to a lower price. How long has it been there? If more that a few months, the odds are better that the consignor will take less.

In any event, I would want to put at least one magazine through the gun. Tell them if the gun runs, you will buy it. If the seller refuses I would walk away.

And LOOK for a serial #. If it doesn't have one, disappear.

 

[RecoilRob]

I have one of the Fed Ord Broomhandles built on the 712 upper and it's clearly marked as such. There are a couple things that make me question the pistol in question: first is the shoulder stock and cutout for it...this shouldn't be if it's a modern receiver being that makes it a SBR. Only the original guns are permitted to have the stocks by BATF and be considered pistols.

Having the detachable magazine is a neat feature...but be aware that the mags are scarce and VERY pricey if/when you find them. I DO love the C-96 design and believe that everyone should own one for at least a while so they can fondle and especially disassemble it and marvel at the machine work and how clever they are made. But unless you can figure out the manufacturer of the lower I'd be real careful with that one.

 

[Gordon]

Bricklee Trading had at least one master Obendorf pistol smith thru the early 90s.