Browning BLR alternatives?

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In bench shooting, they are just a bit too light to hold steady.

Really? BLR's?

My BLR .243 scoped and empty weighs 8 lbs 7 oz (steel frame)

My Rem 700 .270 scoped weighs 8 lbs 2 oz (wood stock)

My Rem 700 scoped .35 Whelen weighs 8 lbs 3 oz (wood stock)

Both of those 700's above are lighter than my BLR.

I've got other bolt actions (Remington, Winchester, Krag) that weigh from 8 lbs 14 ounces to an even 9 lbs that are heavier than my BLR.

To me the BLR's are not that light...at least the one I own weighs in heavy.
 
My bolt action weighs 10 ounces less than the .243 BLR and shoots great off the bench. I don't think weight has anything to do with it, the BLR trigger was not good. It just wasn't an accurate rifle. Others may be as accurate as a good bolt action, this one wasn't.
 
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That's nice and light. My 1.5+ pound heavier .243 is the steel frame version. Is yours the BLR Lightweight alloy frame version?

And as an added note...I'm envious of yours being chambered for .257 Roberts! :what:
 
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"The lever generation has passed, maybe never to return"
Blasphemy i say, stone this man to his death!! (LOL) I say that every american rifleman owes it to himself to own at least one lever action rifle, it's in your heritage!
 
That's nice and light. My 1.5+ pound heavier .243 is the steel frame version. Is yours the BLR Lightweight alloy frame version?

And as an added note...I'm envious of yours being chambered for .257 Roberts! :what:
I would love a BLR in Bob as well. Closest I have seen is in .223 and I let it walk... DOH!
 
So a guy walks into a gunshop looking for a rifle to hunt with. For this sake of this discussion the following hypothetical conversation happened during a time when the shelves were almost bare.

Guy behind the counter says, "what sort of caliber do you want?"

"How about a 30-06?", the customer responds.

"Sure. We have two, a bolt gun from (insert well-known brand here) for $600 or a lever from Browning for $900."

"I'll take the bolt gun"

Scenario 2:

"I'm looking for a lever gun to hunt deer with."

"Sure. we have two. A 30-30 from Marlin for $450 or a 30-06 from Browning for $900"

"I'll take the 30-30."

Personally I own a BLR. I didn't buy it because it was a lever gun, and I didn't buy it because I'm a Browning fanboy. I bought it because it is chambered in 358 Winchester, the greatest cast boolet rifle caliber ever.
 
Elkins45, that's a good idea about the cast bullets. I have a BLR .358, care to share some favorite recipes?
 
I've got a bunch of rifles, but the lever-actions are my favorite.
Acccuracy is where you find it. My Marlin (and a "Marlington") aren't bench-rest target rifles and neither are any of my bolt-actions. The l/a's hold their own for accuracy. In fact, several of the l/a's will outshoot most of the b/a's, some by a wide margin.

My reason for liking the l/a's has to do with the fact that I'm right handed but have a left dominant eye. I shoot rifles and shotguns left handed. The l/a's besides some single shots are the best "ambidextrous" actions available. I'm not a fan of the AR's. I've got, had several. Just don't like the ergonomics of the "modern rifles". That and I don't "need" more than 5-6 rounds for hunting. Even encounters with dangerous game don't allow time for more than a couple of rounds. So, you need a quick handling POWERFUL rifle for dangerous game. Humans included, so, I prefered a shotgun for that 'application'... but I digress...

Getting to the BLR, I too have one. No, it's not as accurate as some others, but it's a .358wcf, not known for accuracy for several reasons.
1. It's got a LOOOONG throat. You can't get a bullet seated short enough to fit the magazine to touch the rifling. However, with a load it "likes", it is near MOA for 3-shots. Entirely adequate for it's purposes. I won't take it elk hunting in open terrain, but, for what I'd use it for, it's excellent. Lack of factory ammo is it's limiting trait. But, I handload so options are excellent. Besides, there isn't much a 200gr Hornady PtSpt at 2,500fps won't take.
2. It has a poor trigger. Feels like a 'mile' of creep. Weight isn't the issue. Just lots and lots of creep before it releases.
3. Mines a "steel" reciever. However, it's not heavy. Removing the "block" of rubber they called a recoil pad and installing a Boyds 1/2" pad removed close to 1/2lb and shortened the pull length to under 14". With a Leupold Vari-X II 2x-7x it weighs under 8lbs. Any lighter and it'd be obnoxious for recoil. It now handles beautifully.
Mine's killed drt every deer I directed it at. It was the original owners "most favorite" rifle of the over 50 he owned at his death. It's among my favorites.
One day I'm going to get a heavy "rifle" cast bullet mould for it. However, I've got too many other rifles to make that a priority. Besides, the Marlin .338ME just has everything all over this rifle/cart. Accuracy, ease of "fixing" the triggers, long range ballisitics, good and inexpensive cast bullet moulds (Lee)...
I don't like the new ones with aluminum recievers....

re; cast bullets. Just enough H4895 or Acc#5744 to make an RCBS 200gr FNGC to run 1,850-2,000fps.
 
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re; cast bullets. Just enough H4895 or Acc#5744 to make an RCBS 200gr FNGC to run 1,850-2,000fps

The RCBS 200gr FN is just an amazing boolet, isn't it? Whoever designed that one got everything right.

I've had good results with Alliant 2400 and that boolet in both my BLR and Ruger 77, and in 35 Whelen as well. I have loaded with slower traditional rifle powders but I think 2400 does a good job for mid-velocity loads.
 
Me too....It's my go-to 'boolit' powder for most of my cf rifles, and pistols. From .22Hornet to .45/70.

IRCC; the first Cast Boolit BR match was won with a .30/06 and 20.0gr of #2400.... I prefer 24.0 for a "hunting" load. Works for the .358 and .338ME, too!
 
Browning. The best there is. I have a BAR Safari in .270 The great part about the BLR is that the gun is magazine and not tube fed. Which opens up a greater variety of cartridges you can chamber the gun in compared to the tube fee where you have to use a blunt bullet. And then you go back to the fact that it is a Browning. Why do you want an alternative? A take-down BLR is on my short list to own soon.
 
Many years ago, I bought a steel-receiver Japanese BLR in 7mm-08 for one reason: I shoot left-handed and couldn't find a LH bolt-action in 7mm-08 in those days. I'm not even sure about their availablility these days.
That being said, if I met someone who had a LH bolt gun he'd be willing to trade for my BLR, I'd make that swap in a New York Minute!
 
Winchester made the .307 Winchester AE (Angle Eject), and Marlin the .308MX (Marlin Express). The .307 Winchester was a still born for ammunition availability and the .308 Marlin Express is hanging on by the graces of Hornady LeverRevolution ammo.

Both however do a creditable job of approaching the .308 ballistics. The LeverRevolution introduced the advantage of spire ogive polymer tipped bullets that can be tube loaded without chain-fire. The spire point grants the .308 Marlin Express true 300 + yd capability.

The BLR suffers from complaints about handling and action/trigger compared to the Winchester and Marlin offerings whether they catch on with ammo manufacturers or not.
 
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"Leverguns were never actually popular in the West. Most weren't even invented until the 1890's, and were poor sellers at first. The most common guns actually used back then were single shots. The leverguns were on their deathbed by the 1920's."

Are you familiar with the Winchester 1873? Custer & Co. got their butts kicked by them in 1876.

"Obsolete" doesn't mean people didn't continue to buy them, almost 3/4 million 1873 models were sold. Over a million 1892 models were sold. Don't sound like poor sellers to me.

I love my early BLR in .308, great handling woods gun.
 
I don't believe they are "obsolete" as sporting arms even today. I will stipulate that at least by the introduction of the M-16 they didn't have any military contracts in their future.
 
First, the lever gun will never go away. lever guns have a huge following.
2nd, I read here regarding the big price tag for a BLR, I call BS. How much is a new Winchester lever gun ? Yep, more then a BLR. Funny thing is that the BLR and the winchester are made in the same Factory. The Blr is made by the japanese company Miroku.
The fit and finish on a BLR is second to none, Miroku [ and Japanese standards are far beyond anything made in the good old USA. I have no problem owning Miroku made firearms, I have a BLR stainless takedown in .308 and a 81 243, both fine firearms.
I am a JM Marlin man threw and threw, but i love my BLR'S and would not ever sell them off.
My 2 cents.
 
I too was very impressed with the fit and finish of my 2013 production stainless takedown BLR in .308 Win. My only real complaint is that the trigger as supplied was almost double the specified weight. (8.8 vs 4.5 lbs). I managed to find a Canadian gunsmith skilled in the ways of the BLR trigger who was accepting such work and had it fixed. Now it matches the factory spec and I'm much happier.

One of the less-advertised advantages of the takedown model is that it wildly simplifies barrel cleaning. That becomes more important if you're practicing with it on the range in addition to taking it into the woods for hunting. (Unless you're hunting varmints the round count is typically low in the field).
 
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