Buddhists cling to guns and religion, too!

[yokel]

A predominantly Buddhist society like Burma is a good example of 'gun control', i.e. a state of affairs where firearms are a legal monopoly of the government forces. One side has good intentions and the other side has loaded rifles, and the result (so far) has been the same as it was in 1988 when pro-democracy demonstrations were ruthlessly crushed by the Burmese military- or even back in 1962 when the late General Ne Win first set up his socialist administration.

In Burma, as in Tibet, many people seem to have thought that altruism and the good intentions of the majority were more important than firepower - they appear to be mistaken.

 

[Treo]

I just want to know one thing, are these bitter, redneck Buddhists?

 

[Feanaro]

I would take out the book and instead digitally put a quote from the Dalai Lama that is pro-RKBA under your AK.

I disagree. If you quote the Dalai Lama accurately, the quote would not be tactically sound. Shooting to wound is a bad idea all around.

If you leave off that part, you are changing his meaning. It's obvious that he does not condone killing people intentionally, removing the leg bit changes the context.

 

[BruceRDucer]

Well, would you want all the authors of the Bible as your spokesperson? --Ridata

Good point, Ridata.

But they aren't living, and more importantly, that is effective only if the issue is entirely a religious issue.

The 2nd Amendment, per se, and self-defense, is not exactly a religious activity.

Arguably, a person of faith could produce such an argument. However, for all people, inclusive of the irreligious, they might reject Self-Defense out of hand, if it is made into only a religious issue.

Thanks for the comment.

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[BruceRDucer]

Also it should be noted that the state of equinimaty is considered to be achieved if one were to be meditating with others and to be confronted by a bandit. If you are threatened with death and neither run away nor offer up an other meditator to the bandit then your equinamity is perfected.---Mr. Kablammo

However Mr. Kablammo, placing any book at all, in such a poster, when the content of the author indicates nothing specific about the right to self-defense or RKBA is a form of deceit.

That becomes a game, or an act, and it will be identified by any adversary and pointed out, to the embarrassment to the community which advocates RKBA.

No religious context, justifies dishonesty.

The quote from the Dalai Lama, that is very good, and quite useable.

Remember the PETA ads, wherein they claimed that "Jesus was a Vegetarian"?

It is a lie of course, because at least the Passover meal involves eating Lamb, definitely a red meat.

PETA suffered massively for that deceit, and I was offended by it myself.

Thanks for the comment though. I learned something more of Buddhism from you.


P. S. Here's where deceit works: When the BG gets in your house, throw a bullet to the other side of the room. When the BG turns, shoot him in the butt.

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[QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW]

my wife and i are both buddist, but hell ya i would defend my family at all costs.

 

[dodging230grainers]

Not sure what Buddhism teaches, but according to Jewish halacha (law) if someone is coming to kill you, you are required to kill them.

 

[JImbothefiveth]

I'm catholic, so for me self-defense is O.K..
Maybe you should have some multi-religious thing going on. You could have a Christian, a Jew, and a Bhuddist standing together, holding their respective religious books, and a gun.

I don't think an ak-47 is a good gun to have for that poster, though. You want something that screams "not a threat to society in any way, shape, or form.", and the AK just doesn't do that. Maybe use a k-frame revolver.

I like the poster, just not quite as much as Armoredman's.

Well, would you want all the authors of the Bible as your spokesperson?

If you read the Gospels, they're actually pretty well-spoken.

 

[dodging230grainers]

I have to politely disagree Jim.

A k-frame would not have saved Buddhists or Jews from the Nazis.

An AK, FAL, or AR-15 is the most appropriate, IMO. I don't think buddhists have ever been a threat to society anyways.

 

[Ramone]

As a former (25 years) buddhist, I think it's kind of important to understand that 'Buddhist' covers as wide a range as grouping Judism, all Christians, and Islam together as 'People of the Book'...

It seems to me that using Dr. Chopra to represent Buddhist thought is a bit like using Wayne Dywer to represent Christians.

Ramone

 

[JImbothefiveth]

Dodging,
A k-frame may not have saved them frm the nazis, but if the purpose of this is to turn people pro-gun, you don't want to frighten them.
A revolver, or lever gun, double-barreled shotgun won't have people instantly think "criminal". It's probably even more important in this case (since he's involving religion, and a somewhat obscure one at that) that people don't see it and think it's a flier for a terrorist organization or the like.

That's what was so great about Armoredman's poster, you look at it and it seems normal, and really connects with people, it's just an average Joe holding a Bible and he happens to be carrying a revolver. If armoredman's poster featured a polymer pistol, it just wouldn't connect as well.

 

[tasco 74]

thy rod and thy staff they comfort me is pretty much the same in any religion......................

LIFE IS SHORT.... take the time to hug your kids and tell them you love them.....

 

[JImbothefiveth]

Tasco 74, you're not religion bashing, are you? The last guns and religion poster had a lot of that going on too, and I'd like to not see that happen this time.

And if you are: I have religion in case my back-up gun jams.

 

[jlbraun]

Because the religion is pretty peaceful and has not been traditionally associated with being antagonistic or militant, the AK can share space with a representation of Buddhist thought without being threatening, as some antis might feel would be the case if the book in question were a Bible, Torah, or the Quran.

 

[JImbothefiveth]

But you're trying to win over public perception.

Because the religion is pretty peaceful

So is Christianity. All it takes is a few bad apples to give the whole faith a bad name.

Like those Marxist/buddhists you mentioned.

You really don't want to make it look like guns=terrorism.

 

[tasco 74]

nope ... not bashing anything or anyone... i do like that line in prayer though... i believe that is about comfort of the means to protect... i was raised southern baptist and i don't try to bash any faith....... i'm just like you small town amercan clinging to my guns and faith..........

 

[XavierBreath]

Nice posters.

This thread has turned perilously towards a "my God is better than your God" thread. I'm going to go ahead and close it.

For more info, go here.

 

[JShirley]

I'm not re-opening the thread, but I believe a short article I wrote for Concealed Carry Magazine's website early in the year may be helpful.