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Not sure if this is the correct place for this, but...

Thinking about buying and assembling a "bug-out" bag for an emergency.
It will probably be a millitary style, shoulder slung atache case with molle straps on the outside to hold magazines, a holster, flashlight, etc.
What should the contents be for a natural disaster-ish senario?
So far the list is as follows...

x5 30rnd AR mags
x4 pistol mags (pistol too of course)
x20 #4 buck 12ga shells
(i figure if in the early stages of a disaster and leaving in a vehicle is feasable, why not bring a rifle, shotgun & pistol.)
Otis cleaning kit
good quality knife
3 days worth of MRE's
water filtration system
water bottle
hatchet
surefire light
extra batterys
rope
fire starter
small med kit
gloves

What else would you consider putting in yours???
 
I think you can find about 100 of these threads if you do a search to find some tips.

I'd add

Radio
TP
Multi Tool
Blankets


In my case I am not leaving the fortress that already has all needed supplies to go out into the wild especially not for a 72 hour threat. I'll wait it out.

Of course I don't live in a large city or in an area with Hurricane Dangers.

I do keep an Emergency bag in my car in case something bad happens while I'm on the road so I can have what I need to get back to Casa 2RCo.
 
I think you need to define your scenario better.

I don't really see the point of 5 AR mags and 4 pistol mags in a bug out bag. Are you going to war, or just trying to get through a hurricane?

If your friendly government agents see you with an AR and a shotgun, they are just going to take those away from you anyway. I think they are fine to have at home if you are bugging in, but if you are bugging out, I think concealment is important.
 
I agree with Balrog. If there is a hurricane,( live in the zone), You want to have protection when you life is in danger. You do not want to be going around like Robo Cop. Awareness of any and all things going on around you is priority #1. Beside the majority of looters are only thieves and are seeking the oportunity to get what they want and are not killers.
 
I'll add what I don't see to many people considering in many...many....many of these threads...Maps and a compass.

Get yourself some local, county , state and national maps and toss them in your bag....don't count on your GPS.
 
I don't have a bug-out bag. I don't see any need for one.
Upstate NY is a pretty safe place, but i remember a very cold ice storm no power for 2 weeks in areas. Those in rural area that had to go had to pack up for a week or so its nice to know you have a few things with ya in case your vehicle breaks down on the way to where ever. And its pretty much the stuff i take camping.
 
I think that most BOB's are focused on the wrong thing. A BOB is what you carry to LEAVE NOW, in case the plant that you live next to is about to go thermo or a riot envelops the city that you are in and you need to get out NOW to the embassy or Airport ahead of it. I would say keep it simple and light and focused primarily on clothing, food, water, CCW weapon(s), ID's, cash, emergency cell phone chargers and other com devices.

There are some things like First Aid Kit, Gloves, can openers, flash lights that are small and make sense no matter what the emphasis of the bag is, but there are people living in Urban areas that have BOB's weighing 60+ lbs that are focused on wilderness survival. I don't think that makes much sense. If the TEOTWAWKI comes you are either DEAD or ALIVE. I would keep some of your preparedness stuff in crates ready to pack or unpack as the event warrants. I would also keep a simple BOB(s) in the House / Car / Office to help you either 1.) get to where your crates are. or 2.) get out with your life.

The easier to carry, the easier to duplicate, the more likely you will have it on hand. The harder and more extensive, the more likely you will experience a fail when the SHTF and you need it.

These comments don't count so much for the OP, as he is in South Dakota, but still, for those of us in Urban areas I would review your company policy and try to build a BOB around that and the risks endemic in your area.
 
mbt2001 makes a good point. If you live in an urban setting more than 30 or 40 miles from the wilderness, your BOB probably won't have the same contents as someone who keeps their BOB in their hunting rig. In a true SHTF scenario, if you live in a large city or even a highly populated suburb, vehicle travel to get out to a wilderness location may be impossible. You may spend days trying to walk out of an urban setting.

I have 3 different "bug-out-bags", small, medium, and large.

My small bag is my EDC bag (12 pounds) that goes with me to and from work every day and sits beside the bed at night. It's a Code Alpha black laptop messenger bag. It contains basics like a GPS, flashlight, fixed blade knife, first-aid kit, high-protein energy bars, water purification tablets, handgun, storm-proof lighter, multi-tools, duct tape, paracord, etc.

My "medium" bag stays in my truck year-round, but is very portable if I had to evacuate the truck, or if vehicle travel wasn't possible. It's a camo back pack that weighs around 20 pounds, and contains a backpacking stove, fuel, lightweight cook wear, folding shovel, wood saw, compass, bottled water, freeze-dried food, hatchet, flare gun, etc. It's geared more toward wilderness survival and it's meant to compliment my EDC bag.

My "large" bag is basically my truck. A 4WD Toyota Tundra loaded with at least 150 pounds of gear, from a full-size shovel, machete and axe, to tools, gallons of water, food rations, clothing, rain gear, radios, tarps, etc.

My EDC bag has just enough in it for me to get to my home or my truck to get the larger bags and figure it out from there. Since I'm usually not more than 50 feet away from my truck, I keep my EDC bag pretty simple.
 
I would skip the shotgun, and its bulky ammunition. They're great on your property, bugging in, but if you have to move you can carry a lot more rifle or handgun ammunition in the available space.

Add a second knife and a second flashlight, because if you need one you might need two.

Add toilet paper, baby wipes, and diarrhea medicine.

I keep Benadryl handy because I'm allergic to bees.

Add a needle, thread, and some patches. Safety pins too. It would really suck to tear your pants or something and be stuck with them for a few days.

550 cord can be used for all sorts of stuff.

An "emergency poncho" is small and could prove valuble.

Emergency thermal blankets (the little ones in the little packages) can be used for a blanket, or to insulate a shelter.

Add water proof matches and a lighter.

A knife sharpener, a small one, is a good idea.

A bandana and some small towels can be handy. Also, something to keep the sun off of your face like a boonie hat.

I'd scrap the hatchet and replace it with one of those small Cold Steel Special Forces shovels. I've had to dig more than chop when out and about.

Water purification tabs take up much less space than a filtration system.

The best test of your stuff, and your ability to use it, is to go camping with friends, and try to survive using only the gear you have in your bag. That way, if you run into trouble, you can mooch off of them and not ruin a whole weekend for the sake of an experiment.

Make sure that you can hike with all of your gear (I did, and ended up cutting about half of the junk that I thought I might "need") if you think that you may need to do so in an emergency. Those shoulder bags are aweful for a hike, you may find the need for a large backpack instead

Any space you have in the end should be filled with bottles of water.
 
I would recommend reading the thread on "Listening to Katrina". It has a lot of good info on what you need for a good bug-out-bag. In general, you should consider where you live and what you will need to bug out from. Natural disasters like snow/ice storms, hurricanes, tornados, earth quakes, volcanic eruption, etc. Man made disasters like terrorist attacks, industrial accidents (at a fixed location such as a plant OR along major roads/railways such as chemical spills/releases). Also, accidents, like your house catching on fire. Listening to Katrina has recommendations for all of these scenarios based upon how much time you have to get out to safety and how far you need to go. For instance, if your house is burning down you aren't going to have time to collect your worldly belongings, but if your bug-out-bag (BOB) is on your way out of the house along with your keys, cell phone, and wallet/ID, then your BOB should have the following: a change of clothes (including shoes) and copies of all important information, including home insurance, car title/registration/insurance, birth certificate and/or passport, possibly a backup of family pictures stored on a flash drive, possibly your pistol/CCW plus ammo depending on the laws where you live.

If you have a hurricane barring down on you, generally you will have some warning of its arrival. You will have the BOB built for the "in case of need for immediate evacuation of the home", and you can layer beyond that of what additional supplies to take if you are getting out. Depending on what types of events you may encounter where you live, you can develop general plans for what you need to take with you to get out. Maybe you will have time to pack all of your guns and ammo in the car before getting out, but there are other things that should likely be packed first. A well designed BOB should be the first thing to be packed.

Also, consider your abilities when designing your BOB. If you amass a collection of wilderness survival gear (tents, axes, saws, etc), then make sure you are comfortable and proficient at using such gear. For example, I am not a camper. I don't enjoy sleeping outside or living off of the land. In fact, I've never had to do it, and I don't regularly put myself in situations where I would NEED to do it. I am, for all purposes, a "city boy", and as a result I don't keep that kind of gear on hand because I don't anticipate needing NOR would I know what to do with it if the need were to arise. Maybe that is a fault on my part, but it is reality. If you are good at the whole outdoor, camping gig, then use it to your advantage.

Remember, it is really easy to get "spun up" on the whole bug-out concept and planning for various scenarios. I am an engineer, and when evaluating the safety of a design we say "only design for one credible event". This means don't think "What if the hurricane coming through causes the nuke plant to melt down and spreads fallout over half the country? I need to be able to make it to Canada without stopping for gas." You can plan for melt down and the hurricane, but don't plan for both happening at the same time. Also, think about the most likely events when planning your BOB and strategies to get out. Ignor the less likely (but often more interesting) events. For instance, if you live in a small town in Mississippi on the gulf coast, you need to be planning for hurricanes of various magnitudes, not a freak snow storm or a terrorist attack.

Finally, remember that your BOB shouldn't be designed to provide for survival during and after TEOTWAWKI. In truth, no BOB can provide for such an event, and the likelyhood of such an event occuring is so low, you should seriously ask yourself the question as to whether it is worth planning for. If your answer is yes, then you need more than a BOB.
 
I'd make fun of yet another "BOB" thread that includes enough weaponry to take over a third world country, while not including even a single square of toilet paper, but a quick search on the part of the OP will save me the effort of repeating myself.
 
Think about where you plan to bug-out to. How far? How do you intend to get there given likely scenarios? What will it take in the way of a BOB to make that trip? Put the bulk of your bug-out supplies at the bug-out location so you don't have to carry so much. FWIW, $.02
 
I agree with ditching the shotgun. Also, instead of an AR, why not a .22 explorer and .22 sixgun? In an urban scenario, I agree that an AR might be what it takes to get you out of there, but in South Dakota I can't really imagine what you would be BUGGING out from?

A wilderness pack, in case you get stranded on a mountain pass or something of that nature, would not be amiss and I think that the .22 might function better in that regard.

Again, it really depends on what you are looking at. Shouldn't take much to keep an explorer .22 in the truck and most thieves wouldn't know what it was anyway.
 
Seconding RG walt's idea of that listening to katrina blog (which I learned about here). I picked up some particularly eye-opening ideas about ID and documentation, in particular.

(you can get a lot more done with a CZ P-01 and proof of who you are/what you own/what you've done than a CZ P-01 alone... or something like that...)
;)
 
I agree thats it's heavy on ammo(my BOB has about 50 rds )
I think more water, copies of important documents, and an ipod would be good additions, plus some extra socks.
 
I'd like to chime in on sidheshooter's post (not just because he gave props to me, but thanks!). The one thing I forgot to mention on from the Katrina blog that really got me thinking was not only proof of identification, but also proof of creditials. The person writing the blog had a lot of marketable skills that he could use to get a job when he got where he was going, but had no PROOF of these skills. Copies of degrees, transcripts, and/or professional certifications will help in the event of a Katrina-like bug out scenario where your home and livelyhood are wiped off the face of the map. If you are putting together an electronic set of records on CD/DVD/flash drive, include a copy of your resume so at least you have all the info together in a convenient location.
 
I can't think of a scenerio that is "likely" to happen where I live that would make a "bug-out-bag" necessary or even handy. I live 3 miles from the nearest town(Oneonta). I live adjacent to a major state highway. I am far enough inland that hurricanes, such as Ivan have lost most of their punch by the time they reach me. Tornadoes are very likely but are so small in area that any evacuation would be after the fact and only a very short distance. Ice/snow storms happen every 15 years or so resulting in loss of power for several days but no reason to evacuate. Earthquakes do happen here but are so small most of the time they go un-noticed until we hear about it on the news. Being prepared is good but prepare for the "likely" calamity in your area. I make sure I have plenty of wood for the fireplace,gas for the lights and cook stove, and drinking water. (There is a stream behind my house so water to flush the toilet is covered). As long as the house is still standing,I will shelter in place. If not ......
 
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