Bug-out bag
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mustang_steve
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Gear and explanation:
1) Pistol: go withs something potent and reliable, but as light as possible...weight will be a concern when bugging out. Have magazines for no more than 20 rounds of ammo and no less than 14. This will give you enough firepower to deal with anything within reason. To reload quickly, have a magazine speed-loader on hand. Keep about 100 rounds of ammo on hand. Remember, this is for defense, not for some virtual WW3 scenario.
2) Knife: Go with a multi-tool in this instance. It'll provide tools, as well as the knives. Make sure to have a belt case so it's readily acessible.
3) Food/Water: Ignore filling, and go for outright nutrition. A blend of multi-vitamins and some high-calorie bars you can make at home, then vacuum pack will serve you well. I've seen some bar recipes where two bars is 2400 calories and about half the USRDA for nutritional content....a single multivitamin brings it into proper nutrition. the other advantage is that the pre-prepared bars have no prep-time, no need for cookware and no need for plates/utensils...less to carry. For water, keep a filter AND Iodine tabs on hand. Optionally carry some gatorade powder to add sparingly to water to make it more palatable. If you have to carry water, have 2-liter bottles for each person, but 5 gallon containers full of water for each person as well. The 2-liters are a compromise for if you have to leave on foot....follow a waterway and filter/Iodine/gatorade powder as needed.
4) medicine: cortisone creams, ibuprofin (and any other painkiller you may have legally), superglue (to close cuts), Hydrogen Peroxide/90% Isopropyl Alcohol, wraps, sterile pads, and "popsicle sticks" are all a must for a first aid kit.
5) misc supplies: Space blankets, signaling mirrors (get the good ones), reliable butane "jet" lighter with a refill cylinder, handheld CB radio, AM/FM radio to recieve information, cell phone with extra batteries (yes, have a replacable battery model, with all batteries at full charge, use only when requried to), playing cards (for those times you can't do anything but wait). Clothes (take plenty of socks), extra shoes, waterproof coat/overpants....the stuff that keeps you from getting sick or from having blistered feet.
The idea of bugging out is a worst case scenario, but is not an apocalyptic scenario....just view it as a "get the hell out of dodge" kit....what it will take to vacate your area without any uneeded stops, and enough foresight to handle the way some people react to bad events in the worst way possible.
1) Pistol: go withs something potent and reliable, but as light as possible...weight will be a concern when bugging out. Have magazines for no more than 20 rounds of ammo and no less than 14. This will give you enough firepower to deal with anything within reason. To reload quickly, have a magazine speed-loader on hand. Keep about 100 rounds of ammo on hand. Remember, this is for defense, not for some virtual WW3 scenario.
2) Knife: Go with a multi-tool in this instance. It'll provide tools, as well as the knives. Make sure to have a belt case so it's readily acessible.
3) Food/Water: Ignore filling, and go for outright nutrition. A blend of multi-vitamins and some high-calorie bars you can make at home, then vacuum pack will serve you well. I've seen some bar recipes where two bars is 2400 calories and about half the USRDA for nutritional content....a single multivitamin brings it into proper nutrition. the other advantage is that the pre-prepared bars have no prep-time, no need for cookware and no need for plates/utensils...less to carry. For water, keep a filter AND Iodine tabs on hand. Optionally carry some gatorade powder to add sparingly to water to make it more palatable. If you have to carry water, have 2-liter bottles for each person, but 5 gallon containers full of water for each person as well. The 2-liters are a compromise for if you have to leave on foot....follow a waterway and filter/Iodine/gatorade powder as needed.
4) medicine: cortisone creams, ibuprofin (and any other painkiller you may have legally), superglue (to close cuts), Hydrogen Peroxide/90% Isopropyl Alcohol, wraps, sterile pads, and "popsicle sticks" are all a must for a first aid kit.
5) misc supplies: Space blankets, signaling mirrors (get the good ones), reliable butane "jet" lighter with a refill cylinder, handheld CB radio, AM/FM radio to recieve information, cell phone with extra batteries (yes, have a replacable battery model, with all batteries at full charge, use only when requried to), playing cards (for those times you can't do anything but wait). Clothes (take plenty of socks), extra shoes, waterproof coat/overpants....the stuff that keeps you from getting sick or from having blistered feet.
The idea of bugging out is a worst case scenario, but is not an apocalyptic scenario....just view it as a "get the hell out of dodge" kit....what it will take to vacate your area without any uneeded stops, and enough foresight to handle the way some people react to bad events in the worst way possible.
I have a question about a Get Home Bag that I am planning on storing in the trunk of my vehicle. In Ohio it is legal to store firearms and ammunition in the vehicle without a CCL, which I plan on getting for my birthday next month, as long as the one or the other is outside the passenger compartment.
My question is if there is any safety or reliability issue with storing ammunition in the trunk. I know it can get pretty toasty in the car during the summer and I just want to make sure the rounds will go off when and only when I call upon them.
I have a Rossi 38spl snub nose that I plan on putting in the kit until I am licensed to carry. I figure a couple speed loaders and 15 rounds of JHP should be MORE THAN ENOUGH for any situation I could find myself in. If I get in a situation where I need to rock n roll, I'm NOT going to be doing it with a snub 38... Fifteen rounds will knock out a few baddies, raise some hell, and give me time to get the hell out. 100 rounds? in speedloaders? Figure out how long your reload times are and multiply that buy the number of reloads it takes to get to 100 rounds. Just extra weight.
I also have some other essentials for a vehicle GHB. I think of this as a handy bag, rather than SHTF bag. How many times have you been stuck in the rain and had to drive home soaked for example?
1) I am a car enthusiast so my bag will include some tools. A tool kit is essential, even a small one. Duct tape, gum, and bailing wire will only get you so far. Having a multitool screwdriver and an assortment of wrenches exponentially increases in usefulness. I used to keep a toolbox in my trunk at college and it always came in handy. My GHB is designed around a medium size back pack so that I can store it in the trunk and still have room for groceries/whatever.
2) Water, water, water? If you don't need it, what happens if you blow a radiator hose in the middle of nowhere? You need to have a few quarts to be able to duct tape the hose together and refill the system.
My question is if there is any safety or reliability issue with storing ammunition in the trunk. I know it can get pretty toasty in the car during the summer and I just want to make sure the rounds will go off when and only when I call upon them.
I have a Rossi 38spl snub nose that I plan on putting in the kit until I am licensed to carry. I figure a couple speed loaders and 15 rounds of JHP should be MORE THAN ENOUGH for any situation I could find myself in. If I get in a situation where I need to rock n roll, I'm NOT going to be doing it with a snub 38... Fifteen rounds will knock out a few baddies, raise some hell, and give me time to get the hell out. 100 rounds? in speedloaders? Figure out how long your reload times are and multiply that buy the number of reloads it takes to get to 100 rounds. Just extra weight.
I also have some other essentials for a vehicle GHB. I think of this as a handy bag, rather than SHTF bag. How many times have you been stuck in the rain and had to drive home soaked for example?
1) I am a car enthusiast so my bag will include some tools. A tool kit is essential, even a small one. Duct tape, gum, and bailing wire will only get you so far. Having a multitool screwdriver and an assortment of wrenches exponentially increases in usefulness. I used to keep a toolbox in my trunk at college and it always came in handy. My GHB is designed around a medium size back pack so that I can store it in the trunk and still have room for groceries/whatever.
2) Water, water, water? If you don't need it, what happens if you blow a radiator hose in the middle of nowhere? You need to have a few quarts to be able to duct tape the hose together and refill the system.
Marlin 45 carbine
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duct tape won't hold radiator pressure long, best insurance is keep an eye on the belts/hoses. I carry a gallon of water in a cleaned-out antifreeze jug though. might not taste too good but filtered through a 'drinking straw' filter would prevent dehydration.
you're likely right about your .38. any gun and some spare rounds is better than a stick. I have an AR7 and spare 100 rds.
you're likely right about your .38. any gun and some spare rounds is better than a stick. I have an AR7 and spare 100 rds.
jimmyraythomason
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I suggest getting another jug for your emergency drinking water. Ethylene Glycol is poison to anything that drinks it. As highly diluted as it would be in a gallon of water it could still cause problems. Not worth taking the risk since you still have time to get another container now. Ethylene Glycol poisoning is an agonizing way to die.
JMusic
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I'm going to sart my generator up depend on my security and watch TV. If cable goes out then I'll get pissed and shoot anyone screwing with me or my neighbors and for sure anyone screwing with the cable guy.
Jim
Jim
mustang_steve
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If you're worried about hoses/belts...keep spare sets in the car. They aren't particularly expensive for most vehicles. If it's a transmission cooler line that's busted, just cap it off, refill the tranny and run it like that. The tranny cooler is just to prolong it's life, it can run fine for a few months without it. A Tachometer is crucial....have one. It cffan tell you when there's a low transmission fluid issue easily. The sign is engine RPMs are too high for the speed. For example, my car runs at 1500RPM @ 55mph, 2500RPM @85mph. Knowing that, If I see the car at 2000RPM at 55, then I know it needs a quart of fluid.
Unless it's in the dead of winter, most cars can handle straight water if you keep tabs on the engine RPMs when moving and how long you idle the vehicle.
Unless it's in the dead of winter, most cars can handle straight water if you keep tabs on the engine RPMs when moving and how long you idle the vehicle.
ThrottleJockey72
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Correct, but if you loosen the cap to the non-pressurized position, the coolant will still circulate and the tape will get you home.
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Water Garden
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[E]nergy:
1 US coast guard style/coconut food brick (18 bars)
3 quarts of water plus a full camel-back.
1 usgi metal cup
1 metal spork
2 can SPAM
[E]nvironment
1 french half shelter (basically a triangle shaped canvas tarp)
1 50ft 550 para-cord , 1 folding pocket knife , 1 led flashlight
1 USGI wool blanket 1 Gortex poncho 1 poncho liner
1 wool cap, 1 gloves, 1 neck-muffler 1 boots
3 bic lighters 1 plastic container with 30 cotton balls
1 box matches 1 field knife
njury
Personal first aid kit
[E]nemy
Defensive tool of your choice
tility
$200.00 small bills
1 cell phone
1 pack gum
1 US coast guard style/coconut food brick (18 bars)
3 quarts of water plus a full camel-back.
1 usgi metal cup
1 metal spork
2 can SPAM
[E]nvironment
1 french half shelter (basically a triangle shaped canvas tarp)
1 50ft 550 para-cord , 1 folding pocket knife , 1 led flashlight
1 USGI wool blanket 1 Gortex poncho 1 poncho liner
1 wool cap, 1 gloves, 1 neck-muffler 1 boots
3 bic lighters 1 plastic container with 30 cotton balls
1 box matches 1 field knife
njury
Personal first aid kit
[E]nemy
Defensive tool of your choice
tility
$200.00 small bills
1 cell phone
1 pack gum
ThrottleJockey72
member
My bug out system is more of a multi-tiered nature. I have a wife and small children to worry about as well. We each have the "basic" bag that is good for anywhere from 72hrs-30days, then there is a "primary" pack that will extend things a bit more, up to 90-120 days, then there is the "secondary" pack that when used with the others, will sustain us indefinitely.
Fred Fuller
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C'mon, folks... this has been done to death.
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