Burmese pythons establishised in South Florida and expanding range rapidly

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i wouldnt trust a snake that sees a 6 foot aligator as food not to see me as the same - Ditto

Al also wonder about all validity of information on "pet" snake raised in little cages, "socialized" somewhat (as much as snake can be), and fed on regular basis, as compared to the second and third generatiuon "wild" Boas n Florida.

Now all that said, not time to hit the bunker just yet ;)
 
http://www.anapsid.org/nyburm.html
Based on a New York Times Report by David Herszenhorn. Thursday - October 10, 1996.

According to the New York Times, 19-year old Grant Williams of 365 East 183rd Street Bronx died as the result of an attack by his 13 foot long Burmese Python which may have mistaken him as food.

The victim was found at about 1:30 PM on October 9th by a neighbor lying in a pool of blood with the snake coiled around his torso in the hallway of his apartment building. He was pronounced dead at Jacobi Medical Center. An ambulance crew removed the snake from the victim and it was taken to the Bronx Zoo.

According to the report, Williams and his 17 year old brother, Lamar, purchased the snake at a local pet store known as Pet City about five months ago for $300.00.

This attack may be a feeding related incident as a live chicken was found nearby, still in the box. Williams was apparently getting ready to feed the snake, out of its cage. Pythons, like other snakes, have an acute sense of smell. The detection of a food odor such as a chicken and the proximity of Williams to the snake evidently led the snake to mistake Williams as its prey or food.
 
If I was just planning on killing the snake, a shotgun would be my choice.#6, # 5, #4 ...any bird shot would do the trick. A good knife should be with you any way.

We may have found the exact place to sell "The Judge". Five rounds of .410 on your hip...snake medicine!

Not to get OT, but...haven't I also heard of this same problem with beaded monitor lizards in south/central Fla.? I feel both should be hunted out and a good bounty should be offered to encourage the effort.

Happy hunting!

Mark.
 
W.E.G.

My python boot is too tight!....
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I couldn't get it off last night
A week went by
Now it's July
I finally got it off
And my girlfriend cry
She said,
"STINK-FOOT!
STINK-FOOT, darlin'
Your Stinkin' Foot puts the hurts on my nose!
STINK-FOOT! STINK-FOOT! I ain't lyin'
Can you rinse it off, do you suppose?

Thank you Frank Zappa!
 
GuyWithQuestions,

If it killed your dog and was "chilling" it wouldn't seem very justifiable to kill it, when you could call 911. I mean, maybe you could file suit against whoever let it get free, but unless it's endangering other property or yourself/family, it isn't very justifiable.

It'd amount to killing it out of revenge. It was a starving/hungry animal doing what it does to survive. I understand where you're coming from, and I doubt you'd be prosecuted for killing it, but if you found a huge snake that had eaten your dog and it wasn't aggressive, you'd probably be best off just calling the right people.

Though it would be hard not to let your emotions (over the dog's death) influence your thinking on this, at the time.

"The family that owned the dog had actually seen it in the dog's bed, which was a sign it was out to get it," he added.
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In other news, man has landed on the moon.
 
We have a ball python (subsahra african origin). Is only 44" long and shouldn't get a whole lot bigger. We feed live mice. Put it in and let the best one win! In observing it's stalk and kill, the silence and slow movement of the stalk phase seems to add sucess by suprise to the sudden strike and wrap when victom mouse is in range. Sitational awareness would be a key here. Identify the snake before getting too close. But common events to draw attention to a threat such as movement and noise don't happen with the python. Having a edged weapon avalable and either hand deployable would seem prudent. The compression phase of the attack happens rapidly with the victoms chest compressed which should stop bloodflow into the chest and therefore bloodflow out also interrupted. The mice seem to have 3-7 seconds before going out. Perhapts some vigerous slashing of the python body where ever you could reach in the last seconds on consciousness might save you. I would prefere the stand off and blaze away with whatever firearm you have method rather than the CQB described above.
 
. They are NOT moving to Deleware or California. They cannot tolerate freezing conditions, and even extended periods of very cool weather may do them in as digestion stops and food in the digestive tract may go putrid.
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I don't believe that, why? a few years ago a guy was fishing on a lake here in Michigan and he caught a piranha, DNR said it was legit but a freak thing and would never happen again, next year more were caught, animals can adapt and survive.
 
If it killed your dog and was "chilling" it wouldn't seem very justifiable to kill it, when you could call 911. I mean, maybe you could file suit against whoever let it get free, but unless it's endangering other property or yourself/family, it isn't very justifiable.

It'd amount to killing it out of revenge. It was a starving/hungry animal doing what it does to survive. I understand where you're coming from, and I doubt you'd be prosecuted for killing it, but if you found a huge snake that had eaten your dog and it wasn't aggressive, you'd probably be best off just calling the right people.

Though it would be hard not to let your emotions (over the dog's death) influence your thinking on this, at the time.
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Didn't they say that people were throwing chairs at the snake but it didn't work? I guess you could also say that a snake that broke in and killed a pet dog is also a danger to small children and that you had to kill it right away (and don't tell them that you knew that most likely it would want to digest it's first meal first).
 
Reason number 5349 why Australians should have guns. Hell, with all those extra-specially deadly critters they've got, they need them more than we do.
 
"Reason number 5349 why Australians should have guns. Hell, with all those extra-specially deadly critters they've got, they need them more than we do."
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There are a lot of dangerous critters there (read the great book from Bill Bryson called "In a Sunburnt Country"), but most of the worst ones I think would be hard to fight with guns :)

A better reason might be that it would be a shame for Australia ever to become an oppressive tyranny.

timothy
 
When I was in Australia, I found out that 9 out of 10 of the world's most venomous critters live there. They even have a poisonous bird for cryin' out loud. First I'd ever heard of one! :what:
 
Yeah, and everything on da interwebz is true, right? I actually SAW a python consume a good sized WHOLE calf which is at least the same size as a human. Maybe they don't like human flesh or something, but a python could do it if it wanted to. We're much more "streamlined" than a calf, too.
 
1) What would it take to kill one of these? I don't mean only "what caliber / bullet is appropriate?" (if bullets are even the best way), but where to hit and how hard it is to do.
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I can see it now a whole new line of threads:

What caliber or gauge for a 4meter burmese python?
What caliber or gauge for a 2meter burmese python?
What caliber or gauge for a burmese python?
What caliber or gauge for a burmese python that just ate your dog?
 
I would want a good fixed blade knife, maybe something like my Cold Steel Peace Keeper II and a shotgun with a mod or full choke loaded with #2 shot. If a shotgun is impractical I think I would go with something like my CZ-75.

Paying attention to your surrounding is more paramount than the weapon carried. IF this snake isn't going to see you as food, and the resident experts say it won't, then it will probably let you know with a loud hiss if you get to close. Right? Wrong? How will a snake in the 20 foot range react defensively? I've heard pythons hiss. I'm assuming these would do the same if they felt threatened, correct?
 
Get some shotshell ammo, the make it in pistol calibers for snakes and pests
 
shotgun. Also, do not let it grab your throat. Constricting snakes aim for the upper area of your neck and head so that they can properly coil you. If they grab your leg, then fighting it off is easier than you think. Also keep in mind that, like most predators, they prey on lone animals. Being in and staying near a group of people will almost always keep just about any animal away from you. And if it doesnt, then at least you'll have it outnumbered, and probably will succeed in scaring it away.
 
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