Bushnell dropped all Elite 3200 & 4200 scopes

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forgive me if this is old news.
I just called all (5) of my wholesale suppliers to have them check stock for these old-time popular scopes (Light optics Works japan) .. almost all gone from US wharehouses..
Bushnell has a new line and I worry they will not be made in L.O.W. anymore :what:
Leuphold buys their lenses from L.O.W. if you know what I mean
 
I think this is fairly new news. I had a hunch though, since Midway was doing closeout pricing on various Elite models.

I have an Elite 3200 I bought last year. Great scope. However, Bushnell's rebate processing contractor rejected my 100% complete and correct rebate submission, falsely claiming I hadn't included the UPC code. That really soured me on anything having to do with Bushnell.

From what I've seen, the best sub-$500 scopes available are the Vortex Viper and various Burris models. I won't be missing Bushnell one bit.
 
the Elite 3200 and 4200 were the only Bushnells worth buying to many people. Meade may have purchased Bushnell like they did tasco and simmons. Only guessing though.
.. those 3rd party rebate companies always wiggle out of payments if they can, no connection to the product manufacturer
 
I bought one when it was still Bausch and Lomb. Great scope.

But the Elite series pretty much prices it with Leupold, and scope buyers in that class just might be prejudiced against the name "Bushnell."

I know I was hesitant to buy a Bushnell scope for my AR, so I went with Leupold instead for not a lot more money.
 
those 3rd party rebate companies always wiggle out of payments if they can, no connection to the product manufacturer
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Oh, I know that rebate offers are designed to trip you up, and the processors look for that. But I know I met every step, and their rejection was a fraud.

This was a rebate processor out of Minnesota. I've submitted dozens of rebates in the last few years, most of them to some place in North Carolina (Airport Drive in Monroe?, used by Remington and EOTech) and no others have been rejected. And even if it's a separate firm from the manufacturer, the manufacturer chooses who to use. It seems to me that the manufacturer here (Bushnell) chose a firm that just plain cheats. To me that reflects on the manufacturer.
 
Z-Michigan:

Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you and I have a common flaw--we trust that people and companies will adhere to the "principle of the matter".

You should be sure to add this company in the rate transactions here at THR so people know...a good Buyer be Ware. :cool: Then, I would contact the BBB and the closest C o C in their area. It's not the money, it's the principle of the matter.

Geno
 
The 3200 and 4200 are gone. Now there's the Elite, which is pretty much same as the 4200.

Sansone - where did you get the idea that Leupold gets their lenses from LOW?
 
Thanks, just had not run into that one before. Makes sense to me. I like my Elite3200. Too bad on the change, but nothing stays forever.
 
Looks like the new "Elite" line is pricier than both the 4200 and 3200 lines of old....:( Low price and great quality are two things they had going for them.

I got a 6-24x50mm 30mm tube Elite 4200 Tactical for $550 (normally $700, MSPR of $1100).

Looks like now the comparable scope in the "Elite" series is selling for $790 where it used to sell for $700)
 
LOW reportedly made the 3200's and 4200's and now make the Elite. They also make or have made scopes for Weaver, Nitrex, Bushnell, Simmons, Cabela's, and others.
 
i have a B&L Elite 3000, Bushnell Elite 3200 40mm and a 50mm and i love em all
my latest was the 3-9x40 with firefly that i got for 200 bucks on sale about 2 years ago...its been awesome
 
hopefully the new Elites will be completely manufactured by L.O.W. like the 3200's and 4200's.. Some companies buy the glass from LOW but assemble the scopes in china. One reason leuphold scopes are so expensive is because they are produced in the US and pay US wages to the folks assembling them.
 
I think the new 6500 series has replaced the 4200 and 3200, Midway had the 3200 fixed 10 power tatctical on sale for a month or better for 299$
 
Peakbagger46 said:
Kind of wondered when I picked up a new 4200 the other month for $300 :)
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..you did real good, I'm hoping the 3200 adjustable objective scope found TODAY makes it to me. It was the last one from a regular supplier of mine. You know how the last one can somehow be missing or computer error. If I can't have this 3200 I'll probably get a nikon Monarch but it will cost $100 MORE
 
When I saw the closeout I bought 2 of the 3200 2-6 pistol scopes for $189 each from Natchez. Awesome bargain on excellent scopes.
 
Natchez has the Elite 3200 fixed 10X for $149. I put one on my flat top AR two months ago.
 
Natchez has the Elite 3200 fixed 10X for $149. I put one on my flat top AR two months ago.
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Yep. I have some spending money now, and I'm thinking about getting one, just because it is so cheap. I'll find a use for it somewhere.
 
I had the same thing happen with a lap top computer I bought about 8 years back. I don't buy anything banking on a rebate anymore. They suck.

I hope Bushnell comes through with something at least equal to what the 3200-4200 series were. They were good scopes. Also, they were keeping other companies honest while they were competition. I buy Leupold and Nikon scopes almost exclusively. I don't buy many high end scopes though. I have heard all the arguments, but for the benefit of more light for 15-30 minutes a day I can't see spending $300-$500 more. And then there's no saying it's going to actually help. I have 2 VX-1s 1 VariX II (Which is the same as a VX-1, a Nikon Prostaff, and a Nikon Buckmaster, and they all are clear enough for me. One thing to remember is that a scope is a sighting system, not a binocular. We shouldn't really use our rifle scope to be looking around the field in the first place. Buy some binoculars and use them to spot and identify game, then use the rifle scope to shoot it. Once you spot an animal and identify it, then it is easy to find it in a scope and then put it on target.
There is a definite safety hazard here. As the 10 commandments of hunter education state, never point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot. Well using your rifle scope as a binocular is a pretty obvious violation of that. Put your money in some good binoculars and use your scope for what it was made for, a sighting system. Just my opinion.
 
Walkalong said:
I was broke when the 4200's were on sale. Bummer. :(
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me too, but if I knew the line was being dropped I would have used my credit card & scrambled for $$ when the bill came.
I really would love a nikon monarch or leuphold but too expensive for me.
at least the elites were made in japan where the high-end nikons are made
 
Master Blaster said:
If you folks have been following the news LOW may not be producing much for a while its in Nagano

LIGHT OPTICAL WORKS,LTD.
YOTSUYA BUILDING,NO.1 YOTSUYA 2-CHOME,SHINJUKU-KU Nagano

and may be affected by the earthquake.
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thanks, I didn't know that..
the disaster in japan will hinder future shipments but not items already shipped. I'll bet items purchased this month have been here since last year
 
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