But honey, we live in a nice neighborhood, we don't need guns.

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Two dead after family surprises intruder in Sugar Land
By MIKE GLENN
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle

SUGAR LAND -- A Sugar Land mother and son were fatally shot and two other family members wounded after they returned to their upscale home Wednesday night and surprised an intruder, police said.

The victims, whose identities were not released, were shot about 8:20 p.m. in their home in the 1100 block of Heron Way in Sugar Lakes subdivision, an upper-middle class neighborhood with houses valued at $200,000 and higher.

"The suspect shot all four family members," said police Sgt. Mark Grothaus. "We're still conducting the search (for the suspect) at this time."

The son died at the home, while his mother, 51, died at Memorial Hermann Hospital in Houston.

The father, 55, was in Memorial Hermann in unknown condition, while another son was taken by ambulance to a Sugar Land-area hospital.

The burglar was wearing some type of mask, but police had no other description of him.

Nearby residents said the sons had been home for holiday break from college.

"This is shocking. They were salt of the earth, lovely people," said Chris Woessner, who has lived near the family for almost two decades. "This is a very peaceful, quiet neighborhood."

His wife, Chrissy, said of the mother: "She was very sweet, loved her family and loved their boys. This just cuts to my heart."

She said the nature of the crime in the quiet, bedroom community has left some residents in fear.

"I just live around the corner -- something like this could happen to me," she said. "I pray for their family."

A handful of concerned neighbors gathered around the crime scene tape that stretched across the street while police and tracking dogs from the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Department searched for the assailant.

"The dogs are pretty good and we set up a perimeter fairly quickly," Grothaus said.

Emma G. Piepenbrok, who lives next to the victims, described the family as "wonderful people" who would often check her mail for her.

She said the husband was in the construction business and his wife was a teacher. They had lived there for at least 20 years.

"They have been such good neighbors to me," Piepenbrok said.

She said she did not hear gunshots but heard a loud "crash" sound followed by a man's hollering. She went to her front door to check the disturbance, but saw nothing. Shortly afterward, she said, police and ambulances arrived.

Beverly Campbell, who lives four houses from the victims, said she did not hear shots but learned of the incident when ambulances arrived and a Life Flight helicopter landed near her front yard.

"It's so sad a whole family (was shot)," said Campbell, who doesn't know the victims. "It just occurred to me (that) it could have easily been us -- if it was just random and they didn't know the people who did this.

"I was just talking to my son on Internet (e-mail), telling him about the shooting. He's in shock because he always felt so safe here. It's always been a very quiet, safe neighborhood. All our neighbors have been here for years."

Anyone with information is asked to call the Sugar Land Criminal Investigators Division at 281-275-2524 or Fort Bend County Crime Stoppers at 281-342-8477.
 
returned to their upscale home Wednesday night and surprised an intruder, police said.
an upper-middle class neighborhood with houses valued at $200,000 and higher.
Wow!!! Upscale for $200,000. That might get you a 3 bedroom, 30 yr old house around here in an okay neighborhood. I forgot how cheap it was to live in Texas. Upscale here starts at $500,000 and not even near the water.

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The 'nice neighborhood' comment is the most unfathomable statement people make. The ramifications of the automobile, much less public transportation just don't soak in, with the bovine grazing complacently.

A new family (mid-30's), from Chicago, just moved into a house close to us (two months ago now). They have two 2WD imported sedans. The husband 'wants to give his family the wilderness experience, the joy of living in the forest.' We met them while they, unaware that everything herebouts is private land were on our property - and he was smoking amidst thigh-high dead, brittle grass!

The woman (who was carrying an infant - diabetic, we learned - "The hospital isn't too far away, is it?") looked in wonder at the sweep of forest jsut a quarter-mile away, and than asked what had been making all the noise the previous night. I pointed to fresh mountain lion tracks not a yard away. . .

She turned white as a ghost. She mentioned 'At least we don't have to worry about crime and drugs up here!"

Susan went into the house and handed her the Neighborhood Watch sheet that listed two meth labs busted within half a mile, and reports of gang activity coming up here during the day to rob unoccupied homes.

She asked the woman if she knew how to shoot.

"We don't believe in guns - that's what the police are for!"

When told that law enforcement is thin, and no one is on duty between 2am and 6am, the woman trembled.

Yesterday I saw a 'For Sale' sign on their driveway.

I hope they go back to Chicago.
 
Surprising someone in my apartment is my biggest fear. I work in a federal building (no weapons) and park in a secure lot (so no weapons in car either) on an army base (car subject to regular random searches for weapons). I don't really have a problem being unarmed at work what with the fences and armed guards and such, but coming home is a little tense sometimes.
 
I have a pistol in a gun safe upstairs and down but I don't always take one with me and carry in my car. Now I think I better start packing again when I go to work and have a gun at the ready when I walk in the door at night. These stories are a big reason why I have guns.
 
We live in a 'nice' neighborhood. One of my neighbors asked why I felt I needed a gun, so I told her - There are three registered sex offenders in the next neighborhood over, within the las 18 months there was one warm burglary on the next block, there have been several attempted car-jackings and rapes in the Metro parking lot, a murder in the apartments behing the local grocery, a drive-by shooting at the high school and a couple of home invasions, all within a mile and half radius of where we were standing. APBnews.com put our zipcode at the low end of moderate risk.

The look on her face was priceless (Ignorance is bliss?), my question to her was "Why don't you have one?":evil: (actually, I offered to teach her the basics and take her shooting, no takers yet -)
 
I live in a small farming community north of Tucson, and about 100 miles north of the border. It's quiet and peaceful, in a mobile home park full of retirees. I carry 24/7, my wife carries 24/7, and several neighbors carry 24/7. Nothing has happened here beyond an unlocked car having the radio stolen two years ago....yet. But we still have deadbolts, chainlocks, alarm systems, dogs, weapons, reloads, and, *yawn* cell phones.
 
If I were a self-respecting bad guy I would give up robbing people in poor neighborhoods. Here is a shocking fact: poor people have no money. Now, rich people have money and things worth stealing. Therefore, I would hop into my stolen car and commute out to nice quiet suburbs where people leave their doors unlocked and have ridiculous left-wing lunatic theories about guns.
 
there is no neighborhood that is totally safe from crime. In the city there are gangs and in the country there are meth labs. the complacency some people adopt because they live in a "nice" place is both funny and sad
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Mrs. Foggy & I live in what we consider a "nice, safe neighborhood", in the far eastern 'Burbs of Cleveland. But that doesn't stop me from keeping my 1911-A1 as a bedside table companion.

A few years back, there were only a couple of lots left vacant. When the very last house was being built, I was awakened one night by the sound of sirens and flashing red/blue lights. Piecing it together the next day, with the help of guy next door (retired city PD detective), seems that a group of folks were operating a "Midnight Discount Building Supply" shop.

There were 5 or 6 young guys that were doing contract home remodelling, at hugely cheaper prices than anyone else. They were able to do that by [ahem] "obtaining" their supplies from houses being built. They got busted by someone on the next street over who was sitting out on his deck at 2:00AM, having a cold one, because his A/C had gone out. Guy saw the pickup come into the street, douse the lights, someone jumped out of the back of the pickup, and ran up the driveway, and opened the garage. Pickup drove around the cul-de-sac, then pulled into the new house garage, door went down. When they came out of the garage, the Police were waiting.

Note to bad guys...When the police have the street blocked with 2 cars, don't try jumping the curb at high speed into someone's yard, particularly if that yard has the fire hydrant. You may get the engine compartment/crankcase power-washed by the now broken hydrant/pipe stub......
 
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This sounds allot like the neighborhood that I live in. I will have to send this story to my wife. I am glad I have spent the time to put together a self defense plan for my house. If anyone gets any updates to this story please post them.
 
Yeah whatever. I live in a quiet town with little crime that I know of. Yet one night about two months ago about 5 local leos were giving a older guy (30's-40's) that's lived in the complex a stern talking to about stalking our woman neighbor. Our neighbor is from Los Angeles and said she came here to get out of all the crime.:uhoh:

But it can't happen here.:rolleyes:
 
i live in a nice little town a few miles north east of San Jose CA, i paid 234k for a 900 sq ft condo last year. within a 1 mile radius (probly closer to 1/2 mile) there are mega gated complexes of multi million dollar homes including one that was listed for 15mil last year. its easy to get in there as they leave the gates open from about 4:30 to 6pm becasue all the execs are on their way back in in their 100k mercedes sedans... theres a dozen or so sex offenders (per the town PD website) including one on my street. a house was busted into a few blocks away a few months back . generally low crime area, but.... my wife thinks im paranoid when i insist that no wrapped presents be left under the tree and the the blinds closed during the day when im not there...

nothing to steal at my house but my TV and my guns (i'm not paying the hospital bill for some BG who gets a hernia trying to boost my safe! ) ... at the rich folks house im sure they got nicer stuff...

when i was a kid one of the guys in my boy scout troop, his father was shot when the whole family walked in on Thanksgiving nite on a burglary in process... guy lived, but is still peeing in a bottle in his wheelchair. Think Thanksgiving is any fun for them ? AFAIK they never caught the guy.

there is a fine line between living your life paranoid and being alert prepared !!
 
We also live in a 'nice, quiet' neighborhood...and we had an attempted break in a while back. I think the sound of a 12ga and an irate 'Mama' letting them know I would shoot was all it took...this time. (Hubby wasn't home...just six kids and me.)

Time needed to get firearm ready by Homeowner: less than 10 seconds

Response time by local sheriffs office: greater than 10 minutes

Time needed for BGs to get in: Didn't wanna chance it... ;)
 
The sound of a shotgun slide being racked back and forth is one of Nature's signs that you don't want to mess with the homeowner...

As an earlier poster noted, the bad guys have figured out that (a) robbing poor folks doesn't pay, and (b) the stereotypical uppermiddleclass or rich folks sniff at the thought of "Guns" because that's what the police are for.
 
What gets me are people who "don't believe in guns."

Excuse me, campers, but we're not talking about superstition here... We're talking about something that you can reach out and touch.

Now, what is it that they don't believe in? Do they not believe that anyone will do them violence? Or do they not believe that they should be able to defend themselves or others against violence?

Next time you hear someone say "I don't believe in guns," ask them to clarify.

I don't believe in Bigfoot, but if I ever see him in the forest, I'll have to build a wing to house the trophy...
 
I live in a nice neighborhood, only difference is that I would say 3/4 of the people on my street are hunters and own at least a rifle or shotgun or two. Then again most of the people in my neighborhood are the salt of the earth, hard working, all around good people type with lots of common sense.
 
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