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Internet sales can go bad - Lesson Learned
I have bought and sold a number of firearms on the internet and most have been good. Ninety-Nine (99%) of these transactions have been black powder and did not require an FFL. My one bad transaction was off of Guns America. A guy advertised an antique single action S&W as mint. It had been engraved, had engraved ivory grips, and was silver plated. Came with a fitted case and an original box of 1880s ammo and an ivory tipped cleaning rod. When I received the gun, the action was binding and I immediately sent sent it to a reputable gunsmith who deals in antique firearms. The threaded sleeve that is pressed into the cylinder was broken. I contacted seller and the jerk accused me of breaking the gun. The gunsmith was able to fit another cylinder to the gun - but this meant it would also have to be engraved and plated. I was able to contact the engraver and get this done. He also told me the gun was not functional when he did the original engraving - the seller I bought it from had wanted it for a show piece and knew it was broken. Five Hundred dollars ($500) later I have the gun I thought I was originally buying. Guns America would not do anything about the transaction. I even pointed out that the guy had taken the gun off their web site and had not listed it as sold through them - so he essentially ripped them off for their commission.
Lesson Learned: On high dollar guns have them sent to a reputable party for inspection. Once you get the go-ahead, complete the transaction. Might cost you an additional fifty dollars ($50) for the inspection, but if the seller is not willing to do that - you have a big red flag.
The bottom line in my case, I was out an additional five hundred dollars ($500). The seller lives 4 states away and it would cost me more in hotel bills, lawyer and court fees to pursue it. Feedback is good - but caution is better.
I have bought and sold a number of firearms on the internet and most have been good. Ninety-Nine (99%) of these transactions have been black powder and did not require an FFL. My one bad transaction was off of Guns America. A guy advertised an antique single action S&W as mint. It had been engraved, had engraved ivory grips, and was silver plated. Came with a fitted case and an original box of 1880s ammo and an ivory tipped cleaning rod. When I received the gun, the action was binding and I immediately sent sent it to a reputable gunsmith who deals in antique firearms. The threaded sleeve that is pressed into the cylinder was broken. I contacted seller and the jerk accused me of breaking the gun. The gunsmith was able to fit another cylinder to the gun - but this meant it would also have to be engraved and plated. I was able to contact the engraver and get this done. He also told me the gun was not functional when he did the original engraving - the seller I bought it from had wanted it for a show piece and knew it was broken. Five Hundred dollars ($500) later I have the gun I thought I was originally buying. Guns America would not do anything about the transaction. I even pointed out that the guy had taken the gun off their web site and had not listed it as sold through them - so he essentially ripped them off for their commission.
Lesson Learned: On high dollar guns have them sent to a reputable party for inspection. Once you get the go-ahead, complete the transaction. Might cost you an additional fifty dollars ($50) for the inspection, but if the seller is not willing to do that - you have a big red flag.
The bottom line in my case, I was out an additional five hundred dollars ($500). The seller lives 4 states away and it would cost me more in hotel bills, lawyer and court fees to pursue it. Feedback is good - but caution is better.