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Hondo 60

Hondo 60

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Nothing for sale, but have a question.

Is it legal for a non-FFL holder to ship a handgun directly to a FFL holder?

I've heard two opinions, one said yes, one said no.
If yes, where exactly can I find it in print.

Thanks!

Mods - if I've posted in the wrong area, please move & PM me so I know where it is.

Thanks.
 
Finding an FFL is not all that difficult: a gun auction Site usually has 'find and FFL ' category...


And shipping a handgun to an FFL does not have go over nite thus incurring horrendous charges...:what: :what: :what:


Ya just gotta have better info...:evil::evil::evil:
 
Another wanting to know - as the folks at UPS and Fedex will not accept handguns for shipment without going overnight and unless you have a FFL, you can't use USPS
 
fiddletown said:
And exactly what might that "better info" be?
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Mike Sr. is probably referring to the fact that since the handgun is going to an FFL, there is no requirement in law to tell the shipper what is in the package. Only company policy requires notification. Don't tell the shipper what is in the package, send it via ground, and only UPS policy is violated, no law is violated.
 
I would never advise anyone to break a company policy: what happens if a package is lost...?

This info I refer to is published and is verifiable on the net and has been around quite along time!

CLUE: Go ask Larry Kelly!
 
squarles67: thank you!

I sent a handgun to an FFL holder & he's freaking out!


By the way, you do legally have to tell the shipper what's in the package.
The answer is from the link in post #7

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm
by common or contract carrier?

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm
by a common or contract carrier to a
resident of his or her own State or to
a licensee in any State. A common or
contract carrier must be used to ship
a handgun. In addition, Federal law
requires that the carrier be notified
that the shipment contains a firearm
and prohibits common or contract
carriers from requiring or causing any
label to be placed on any package
indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3),
922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and
478.30]
 
NavyLCDR said:
Mike Sr. is probably referring to the fact that since the handgun is going to an FFL, there is no requirement in law to tell the shipper what is in the package. Only company policy requires notification. Don't tell the shipper what is in the package, send it via ground, and only UPS policy is violated, no law is violated.
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If that's it, it's true that no crime has been committed, but that doesn't mean that the failure to inform the carrier, UPS or FedEx, of the nature of the package is legally innocuous.

The published tariffs of both UPS and FedEx require that a shipper shipping a handgun inform the carrier and ship the handgun overnight. The tariff is part of the contract of carriage; so by not complying with the tariff, the shipper has breached his contract with the carrier.

Okay, so the shipper won't be going to jail. But if the package is damaged or lost, and since the shipper breached his contract with the carrier (whether UPS or FedEx), the carrier will have solid grounds upon which to deny any claim.

So if you send a handgun without telling the carrier, and send it ground, if it's damaged or lost, the carrier is free to tell to pound sand.

Mike Sr. said:
...This info I refer to is published and is verifiable on the net and has been around quite along time!

CLUE: Go ask Larry Kelly!
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In other words, you're just spouting nonsense. It's your statement. It's up to you to support it.
 
Hondo, what you posted is from the BATFE FAQ not the actual law. Notification that a package contains a firearm is not required by law if it is being shipped to an FFL.

§ 478.31 Delivery by common or contract carrier.
(a) No person shall knowingly deliver or cause to be delivered to any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce to any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, any package or other container in which there is any firearm or ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or ammunition is being transported or shipped: Provided, That any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm or ammunition being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce may deliver said firearm or ammunition into the custody of the pilot, captain, conductor or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of that trip without violating any provision of this part.
 
""In other words, you're just spouting nonsense. It's your statement. It's up to you to support it. ""


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Nope.... I gave you a clue now do your home work...like I did to find this information and when I found it I laffed so hard I had tears...!

That clue is 'spot on' !!!
 
Mike Sr. said:
Nope.... I gave you a clue now do your home work...like I did to find this information and when I found it I laffed so hard I had tears...!
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Nope. it's not my homework to do. If you can't simply, clearly and directly explain yourself, clearly you have nothing worthwhile to offer.
 
I'm not going to answer your question. SEARCH!!!:neener::evil::D:)

:confused::confused::banghead::rolleyes::mad::scrutiny::confused::confused:

ETA: I'm JOKING about those who have answers but post without giving useful information. I would answer the question if I was better informed.;)
 
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