CA man does five years for possessing ten tracers

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You gotta obey the law of the land.
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Good thing Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and the rest of the civil rights movements folks bought into the SUBMIT TO YOUR RULERS attitude :rolleyes:

Maybe I could petition Congress to make all blonde women community property of all American males, too. If they pass it into law, it's all good, right?
 
I feel no sorrow for folks who choose to live in a state with openly unfriendly gun laws and who violate those gun laws and are dumb enough to get caught.
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How about people who have their house tossed because the local government sees them as fair game and political enemies and tells the cops to search it until they find something illegal?

And how about, instead of merely confiscating the tracers, they send the man to jail for 10 years and bulldoze the house?

Does this seem fair? Does this seem proportional? How many illicit things are you unknowingly in posession of? Ever unknowingly violate an EPA regulation?

The truth is that, EVEN DOING NOTHING WRONG, you can still be arrested and thrown in jail for an entire decade and have your house torn down if the local politicos decide they dont like you (this isnt just true of CA). We have too many ????ing laws, too few trials by jury and too few people that fight back when wronged.
 
Moral of the Story: Don't stray too far outside the norm. You ARE being watched. You can be crazy as a bedbug, but if you act normal, they'll leave you alone.
 
Moral of the Story: Don't stray too far outside the norm. You ARE being watched. You can be crazy as a bedbug, but if you act normal, they'll leave you alone.
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Until the definintion or normal shifts when you aren't looking.
 
You know, I don't feel particularly bad for these folks. Contrary to the thread's title, it wasn't so much 5 years for possessing 10 tracers but 5 years for being in violation of the law. It just so happens that 10 tracers was how he was in violation of the law.

You gotta obey the law of the land. If you don't, then you need to be bright enough or clever enough to not get caught being in violation. I feel no sorrow for folks who choose to live in a state with openly unfriendly gun laws and who violate those gun laws and are dumb enough to get caught.
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Yea!! And remember that Rosa Parks lady? What a jerk! I can't believe the nerve of her, not giving up her bus seat to a white man. Talk about not respecting the Law of the Land! If I were the judge I would have given her 5 years of hard labor. That would have certainly sent a message to anyone with the audacity to blatantly thumb their nose at the Law of the Land... :rolleyes:
 
Pesky American colonials. Violating The Law. Shoot 'em, burn their houses, jail them without cause, tax them into oblivion. That will show them that they can't violate The Law.

Love,

King George.
 
Nice pounding!

Laws about tracers, noise-reducing devices, threaded barrels, and the like are "feel good" laws that really serve no purpose. I agree that there are so many laws on the books that anyone could violate one at any moment. The problem with prior restraint laws is that no intent to harm/intent is shown.
 
You gotta obey the law of the land. If you don't, then you need to be bright enough or clever enough to not get caught being in violation. I feel no sorrow for folks who choose to live in a state with openly unfriendly gun laws and who violate those gun laws and are dumb enough to get caught.
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Rather than add my voice to the cacophony - :banghead: YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, DO YOU?????
 
Good thing I left the PRK when I did.

All those AK's and AR's and so forth. Would've made the 10 tracers look pale in comparison. :fire:
 
So...

Feds raid a residence under a shaky premise that they might be connected to the Oklahoma bombings. They realized that they screwed up, but not wanting to look stupid and come up empty handed, they burnt them on ten sparklers that shoot from a rifle.

Am I missing anything?
 
Feds raid a residence under a shaky premise that they might be connected to the Oklahoma bombings. They realized that they screwed up, but not wanting to look stupid and come up empty handed, they burnt them on ten sparklers that shoot from a rifle.

Am I missing anything?
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That no one just considered dropping the matter?

I mean, seriously. How much money was wasted on this?
 
Say, Travis, did you read G.G. Liddy's autobiography?

I think it really changed his head, going from government person, to governed person, when they locked him up. I can't lay hands on the book at the moment, but I think he quotes one of his fellow prisoners on this subject, that is, the arbitrary nastiness superceding the rule of law, to wit:

"When they wantcha, they gotcha."

(That's as close as I can get, just from memory. I may well be inaccurate, there.)
 
I respect the LEO community

But there are abuses. Probable cause has been reduced to anything the officer makes up. There has been a couple of recent police shootings where the Shot perp, Was claimed to have Driven at them in a threatening way.
I guess that explains why the entrance and exit wounds are coming from behind.
There was a guy here 2 cops pulled him over cause he was a white guy in a black neiborhood. Both had guns drawn.

One is yelling "PUT YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM!"
the other is yelliing "GET OUT OF THE CAR!"
Every time the guy reached for the door
the other is yelling "PUT YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM!"
then the first would yell "GET OUT OF THE CAR!"

get the picture?

guy couldnt do nothing, They pulled him out of the car and beat the hell out of him. Charged him with obstructing and resisting.

They didnt find anything reason for being pulled over defective lamp.
 
Abuses

All this in a county where the former sheriff (TIDWELL) steals a couple hundred confiscated firearms and gets away with a slap on the wrist. Why didn't the ATF grill him? Justice for me, none for you crap. :fire:
 
You gotta obey the law of the land. If you don't, then you need to be bright enough or clever enough to not get caught being in violation.
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OK Double Naught, which of those two options have you chosen? I'll bet that nobody in this country who drives a car can obey ALL the laws of the land. How many times have you heard LEOs on THR assert that they can always find a reason to pull somebody over if the car doesn't look right?
 
You know, I don't feel particularly bad for these folks. Contrary to the thread's title, it wasn't so much 5 years for possessing 10 tracers but 5 years for being in violation of the law. It just so happens that 10 tracers was how he was in violation of the law.

Granted, I think the law is stupid. I think a lot of laws are stupid. I think some of the laws in my state are stupid, but I try not to violate them as I know there are very real consequences and I try hard not to be in violation of felony laws.

You gotta obey the law of the land. If you don't, then you need to be bright enough or clever enough to not get caught being in violation. I feel no sorrow for folks who choose to live in a state with openly unfriendly gun laws and who violate those gun laws and are dumb enough to get caught.
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DO YOU OWN A GUN WITH A '10 ROUND' MAGAZINE PURCHASED AFTER 1/1/2000? IF YOU DO, YOU CAN ALMOST CERTINLY STICK 11 ROUNDS IN THERE IF YOU CRAM REALLY HARD, AND YOU SIR, ARE A FELON UNDER CA LAW!

I'm a felon under that law, have glock mags I can stick 11 rounds into if I try hard. We haven't been actively prosecuted, YET.

(Personal nonsense and "offensive to Grammaw" stuff removed by Art)
 
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Ah, why_me,

Try this meme on for fit:

Cop=Bully.

I'm being nice here. I don't want to get athwartships with Oleg and his mods by saying what I REALLY think.
 
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