California adopts nation's broadest gun seizure law:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-expands-gun-seizure-law
California adopts nation's broadest gun seizure law
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California adopts nation's broadest gun seizure law:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-expands-gun-seizure-law
Deanimator
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Everybody falsely accused, and especially those maliciously accused need to DESTROY their accusers (and enablers of those accusers) in civil court. They should literally be unable to feed themselves and their families.
shuvelrider
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Tell us how you really feel Deanimator,
. This is just more of the "big brother control from the Politburo", another fear tactic to keep the masses in step. It truly is amazing how these people are so afraid of a free society.
. This is just more of the "big brother control from the Politburo", another fear tactic to keep the masses in step. It truly is amazing how these people are so afraid of a free society.cjwils
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Glad to see the ACLU speaking up. I wonder if they would help defend someone who lost their guns under this broad red flag law.
Speedo66
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Interesting to see the ACLU and the NRA with a common cause. Glad the ACLU is on our side, not many typically liberal organizations are, have to remember to send them a donation.
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WheelGunMan
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All the more reason to vacate California, cut off any and all financial strings and allow them to secede from the union. Then they can become the third world country they're trying so hard to be.
Unless we are actually going to talk about the new law I'm just going to close this.
Deanimator
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I'm interested in ways to monkey wrench it.
I have zero interest in the non-shooting sports and don't much care for sports references, but I'm a firm believer in the "brush back".
If you want to fight this kind of thing, you need to make people dread using it for malicious purposes. Every time they do, they need to get hammered mercilessly both in civil court and in the court of public opinion. Nothing lawful should be off the table, including the sort of public opprobrium directed against Trump administration officials. Groups like the NRA and the Alliance Defending Freedom need to plan NOW for how to strike back against the perpetrators in multiple ways.
You make a false claim against somebody and your life should be OVER.
Tinman357
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No due process. Burden of proof on the accused. What could possibly go wrong. Unconstitutional from the first word to the last. This law is nothing but a weapon to be used by small minded, back stabbing trash.
Good Ol' Boy
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Your link doesn't work for me and the provided print is entirely too small for me.
I assume it's nothing good.
I assume it's nothing good.
Shanghai McCoy
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It is encouraging that this has gotten the attention of the ACLU. I have often wished that the ACLU would defend the 2nd Amendment as enthusiastically as they defend the 1st .
marsofold
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These men are traitors against the 2nd amendment and the people. Anyone siding with them is not our countryman.
Good Ol' Boy
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Obturation
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I worry about this as i have a mother who hates guns (but she has one). She thinks i'm nuts for enjoying the shooting sports and believing in the 2nd amendnent, i live in illinois which is not a gun friendly state and i really could see her reporting me or anyone else as a danger just because she feels like it. I hope SCOTUS has a ruling on this before innocent gun owners everywhere are put in a bad situation.
marsofold
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The time may have come where we need to disown all people who we think just might red flag us over their own personal opinions.
Deanimator
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Then they'll try to get you killed by the cops for that.
Deanimator
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And as an addendum, misfeasance or malfeasance on the part of police should be subject to strict liability.
If the cops go to the wrong house for ANY reason they should be personally liable for treble damages.
I can easily see the NYPD seizing somebody's collection of Borchardts on a transparently false accusation and putting evidence numbers on them with an engraving pen.
Not "fair"? Neither is kicking in the wrong door and possibly killing innocent people, ESPECIALLY potentially on the mere say so of a pathologically lying sociopath.
If the cops go to the wrong house for ANY reason they should be personally liable for treble damages.
I can easily see the NYPD seizing somebody's collection of Borchardts on a transparently false accusation and putting evidence numbers on them with an engraving pen.
Not "fair"? Neither is kicking in the wrong door and possibly killing innocent people, ESPECIALLY potentially on the mere say so of a pathologically lying sociopath.
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Deanimator
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That's why I steadfastly refused to give my mother a power of attorney when I was in the Army. I could just see myself getting back from an overseas deployment and finding out I was no longer a gun owner.
“Calling @Frank Ettin for enlightenment.”
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Unfortunately you shouldn’t have to live in fear of who you speak with, in regards to such a quintessential part of being an American
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