California: Banning lead and requiring microstamping since 2007

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Today Arnold Swarchenegger (Republican) signed into law bills that will ban lead ammunition in areas comprising of 22 counties in California as will as requiring all semiauto handguns to microstamp each cartridge that they gun fires with a serial number assigned that fire arm.

Rock on the rest of free America. Heed this as a warning to not vote along party lines, but to vote for each individual persons based on their personal views.

You can read about it here.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/
 
I hate living here. All this will do is drive up the cost of new pistols. DO they use their heads at all? The cops pick up an empty case found at the crime scene. They trace it back to...(surprise) a stolen handgun!!! CRIMINALS DON'T BUY FIREARMS THROUGH LEGAL SOURCES!!!! DUH!!!!
 
Four easy ways for criminals to get around the California Microstamping bill:

1). Use a stolen gun
2) Use a stolen gun made before microstamping was inacted
3) pick up your brass
4) Use a revolver.



Honestly, these are no brainers, even for criminals. This bill isn't going to help at all, but it will cost the state millions of dollars, and will probably cause several firearm manufacturers to suspend sales to CA LEO's. I hope they have fun with that.
 
Four easy ways to get around the California Microstamping bill:

1). Use a stolen gun
2) Use a stolen gun made before microstamping was inacted
3) pick up your brass
4) Use a revolver.
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5. Move from CA ;)


I have lived in CA for over 30 years, but this is likely the last straw. At the first opportunity, I'm outta here. Hopefully before 2009....
 
Regolith said:
will probably cause several firearm manufacturers to suspend sales to CA LEO's. I hope they have fun with that.
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we should prolly hope that it will cause most or all to suspend sales. that would be the biggest blow to this legislation, and the best chance for reversal.
 
5. Move from CA


I have lived in CA for over 30 years, but this is likely the last straw. At the first opportunity, I'm outta here. Hopefully before 2009....
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I was speaking of ways criminals will use to get around it. But yes, if your a non criminal, moving out might not be a bad idea.
 
While I am adamantly opposed to the ammo ban for a number of reasons, it's not true that it bans lead ammo.

It "requires non-lead ammunition", for big game and coyote hunting with rifles and pistols, in the area in question.

Heed this as a warning to not vote along party lines, but to vote for each individual persons based on their personal views.
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Well, I voted for Arnold because of his vetoes in his first term, and because his opponent was staunchly anti-gun. So did other shooters.

So your admonition, while it sounds good, has no connection to reality, TuffPaws.

Arnold has become a barking moonbat on many issues lately. I won't vote for him again, regardless. Party has nothing to do with it, though.
 
1). Use a stolen gun
2) Use a stolen gun made before microstamping was inacted
3) pick up your brass
4) Use a revolver.
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Or just grind off the raised letters/numbers that stamp the mark in...this is just a dumb law, pretty easy for a criminal to get around.
 
wow, even though arnold is a only a nominal republican i never thought he would sign the microstamping bill :(
it will effect so many more people than the .50 ban (which was a much "safer" (pun intended) bill to sign due to affecting relativly few people)
 
He had nothing to lose. He terms out in 10. Sad day for responsible
gun owners and mfg's. Now I wonder who will be the first to come
up with blank pins for these new brady sidearms ?
 
i already feel sorry for the poor sob who has his microstamped brass picked up by a gangbanger @ the local shooting range who then drops it @ a crime scene (or purchases once fired brass)...

I suppose this is a good reason to start picking up all of one's brass whether you reload it or not. :(
 
While it will be easy for criminals to defeat this stamping, you can bet that anybody caught defeating this will also become a criminal.

I also suspect that in not too many years all "unsafe" pistols bought before the ban will be banned and owners required to turn them in.
 
More BS down the pipe as usual. We'll have to wait and see what happens, can't wait to see.

Most Kalifornians don't even know what's happening to there State in my opinion. Hope I'm not too damn old when the Revolution comes.
 
Can we start digging a trench to separate California yet?
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Tectonic activity is not working quickly enough.

I actually find this news quite disturbing and depressing. I'm wondering if I shouldn't get the next couple pistols I'm thinking about early, in case the industry decides to just start stamping all firing pins regardless of final sale location...
 
You guys are missing the point pretty big here. It's not about whether or not criminals can get around this law. This has nothing to do with law enforcement.

What this is intended to do is make it so hard or so expensive for gun manufacturers to do business in CA that they withdraw from the market.

Maybe it will work maybe it won't. There will be many manufacturers that cannot afford to totally retool their factories for this, so they will just stop selling their product in CA.

That my friends is a 100% handgun BAN if carried to it's extreme.
 
Maybe it will work maybe it won't. There will be many manufacturers that cannot afford to totally retool their factories for this, so they will just stop selling their product in CA.
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Lets make sure the rest of us boycott any gun manufacturer that DOES retool their factories ... if enough of them comply with this there will be nothing to stop them from spreading this crap coast to coast.


That and there has to be a way to kick Arnie out of the GOP.
 
This is not stupid,this is not about catching criminals,it's part of a plan.I think gbran has a good foresight on this.Look ahead 5-7 years and think about it.Not just pistols but any firearm.Even if the company gives free "upgrades"to the older firearm to make it legal,it will be in some database somewhere.Criminals want bother but that want matter.That's not the objective.
 
It stamps the primer though, right? So once fired would just have to be de-primed before selling?

I swore from the moment I was married that I would never set foot in the PRK until after my children were grown because of their draconian foster care system, which claims jurisdiction over children *potentially* conceived in the Republik should the parents be accused of failing to live up to their parenting standards.

Now I have a reason to never go there, even once my kid(s) hit the age of majority.

Hope the manufacturers don't knuckle under. I don't want to pay for development and manufacturing costs. I live in a moderately free state at least...
 
While I am adamantly opposed to the ammo ban for a number of reasons, it's not true that it bans lead ammo.

It "requires non-lead ammunition", for big game and coyote hunting with rifles and pistols, in the area in question.

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Heed this as a warning to not vote along party lines, but to vote for each individual persons based on their personal views.
Well, I voted for Arnold because of his vetoes in his first term, and because his opponent was staunchly anti-gun. So did other shooters.

So your admonition, while it sounds good, has no connection to reality, TuffPaws.

Arnold has become a barking moonbat on many issues lately. I won't vote for him again, regardless. Party has nothing to do with it, though.
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You're play the fool to think that Arnold was anything but what he turned out to be. You should have actually looked at the issues and voted for McClintock instead of the stupid a55 movie star. He was anti-gun before he was in office even though you would be hard pressed to find a movie of his that he was not holding a gun in.

Again, voting party lines did this. Vote for the person, not the party.
 
Looks like its full speed ahead with the disarming of the citizens. This is making me sick, literally. I don't live in Kali, but this crap will likely spread. This isn't just about gun control in one commie state.
 
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