Sportcat
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If people pass "the test" and receive the certificate, then who will the anti's sue when there is a shooting?
California: "You take the test: Sample questions for handgun safety certificate"
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Airwolf
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Easy. You have to pass a "safe handling" test at the time of purchase. Both the instructor and purchaser must sign an affidavit that the test was passed satisfactorily.
Can anyone guess who'll be named in a lawsuit? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Can anyone guess who'll be named in a lawsuit? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
anchored
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What's wrong with discriminating against stupid people? I know quite a few law-abiding, American citizens whom I would not want to be anywhere near a gun. It's not like the only people they can accidentally shoot are themselves. Ya gotta take a test to drive a car, fly a plane, perform surgery, wire a house . . . It's a pretty accepted practice to deny stupid people the same privileges others have. I realize gun ownership is a right, not a privilege, but I also think rights may be mutable depending on ability to exercise the right responsibly - which is why felons, mentally ill, and spouse abusers can legally lose theirs.
Shalako
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So who decides who's life is worth defending? You want the government to take that job too? Felons made a choice and they pay for it. People make a choice that they need to drive a car. Someone that ranks a little lower on the bell curve gets the choice made for him because some folks are high and mighty enough to not to trust him. I guarantee you, if it was up to folks like Schumer, et al., NONE of us would be trusted.
So who decides? You?
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So who decides? You?
-Shalako
GregoryTech
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Do you support the idea that one must take a test to exercise their right to free speach? Are some people too stupid to be free from illegal search and seizure?
I'll repeat, with just 776 accidental gun deaths in 2000, per the CDC, compared to 12 thousand accidental poisoning deaths, why aren't we trying to determine that stupid people don't buy cleaning supplies?
ctdonath
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What's wrong with it is that it's the stupid people who get to make that decision - and they think YOU are the stupid one.
T.Stahl
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I wonder how many dealers will pin a paper with the answers to the questions to the wall behind the counter? 
Ryder
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Sorry to bring up this old thread
Not like I haven't done it before though, eh? Anyway I just discovered the thread and would like to comment
A couple of guns back Michigan started doing this during the registration procedure (up to 10 days after the purchase). I was informed that you had to correctly answer 6 of the 10 questions to pass. IF you failed
then they would inform you which ones you missed and what the correct answer should have been. You would then be allowed to re-take the test. You could re-take the test as often as required until it was passed. I suppose if you had to come back the next day you would be walking out with your property. Dunno for sure, I didn't ask about that.
It's just an educational tool. They were not trying to weed people out and the sheet is tossed in the trash afterwards.
BTW. I missed a question on mine. My answer was more safe than common practice. A real tricky question. I got 100% with the next gun purchase. Same sheet.
Not like I haven't done it before though, eh?
Anyway I just discovered the thread and would like to commentA couple of guns back Michigan started doing this during the registration procedure (up to 10 days after the purchase). I was informed that you had to correctly answer 6 of the 10 questions to pass. IF you failed
then they would inform you which ones you missed and what the correct answer should have been. You would then be allowed to re-take the test. You could re-take the test as often as required until it was passed. I suppose if you had to come back the next day you would be walking out with your property. Dunno for sure, I didn't ask about that. It's just an educational tool. They were not trying to weed people out and the sheet is tossed in the trash afterwards.
BTW. I missed a question on mine. My answer was more safe than common practice. A real tricky question. I got 100% with the next gun purchase. Same sheet.
The shooter, the gunstore, the distributor, the manufacturer, and local and state governments. What, you thought that a piece of paper certifying that the licensee has a <50% chance of being braindead would have any effect on lawsuits?
I lived most of my life there. This I fought with numerous letters. I passed anyway as will any anti-gun measure in the PRK as long as Jack Scott is in the Senate and Shelley and Sheila Kuehl (from Dobie Gillis fame) are in the Assembly and they have a Democrat Governor to sign all the bills. If the Governorship whould have changed to Simon, all this BS would have stopped.
Oh well, he won in 95 percent of the counties but the libs are packed tightly togther in the Bay Area and in LA and have a larger population. If only Simon could walk and talk at the same time he would have won.
This test is not really anything more than the BFSC we had before except you have to renew every 5 years. Also, watch Jack Scott try to register all your guns bought before this abomination passed before it's over. His kid got shot with a shotgun by a stupid friend and now he has a vendetta against handguns. Makes sense to me?
Anyway, what happens to you when you get too old or sick to renew this POS HSC? Do you have to turn in your guns to the Gestapo?
Oh well, he won in 95 percent of the counties but the libs are packed tightly togther in the Bay Area and in LA and have a larger population. If only Simon could walk and talk at the same time he would have won.
This test is not really anything more than the BFSC we had before except you have to renew every 5 years. Also, watch Jack Scott try to register all your guns bought before this abomination passed before it's over. His kid got shot with a shotgun by a stupid friend and now he has a vendetta against handguns. Makes sense to me?
Anyway, what happens to you when you get too old or sick to renew this POS HSC? Do you have to turn in your guns to the Gestapo?
Shalako
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Also, you need the HSC to borrow a handgun. I will not get the HSC. Ever. Therefore I will never be able to shoot my girlfriend's model 60 ever again without her present, even though it is stored in my gun cabinet, I clean it, buy holsters for it, caress it, love it, .... ur, uh, whatever. No more taking it with me on hikes in the woods or camping trips. I'm not qualified anymore. Yes, I can't ever borrow that Model 60 ever again because I will not be on the special list that notifies everyone with a simple swipe of my driver's license that I am a Handgun Permit Owner and that they should be wary of me. No thanks. I like my freedoms as they are, thank you.
-Shalako
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TexasVet
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3 The safety on a semiautomatic pistol is not foolproof. True or False?
True... Especially if it's a Glock. "They put the safety on the WHAT??!!"
True... Especially if it's a Glock. "They put the safety on the WHAT??!!"
POGO, thanks for your reply,
At some point many of will find ourselves in position where it is probably imprudent to own a gun. My Grandparents died of strokes eventually after they had several smaller ones that impaired them severly. Then the BIG one came that did them in. There was a point in their downward spiral that I don't think they should have owned guns anymore. In my case they didn't but I have to wonder for myself seeing that this may be the same way I bite the big one eventually. Best pass them to my sons before something like that happens.
I really don't trust Jack Scott. What a total SOB. He represents the are I know as my hometown. Pasadena, CA.
I think that SOB will keep trying to add things to this HSC law to the point where you one has to forefeit their guns to the State if you find yourself in such a position.
Glad I'm out of there for now. However, I miss the West quite alot having lived there for 45 years. I may return someday.
Skunkabilly,
While there are few square miles that have precipitated much of the anti-gun sentiment in CA, (South Central, Oakland), I have to look at what has happened since the DemcRATS gained 100% control over the Legislature and Governorship. Most of my life, we had Republican Governors that stopped alot of the anti-gun nonsense. Now that Red Davis got elected, there is no stopping the socialist agenda. Sure, California was always a bit more restrictive with the 10 day wait and all, but ever since Davis came in, he has not seen a gun control bill he didn't like. I fear that now he is lame duck Gpovernor that has blown his national asipriations due to the energy debacle, you will see even more restrictive anti-gun measures. That's all Jack Scott, Kevin Shelly and a few others think about.
I've been gone a little over a year now but it's my home state and it still concerns me. I still have family there and one day might return.
Russ
At some point many of will find ourselves in position where it is probably imprudent to own a gun. My Grandparents died of strokes eventually after they had several smaller ones that impaired them severly. Then the BIG one came that did them in. There was a point in their downward spiral that I don't think they should have owned guns anymore. In my case they didn't but I have to wonder for myself seeing that this may be the same way I bite the big one eventually. Best pass them to my sons before something like that happens.
I really don't trust Jack Scott. What a total SOB. He represents the are I know as my hometown. Pasadena, CA.
I think that SOB will keep trying to add things to this HSC law to the point where you one has to forefeit their guns to the State if you find yourself in such a position.
Glad I'm out of there for now. However, I miss the West quite alot having lived there for 45 years. I may return someday.
Skunkabilly,
While there are few square miles that have precipitated much of the anti-gun sentiment in CA, (South Central, Oakland), I have to look at what has happened since the DemcRATS gained 100% control over the Legislature and Governorship. Most of my life, we had Republican Governors that stopped alot of the anti-gun nonsense. Now that Red Davis got elected, there is no stopping the socialist agenda. Sure, California was always a bit more restrictive with the 10 day wait and all, but ever since Davis came in, he has not seen a gun control bill he didn't like. I fear that now he is lame duck Gpovernor that has blown his national asipriations due to the energy debacle, you will see even more restrictive anti-gun measures. That's all Jack Scott, Kevin Shelly and a few others think about.
I've been gone a little over a year now but it's my home state and it still concerns me. I still have family there and one day might return.
Russ
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