Called Remington Ammo Plant in Lonoke AR today for Update

[Mr. Zorg]

I updated my pist, too much multitasking on my part ATM

Yes, but neither Vista Outdoors nor Alliant Powder nor ATK own the Lake City Munitions plant.

Here's what I posted for clarity.



Same for Radford VA Munitions plant.

https://www.baesystems.com/en-us/product/radford-army-ammunition-plant

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radford_Army_Ammunition_Plant

No ownership interest of that Munitions plant by Vista Outdoors, and it's operated by BAE Systems.

Here's a portion of the Wikipedia article. Alliant is listed as one of the enants at that facility.

"RFAAP is home to several tenants of similar industry, including: [5]

• New River Energetics – Commercial Propellants
• Alliant Techsystems – Medium Caliber LAP"

I still don't see any Vista Outdoors munitions plant at Radford VA nor any ownership interest in a munitions plant in Radford VA but I'm open to reviewing links that show different information.

That confuses me WRT Vista Outdoors munitions plants like I posted earlier in this thread. Where?

 

[ColtPythonElite]

Alliant is part of Vista. This is the back of Alliants latest reloading guide:

 

[Mr. Zorg]

Alliant is part of Vista:

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Alliant powder is produced in Radford, Virginia:

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And Vista Outdoors, including Alliant, has zero ownership interest in the munitions plant in Bradford VA, and also is not the operator of the munitions plant at Bradford VA and your latest post, like all yours in this thrad,, doesn't ost doesn't show that's changed.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

What exactly are we debating? That Alliant isnt part of Vista or Alliant powder isnt made in Radford or both?....lol

 

[Mr. Zorg]

I'm not debating anything.

Vista Outdoors does not have nor operate a munitions plant at Radford Va.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radford_Army_Ammunition_Plant

Alliant powders is a tenant at a munitions plant at Radford VA.

 

[.455_Hunter]

Back on topic...

I have seen quite a bit of new Remington ammo on the shelves in a variety of calibers over the past 8 weeks or so- definitely not leftover stock from pre-bankrupcy.

 

[mcb]

Back on topic...

I have seen quite a bit of new Remington ammo on the shelves in a variety of calibers over the past 8 weeks or so- definitely not leftover stock from pre-bankrupcy.

The Lonoke plants (2) were never fully down. Not only did Vista buy Remington's two ammunition plants, and the Remington Trade mark and copy right. They had done their research and planned well for the transition and before the action was complete had already engaged a bit over 200 employees that worked at the Lonoke plants and named them specifically in their bid as being guaranteed employment with the new Vista owned ammunition plants. Vista was also on top of their game with the manufacturing FFL and had that very shortly after the transaction was completed (they had clearly started that paperwork early). The biggest hurdle they had to get over was that Lonoke's supply chains were in tatters, because of the 2018 bankruptcy and subsequently bad management by Remington, few vendors were still willing to selling material to Lonoke, and most were demanding cash up front, cash Remington rarely had. No doubt when Vista came on board with a healthy line of credit they were able to get raw materials flowing more consistently into the plant a problem that plague Lonoke since the 2018 bankruptcy.

 

[lightman]

I called my buddy that works at the Lonoke plant this morning and ask him a few questions. They manufacture their brass, primers and bullets but not their powder. He said they were running full blast when they could. It seems that they are having trouble getting raw material. Things like partial orders, delayed orders, ect.

I did not think to ask him about the transition. I know that their parking lot was nearly vacant during and around Christmas but I don't know the reason. He did say that they are hiring and eventually will add 300 or so more jobs.

A google search pulls up the article that was in the Arkansas Democrat Newspaper and it says that Vista Outdoors bought the Remington Ammunition part of Remington Arms. I think it said there were 14 other plants with one being in Puerto Rico. It mentioned that there were about 400 employees in Lonoke with plans to bring back 300 that were furlowed. The article did say that they were down to 10% of their production during the transition.

 

[dogtown tom]

The Lonoke Plant is in the county that I live in....

I haven't been to England in about 30 years. Had a college buddy that grew up there.
We would stop in Scott at Cothams's for a Hubcap burger. I heard it burned down a few years ago.
<-----North Little Rock aka Dog Town.

 

[hso]

The key is primers. You can't make ammo without primers and unless primer production increases there won't be enough components to manufacture ammunition.

 

[hso]

Yes, but neither Vista Outdoors nor Alliant Powder nor ATK own the Lake City Munitions plant.

Here's what I posted for clarity.



Same for Radford VA Munitions plant.

https://www.baesystems.com/en-us/product/radford-army-ammunition-plant

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radford_Army_Ammunition_Plant

No ownership interest of that Munitions plant by Vista Outdoors, and it's operated by BAE Systems.

Government Owned/Corporate Operated military munitions plants don't factor into civilian shortages to any significant level. Excess or out of spec ammunition is what gets sold to the public from those plants.

 

[George P]

The key is primers. You can't make ammo without primers and unless primer production increases there won't be enough components to manufacture ammunition.

Primer makers are running 24/7; most of which is going to ammo makers of all types; we as reloaders, are far down on the priority list

 

[Mr. Zorg]

Government Owned/Corporate Operated military munitions plants don't factor into civilian shortages to any significant level. Excess or out of spec ammunition is what gets sold to the public from those plants.

Agreed - and the context of my post you copied into yours was WRT none of the Vista Outdoors munitions plants manufacture smokeless powders.

Lake City and Radford VA are not and have not been operated by Vista Outdoors. Alliant powder s a tenant at Radford VA but has no ownership interest and is not the operator. ATK which formerly included what was Vista Outdoors before Vista Outdoors was spun off in 2015 was the operator and that portion, seperate from Vista Outdoors since the genesis of Vista Outdoors, has subsequently been purchased by Northrop Grumman.

Vista Outdoors' ammunition manufacturing facilities are now Remington at Lonoke AR, Speer at Lewiston ID, and Federal at Anoka MN.

 

[George P]

About Us
Alliant Powder continues a long and proud tradition of producing America's best and most popular smokeless powders.

Our Mission: Premium Performance, Consistent Quality
Every container of Alliant smokeless powder is backed by a century of manufacturing experience and the most exacting quality control procedures in the industry. We check and control chemical composition, the shape and size of powder grains, even the propellants' density and porosity. We send samples of every batch to our ballistics lab, testing for burning speed, among other things. Then, after blending batches together for exactly the right ballistic characterisitics, we use our advanced computerized equipment to test again.

The result: a line of products known and respected for consistent quality and performance — not only in the lab, but especially on the firing line. After all, one of the reasons you're a reloader is so you'll know exactly what to expect every time you pull the trigger. With Alliant powders you will. Not only shell after shell, but also year after year.

Our History
Alliant's origins as a gunpowder manufacturer can be traced back more than 125 years to the DuPont Company, whose leadership position in the explosives industry is legendary. DuPont's divestiture in 1912 created the Hercules Power Company as an independent entity, and eventually resulted in Alliant becoming America's premier gunpowder manufacturer.

The long, proud history of Alliant Powder began in 1872 as Laflin & Rand, later to become Hercules Powder Company — the most respected name in the reloading industry.

Our Canisters
We haven't changed them in 100 years...except to make them better.






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Vista Outdoor Inc.
Vista Outdoor is a leading provider of innovative outdoor products that enable our customers to achieve rugged independence in the activity of their choice. Vista Outdoor operates in two primary business segments: Shooting Sports and Outdoor Products. Our portfolio includes well-respected brands designed to bring the world outside.

 

[Pat Riot]

So, the Lonoke plant is back up and running. Good news!

 

[Jim Watson]

Mr Zorg, you are telling us what is not, tell us what is.
If American* Alliant powders are not made under their "tenant" arrangement at Radford, then where?

*Alliant's slow burning Reloder (yes, they spell it that way) rifle powders are imported from Sweden and Switzerland. Only the old Hercules lineup of pistol and shotshell powder is made in USA.

 

[Mr. Zorg]

Mr Zorg, you are telling us what is not, tell us what is.
If American* Alliant powders are not made under their "tenant" arrangement at Radford, then where?

*Alliant's slow burning Reloder (yes, they spell it that way) rifle powders are imported from Sweden and Switzerland. Only the old Hercules lineup of pistol and shotshell powder is made in USA.

Mr. Watson,

If you *honestly* read my posts, you will find nothing in them concerning any powder being *American* or not. I'll challenge you to use the "Quote" feature to demonstrate otherwise.

So, why are you deliberately attempting to chane the *honest* content of my posts????

Please do us all a favor by first *honestly* reading my posts, then - using actual post content, not fictitious or otherwise imaginary - use the forum "Quote" feature to specifically highlight what you're unable to cognitively process, deliberately or otherwise?

 

[Jim Watson]

I am not challenging your honesty, I am exploring your knowledge.
Do you know where Alliant powders are made in the USA?
If so, please say.
Because if it is not as a sideline to government work at Radford, I am out of ideas.

The distinction between American and foreign made powders under the Alliant label was entirely mine, ignore it.

 

[Spats McGee]

Out of curiosity I called subject. Customer service lady was very helpful. She explained that they were shut down for several months but are now back in production but not full production in the next few months they should have there website back up and a toll free number to order ammo etc.
good news for all Remington ammo users!!

Bull

The Remington plant coming back on line (under Vista Outdoors ownership) will be a significant shot in the arm to ammo supplies.

The ammo supply could use that shot in the arm, as could the AR economy (jobs).

The Fiochi plant is right down the road and a Sig plant somewhere here in AR. I wonder what the status of them is?

The Sig plant is in Jacksonville. I think Fiocchi is (or will be) in Little Rock.

 

[Jim Watson]

I think Fiocchi is (or will be) in Little Rock.

Fiocchi is the main 9mm that the local rental range is getting in.
I'll have to get a box out of the trash and see if it is domestic or imported.

 

[AR. Hillbilly]

The ammo supply could use that shot in the arm, as could the AR economy (jobs).

The Sig plant is in Jacksonville. I think Fiocchi is (or will be) in Little Rock.

Awesome

 

[Spats McGee]

Fiocchi is the main 9mm that the local rental range is getting in.
I'll have to get a box out of the trash and see if it is domestic or imported.

If you've owned that box more than about a year, it's probably not from the LR plant. To be honest, I'm not even sure if the plant is up and running yet. I might need to make some calls and find out.

 

[AR. Hillbilly]

I’m wondering as well. Asked local logs but they’re not sure either.

 

[rust collector]

This is just one source, but the Fiocchi Little Rock expansion was announced last July, apparently involved an existing operation, and was to ramp up from 28 to 85 employees. I see no reference to timeframes, and they tend to be optimistic in press releases and announcements. https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/...n-of-ammo-plant-in-little-rock-to-add-57-jobs

 

[rust collector]

Just notice a new Vista video dropped yesterday.