geophysicishooter
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I had the pleasure this past weekend of being a judge at a UIL Regional debate tourney (former high school debater, I am). Saturday morning's edition of the local fishwrap (newspaper) above-the-fold story was a piece regarding the bill in the Texas Legislature allowing concealed carry on the campuses of Tx universities and colleges. So I bring it up in talking to the tourney director over coffee that morning before the day's activities got started.
Well, as you might have guessed, he was NOT in favor of the idea of "students carrying guns on campus". I answered his protestations with the standard "only CHL holders are legally allowed to carry under the legislation" and the arguement that forcing people to go unarmed is unjust, especially when it's been demonstrated, tragically and repeatedly, that homicidal maniacs don't obey "gun free zone" signs.
"Well, I think it would detract from the educational environment if students are carrying guns", "If the Texas Legislature passes this bill, I'll quit teaching in Texas or any other state that allows concealed carry" and "Utah and Colorado State have seen a tremendous flight of faculty since allowing concealed carry on campus" were the things he said in defending his opposition to concealed carry on campus..
It being extremely difficult to convince a staunch anti that guns aren't, in fact, sentient, autonomous beings capable of wanton killing on their own and time before morning rounds drawing short, I left him to his predjudice deciding that discretion was the better part of valour.
I just wonder how what he was saying about faculty leaving college campuses (campi?? like octopus/octopi) where concealed carry on campus is permitted..
has anyone heard of or know of any stats backing up that assertion??
and either way, is that good or bad for Texas Universities and colleges to loose faculty who fear law-abiding students, faculty and staff who practice their right to bear arms?
Well, as you might have guessed, he was NOT in favor of the idea of "students carrying guns on campus". I answered his protestations with the standard "only CHL holders are legally allowed to carry under the legislation" and the arguement that forcing people to go unarmed is unjust, especially when it's been demonstrated, tragically and repeatedly, that homicidal maniacs don't obey "gun free zone" signs.
"Well, I think it would detract from the educational environment if students are carrying guns", "If the Texas Legislature passes this bill, I'll quit teaching in Texas or any other state that allows concealed carry" and "Utah and Colorado State have seen a tremendous flight of faculty since allowing concealed carry on campus" were the things he said in defending his opposition to concealed carry on campus..
It being extremely difficult to convince a staunch anti that guns aren't, in fact, sentient, autonomous beings capable of wanton killing on their own and time before morning rounds drawing short, I left him to his predjudice deciding that discretion was the better part of valour.
I just wonder how what he was saying about faculty leaving college campuses (campi?? like octopus/octopi) where concealed carry on campus is permitted..
has anyone heard of or know of any stats backing up that assertion??
and either way, is that good or bad for Texas Universities and colleges to loose faculty who fear law-abiding students, faculty and staff who practice their right to bear arms?