Can not carry at work

Is conceal carry allowed at work

  • No where on property

    Votes: 137 47.1%

  • Car/Truck only

    Votes: 87 29.9%

  • Anywhere on property

    Votes: 53 18.2%

  • Required to carry

    Votes: 14 4.8%
  • Total voters
    291
  • Poll closed .
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Utah has a law in place saying that employers who ban firearms can not ban the guns being stored in cars in the parking lot. Of course that doesn't apply to federal agencies, post office, etc.

The company I work for has a policy that weapons are forbidden where state law allows it. I'm not sure what that means in Utah and I'm not going to ask.

Matt
 
Reloadron said:
Not going to happen here. I work in the bowels (skunk works) of a DoD and DoE facility in a secured and classified area. Weapons of any type are left in the truck. Parking lot is fine, beyond checkpoints, not going to happen. I am fine with that rule as it bothers me not.

Ron
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Well trained gunmen and everyone with a Q clearance probably doesn't hurt either.
 
The poll didn't ask the question of whether concealed carry was allowed by the state/local jurisdiction, in the first place. I'm retired now, but when I worked, it was in the District of Columbia, for a government agency. Carrying at work, of course, was out of the question unless I had a job title of Special Agent (which I didn't).
 
For 29 years I flew helicopters over the Gulf of Mexico.

Most of the jobs were 7 days on and 7 days off. So many pilots and mechanics lived hundreds of miles away from work. Almost all of us (legal or not) carried guns traveling to and from work.
While at work we kept the guns in the company apartments.
Nothing was ever said. The company had no policy and no one cared.


Then the lawyers got into it.

At the Friday morning briefing the Area Manager gave us a letter to sign. "No drugs, alcohol, guns, etc, on any company property or in company vehicles."

I told the boss,
"I'm not signing this and I will have a gun .........."

He interrupted me and said,
"We have already been through this with the other hitch. They also refused to sign because of the gun part. I have my gun in the company apartment right now.
When told this the company President said, "Scratch out "guns" and sign the paper".

So we did.


The lesson here is, if everyone stands up for what is right sometimes we can win.
 
I work on a military base (Army) so of course, no guns allowed!

Reminds me of Dr. Strangelove: "You can't fight in here! This is the WAR ROOM!!"

:p
 
Generally, nine out of ten days I work at home. On the one day I visit the facility I respect the "no firearms allowed on company property" rule.

Dan
 
mljdeckard said:
I work for a company where the employers never trust their employees to carry loaded guns to defend themselves.

(The U.S. Army.)
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You wouldn't have that issue if you were a Marine....because you could just toss your KBAR into a BG like that were David Lopan...or just use brute strength.

My dad was a Marine. ;) He doesn't actually espouse any of the stereotypes that I imply...well besides the 1911 is god, it's coming back, here's an article (even though that's for a specialized subsection), 8 rounds 45ACP is enough, and the Beretta M9 is a nice gun...but it's still junk to the 1911 (of course he never even tried one till I had one last year as he left the service in the 1970s). I love him. :)
 
I'm glad my state passed a law that forbids companies from prohibiting the possession of firearms in their personal vehicles while on company property.
 
I don't think an employer can search your car just because it is parked on his property unless you signed something or agreed to allow random searches as a condition of employment. For example, I employ a man who mows my yard once a week. I can not go out and search his truck just because he is parked it in my driveway. I can't stick my hand in his pocket either. Something like this probably would require a pryor agreement.
 
my answer is all of the above. Being in the service industry I am at new places everyday. some places allow some dont.
 
It's a legal CYA thing for corporations trying to minimize liability exposure.

NC is flirting with legislation which would outlaw prohibitions against guns in vehicles in the parking-lot. I know a lot of employers that would absolutely welcome that because the law would take the responsibility for the decision out of their hands and therefore help shield them from civil lawsuits that always come if someone gets shot on corporation property.
 
Not allow on the property but state law trumps that so it's in the car, I work at an office supply store
 
The company I work for won't even allow a pocket knife! This is directly from the company handbook:

"Prohibited Items: Under NO circumstances will any of the following items be allowed at a client site, including a vehicle parked at a client site:
- Firearms of any kind
- Night sticks/batons
- Knives
- OC / Pepper spray or Mace
- Handcuffs

Again, these items listed above are STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Failure to adhere to these points is grounds for immediate termination."

At least I have a job!
 
Well my handbook says it's not allowed so I asked HR what they were doing to protect me. There was no response.

There's a difference between not allowed and "can't". Everyone has choices to make.



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Cannot...


Course I should point out that I am not employed in the US and must abide by the countries laws I'm in (various) Which usually results in not even a pocket knife...
 
Not allowed to carry on company property or in company vehicle. Don't risk it, I love my job. Haven't been to the office in 7 months and haven't talked to the boss in 2 months. don't want to screw that up.
 
>>Well my handbook says it's not allowed so I asked HR what they were doing to protect me. There was no response.<<

That is a GREAT question to ask every employer and their lawyers. Unfortunately, many lawyers feel there is more legal risk in allowing firearms in a workplace than not. That is the reason for many of these policies. It is because of the advice from the company lawyers.
 
After a series of incidents with an employee that ended with the employee leaving very unhappy the owner was afraid that revenge was a distinct possibility. The lawyers recommended a no guns policy be enacted. Makes perfect sense right? Disarm everyone in case the ex-employee comes back to take revenge.

Anyway, the lawyers sent over some recommended anti-gun additions to the employee manual and a workplace violence slideshow that also contained some anti-gun BS. Fortunately I was asked to review, edit and approve both documents. My company continues to have no specific firearms policy.

My boss still isn’t completely comfortable with carry at work but after a few conversations he’s come around quite a bit and is looking at purchasing two shotguns; one to keep at work and an identical one to keep at home. He owns no guns currently.

As an aside one fascinating statement within the workplace violence slideshow was

• Employees should understand concept of “Universal Precautions for Violence”. i.e. that violence should be expected but can be avoided or mitigated through preparation

Kind of an odd statement for a slideshow that originally defined workplace violence as…

• “Fascination with guns or other weapons, bringing weapons into the workplace”
 
LOL about the military. Nope we are NOT allowed to carry onto base, but sure give us loaded weapons overseas no problem.
 
Where I work it's against STATE LAW for me to carry a firearm. Fortunately, there's always a couple of armed state troopers on the property...
 
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