Can the ammo situation get much worse?

[JohnBT]

"Just got back from the LGS. Naw... there's no ammo to be had anywhere"

Okay, they have a couple of cases of ammo. One local shop here can get pallets, but it doesn't last very long. A couple of cases is barely a start. I have more than that just with what's under the bed.

 

[ngnrd]

I have more than that just with what's under the bed.

Well, I suppose that may be why you aren't seeing any for sale.

 

[FitGunner]

Buying online can help to find affordable prices but then shipping can make the purchase not worthwhile. When a 20-round box of Tula goes from $0.25/round up to $0.42/round with shipping factored in, it just doesn't make sense to go that route.

 

[Warp]

Just got back from the LGS. Naw... there's no ammo to be had anywhere... Nope. No 45, 40, or 9mm to be had. Anywhere.

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And there's no AR magazines, either...

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I know, I know... the pictures are terrible. But what you're looking at is a rack full of 20- and 30-round AR mags: ProMag, Thermold, Lancer, and Troy. There were others, including some cumbersome looking 60-round steel mags, and even some mags for Mini-14's and AK's.

I almost bought an 8-pound keg of BLC(2) just because it was there, but I don't have any more room in my powder cabinet. I also decided to pass on the Berry's 230gr RN 45's and a variety of primer bricks for the same reason. I have enough to last me ... a while. I did buy one of the bulk boxes of 45 to put on the shelf for when I go shooting with a buddy, 'cause I won't shoot my handloads in someone else's gun, and I don't expect him to cover the cost of my plinking with his pistol.

Oh... and, of course the best part is... everything was at pre-panic retail prices.[/QUOTE]

Nobody ever said no ammo was available.

I have no idea what you think you are proving?

And since the signs were out of focus and you didn't say anything about limits or prices, I'm thinking that ammo isn't such a great deal/has small limits.

But if, by chance, I could get some NATO spec M193 for $400/1,000 rounds, or cheaper, from that place, please, let me/us know! Or maybe it will be the price from late 2012, more like $340/1k. That would be pretty sweet.

 

[frankenstein406]

Just got back from the LGS. Naw... there's no ammo to be had anywhere... Nope. No 45, 40, or 9mm to be had. Anywhere.



And there's no AR magazines, either...

I know, I know... the pictures are terrible. But what you're looking at is a rack full of 20- and 30-round AR mags: ProMag, Thermold, Lancer, and Troy. There were others, including some cumbersome looking 60-round steel mags, and even some mags for Mini-14's and AK's.

I almost bought an 8-pound keg of BLC(2) just because it was there, but I don't have any more room in my powder cabinet. I also decided to pass on the Berry's 230gr RN 45's and a variety of primer bricks for the same reason. I have enough to last me ... a while. I did buy one of the bulk boxes of 45 to put on the shelf for when I go shooting with a buddy, 'cause I won't shoot my handloads in someone else's gun, and I don't expect him to cover the cost of my plinking with his pistol.

Oh... and, of course the best part is... everything was at pre-panic retail prices.

you guys have boot leg alcohol we have overpriced ammunition

 

[JohnBT]

"Well, I suppose that may be why you aren't seeing any for sale."

Hardly. I bought most of the ammo over the years. For instance, my 28 remaining bricks of Wolf Match Target and Extra were purchased in 2004 when WMT was $15/brick. I still have a few cases of Swiss Geco 124 gr. 9mm I bought last year when it was $200/case. I have some flats of 28 ga. Win AA-HS that Dick's Sporting Goods sold me for $3.49/box.

There was lots of ammo back then and a lot of it sat on the shelf and collected dust until they put it on sale. I love sales.

John

 

[ngnrd]

you guys have boot leg alcohol we have overpriced ammunition

HA!

 

[stonecutter2]

Just got back from the LGS. Naw... there's no ammo to be had anywhere... Nope. No 45, 40, or 9mm to be had. Anywhere.



And there's no AR magazines, either...




I know, I know... the pictures are terrible. But what you're looking at is a rack full of 20- and 30-round AR mags: ProMag, Thermold, Lancer, and Troy. There were others, including some cumbersome looking 60-round steel mags, and even some mags for Mini-14's and AK's.

I almost bought an 8-pound keg of BLC(2) just because it was there, but I don't have any more room in my powder cabinet. I also decided to pass on the Berry's 230gr RN 45's and a variety of primer bricks for the same reason. I have enough to last me ... a while. I did buy one of the bulk boxes of 45 to put on the shelf for when I go shooting with a buddy, 'cause I won't shoot my handloads in someone else's gun, and I don't expect him to cover the cost of my plinking with his pistol.

Oh... and, of course the best part is... everything was at pre-panic retail prices.

That's fantastic for you or anyone near that shop.

In my local area, the story is very different.

Bare shelves where ammo used to be.

Mags do pop up more lately. But sell fast.

I'm not in some fantasyland called NoAmmo.

Thanks for showing us how flush you are with ammo, reloading, and mags though. Makes me feel all better about the situation around here.

 

[silicosys4]

^^

Boohoo.
His point is, there is not necessarily the nationwide "panic" and "shortage" that people seem to think there is based on what they are seeing in their local shops.

 

[JohnBT]

If you take a look at the middle pic, to the right of the magazine rack is an ammo display. The bottom shelf is empty. The center shelf is less than half full and the top shelf has a few boxes. Not exactly brimming with ammo. Still looks like a shortage to me.

 

[wisconsin]

Fleetfarm has some bulk 45 and 9mm consistantly, just need to ask atvthe counter. One box limit though

 

[walt501]

If you're looking for ammunition at major retailers, I believe you'll most likely be disappointed. This past weekend I took a drive out of town and stopped at a sporting goods store in a small town. While quantities and variety weren't huge, they had .22LR, .380, 9mm, 44spl, 44mag 45acp and 45 Colt all sitting on the self.

If you happen to be driving in rural areas, stop in a local sporting goods store - you just might be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Motega]

good!

my condolences to competition shooters and those that shoot as their primary/only hobby.
I have a decent stockpile and have decided not to start shooting it until things ease up, but I can fish, shoot the longbow, and 100 other things and in the meantime I'd like to think that manufacturers are being honest when they say they are working full tilt and selling out week after week. If they were not being supplied with the means to make ammo I'd hope they'd be more vocal about reaching us...
to me all this means is a temporary inconvenience and lots of profit for the gun/ammo industry which is EXACTLY what's needed at this point.
I'd guess since most of us have jobs and can't attend rallies we have to rely on the guys that make their living doing this to spend the money lobbying and this is probably the best they've seen it -EVER- .

 

[ngnrd]

If you take a look at the middle pic, to the right of the magazine rack is an ammo display. The bottom shelf is empty. The center shelf is less than half full and the top shelf has a few boxes. Not exactly brimming with ammo. Still looks like a shortage to me.

So, one end cap display (of several) isn't packed full of ammo and you conclude that there's a shortage? Well, I suppose there's been a shortage for years, then.

I admit that my local situation may not be typical at the moment, but it's definitely a good sign.

Hang in there guys. There's light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[Warp]

^^

Boohoo.
His point is, there is not necessarily the nationwide "panic" and "shortage" that people seem to think there is based on what they are seeing in their local shops.

His point is moot when there is a 2 box limit at that LGS, and he still hasn't stated what any of the prices were, unless I missed it

 

[Alizard]

Can the ammo situation get much worse?

I don't see how: there is no integer smaller than zero. And we have exactly zero ammo for sale so it doesn't get any lower.

Once the panic-stricken lemmings start to realize that Obama CAN'T actually wave a magic wand and take away all their guns and ammo, the panic buying/hoarding will stop and eventually things will get back towards normal.

 

[ngnrd]

His point is moot when there is a 2 box limit at that LGS, and he still hasn't stated what any of the prices were, unless I missed it

Dude... don't be H8n. Sure, there's a three box limit so some fool hoarder doesn't come in and scoop the whole shelf into his cart so it can all collect dust in his bunker. But, I don't know how that matters when there's clearly ammo available. And the actual prices don't really matter either, unless you have a reference for what we Alaskans usually pay (here's a clue... It's usually a bit more than what you folks down in America usually pay). But, I guess you missed this part of my post...

Oh... and, of course the best part is... everything was at pre-panic retail prices.

So... chill, man. Like I said, I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel. It will probably still be a while before we can all get back to trusting the LGS to have whatever ammo we need on our way to the range. But, I don't think it'll be much longer 'till supply starts meeting demand again. It's already starting to happen here.

Peace, out...
Or hakuna matata...
Or hang loose...

Whatever. I'm not sure what they say down in Georgia... Just, stay calm. The storm is passing.

 

[huntsman]

Once the panic-stricken lemmings start to realize that Obama CAN'T actually wave a magic wand and take away all their guns and ammo, the panic buying/hoarding will stop and eventually things will get back towards normal.

So a Socialist can't lie, cajole, or outright strong arm to get his way? And if all the little boys and girls just behave the ammo fairy will magically reward Us with all the cheap ammo we want? I take the Red Pill daily.

 

[Warp]

Dude... don't be H8n. Sure, there's a three box limit so some fool hoarder doesn't come in and scoop the whole shelf into his cart so it can all collect dust in his bunker.

So the reason people can only buy 60 rounds at a time, even though they need about 700 for the Appleseed they are going to this weekend, is that there is no shortage.

Riiiiight

 

[JohnBT]

"So, one end cap display (of several) isn't packed full of ammo and you conclude that there's a shortage? Well, I suppose there's been a shortage for years, then. "

The pictures tell the story. There's a lot more empty shelf than there is ammo. Maybe that shop is in a small town and doesn't sell a lot of ammo and never did. They just built the shelves for the heck of it.

The one-year-old indoor range here probably goes through that much an hour. www.colonialshooting.com

John

 

[Queen_of_Thunder]

A friend showed up at my local Academy @ 0830 to try and find some 9mm ammo. No luck. All that was left was PD ammo @$1 a round. They had ammo bit the demand was far in excess of what they had recieved. Thete is no 38 special or 357 in my area. Its harder to come by than 22lr. Its absurd but hey thats life. You just have to deal with it. Adapt and overcome as Clint said the movie HeartBreak Ridge.

I'll square my friend away this Friday with a thousand rounds of 9mm ammo. It should keep he and his shooting partner going for a bit. Yes I will make a profit on it. A grand total of $20 over my costs. After all he insisted plus I have to deliver it. This should preclude him from buying any $1 a round 9mm for awhile.

 

[ngnrd]

Fine... Keep running around telling everybody the sky is falling. Just understand that any ammo shortage that does exist where you are, might just be because of you.

As for me? Well, me and Foxy Loxy are going shooting.

 

[Bill4282]

All my local Bass Pro had in stock was .45long colt and shotgun shells. All's well if you own a Judge. Maybe I can trim down the .45 to fit my 1911.

 

[bolthead]

What I don't understand is that why are the shelves not flooded with foreign ammo. As far as I know there are no ammo shortages in Europe. I bet the Russians will be very happy to fill such a large demand if given a chance. Of course its not top notch ammo in a lot of cases but its still better than nothing. I bet there are some sort of trade embargo agreements to shelter the "free market" big three that prevent anyone else from filling in.

 

[Warp]

What I don't understand is that why are the shelves not flooded with foreign ammo. As far as I know there are no ammo shortages in Europe. I bet the Russians will be very happy to fill such a large demand if given a chance. Of course its not top notch ammo in a lot of cases but its still better than nothing. I bet there are some sort of trade embargo agreements to shelter the "free market" big three that prevent anyone else from filling in.

Because people are still buying it up before/as it hits the shelves?

Because most manufacturing is probably set up to run near 100% to be at its most efficient, and it's not such an easy (or inexpensive) thing to just go and add significant capacity, nor is it likely that that kind of capacity would be added for what appears likely to be a short term situation.

And I have seen a lot of foreign ammo available lately.