Can we take a moment to appreciate this Texas hero.

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Can we take a moment to appreciate this absolute chad of an officer who went from telling kids how important it was to wear their seatbelt to sprinting across a shopping center parking lot in the Texas heat to stop a mass shooter with no hesitation at all.

But also keep in mind that despite their being an officer within earshot who was ready to protect about 5 minutes passed between the first shots and the officer finding an taking down the perp. We need more officers like this guy, but we also need more citizens who carry. Imagine if instead of of 5 minute away there was a good guy with a gun 1 minute away, or right there when it happened. How many more lives could have been saved?

This officer was awesome, a 5 minute response is better than most could hope for, but unfortunately officers like this guy can’t be everywhere at once and we need to be mindful of that.

 
I watched his body camera video last night, If that guy isn't a Hero nobody is. He went from dead zero to 100 MPH in less than a few seconds and obviously saved many more children by ending this fiend. Even having the where withal to pause a couple seconds and gun-up with his rifle before storming in. Thank goodness these guys keep their long guns at the ready when on normal daily patrol.
 
Not everyone got the skills or Grit. I sure don’t, would probably poop all over myself if I was in that scary situation
 
Didn't semi-auto rifles become standard with LEOs because of the North Hollywood Shootout in the 90’s?

This was such a rare coincidence (the TX officer’s availability).
 
Ignition Override said:
Didn't semi-auto rifles become standard with LEOs because of the North Hollywood Shootout in the 90’s?

This was such a rare coincidence (the TX officer’s availability).
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That was probably a factor. Rifles have mostly replaced shotguns now and most patrol cars have one.
 
Ignition Override said:
Didn't semi-auto rifles become standard with LEOs because of the North Hollywood Shootout in the 90’s?

This was such a rare coincidence (the TX officer’s availability).
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The North Hollywood Shootout most certainly spurred many departments to adopt or approve officers carrying AR's.
Here in the Dallas area the single most impactful event on officers carrying AR's was this shootout in 2004, ten miles south of the Allen Outlet Mall.
The "Takeover Bandits" had committed as many as seventy bank robberies over a two year period. When this shootout occurred Richardson and Plano P.D were still issuing shotguns to its patrol officers.
 
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We don't praise LEO and armed citizens who run toward gunfire and engage gunman enough. We will give "Keys to the city", plaques in public centers and city benches in honor of a wealthy businessman who donates money for a rec center or to some notable educator, we need to pay tribute to people who interrupt mass carnage at great risk to themselves the same way, in the same spirit. To inspire others and pay respect.

To me, people who save others in the face of great danger is the most extreme form of philanthropy a person can do...
 
Ignition Override said:
Didn't semi-auto rifles become standard with LEOs because of the North Hollywood Shootout in the 90’s?

This was such a rare coincidence (the TX officer’s availability).
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Only for LE agencies that didn’t study the events and heed the lessons from the Norco, Ca bank robbery that happened in 1980.

Unfortunately, there are a LOT of agencies that took the “It can’t happen here” approach. :(

https://www.google.com/search?q=norco+bank+robbery&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

The agency I lateraled over to in 1994 had H&K .308’s in the captains cars, H&K 223’s in the Sergeants cars, H&K Mp5’s in the Corporals cars and Benelli semi-auto 12 ga shotguns in all patrol cars long before I got there. They followed the lead of the SBSD, who went to installing Mini-14 .223’s in deputies cars shortly after their involvement in the 1980 Norco shootout.

Others have now realized that rifles are an effective piece of equipment for responding to events that happen with no warning, just like this one.

Stay safe.
 
I watched that video at least 5 times over the years, I thought that the two bandits would have been very easily taken out with an AR or even a bolt action rifle. They were very well outfitted for a gunfight and were basically impervious to handguns and buckshot against their aramid, but even a halfway decent marksman would have been able to deliver a precise, life ending shot from distance with an AR or a 30-06 and I doubt the thing would have lasted more than 5 mins. Those guys were just raining lead indiscriminately, a marksman from a safe distance would have been able to get a good shot from a safe distance.

The handguns and shotguns did not prove very effective in close quarters where the LEO'S were clearly overmatched. They weren't even particularly skilled, just heavily armed/Armored. The 86 Miami shootout is a different story, those LEO'S were outclassed, those guys were trained and battle hardened.
 
Reading some stories on the Texas shooting, in the main article is said the grand jury declined to indict the officer. In the headline of the article it said the grand jury "refused" to indict the officer. To me that makes it sound like the general consensus would be that he should be indicted but the grand jury wouldn't do it. Refused just sounds wrong. Kudos to the officer for his action and bravery.
 
Smokin Gator said:
Reading some stories on the Texas shooting, in the main article is said the grand jury declined to indict the officer. In the headline of the article it said the grand jury "refused" to indict the officer. To me that makes it sound like the general consensus would be that he should be indicted but the grand jury wouldn't do it. Refused just sounds wrong. Kudos to the officer for his action and bravery.
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To me, "Refused" means the grand jury saw absolutely no reason whatsoever to indict. It is far more emphatic than "didn't indict".

"Didn't indict", "refused", "declined" or what ever other terms are used, are used by the author of the article. Grand juries in Texas return either a "True Bill" meaning there is probable cause to indict or as in this case, "No Bill", meaning the prosecution does not pursue criminal charges. So the Grand Jury didn't say "we refuse to indict", they said "No Bill".
 
That’s a pretty great video. I can see why the police department would want to release it. I admire his presence of mind, shifting gears instantly from talking to kids (and their rather cute mom!) to recognizing shots fired, calling it in, grabbing his rifle, and heading towards the sound.
 
We need thousand of more just like him as well as citizens willing to carry and use a firearm when needed. But the anti gun crowd will never acknowledge the fact that armed citizens and quality LE officers help deter crime.
 
lightman said:
I would be honored to shake that officers hand and buy him a beer or cup of coffee! We need more like Him.
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dogtown tom said:
To me, "Refused" means the grand jury saw absolutely no reason whatsoever to indict. It is far more emphatic than "didn't indict".

"Didn't indict", "refused", "declined" or what ever other terms are used, are used by the author of the article. Grand juries in Texas return either a "True Bill" meaning there is probable cause to indict or as in this case, "No Bill", meaning the prosecution does not pursue criminal charges. So the Grand Jury didn't say "we refuse to indict", they said "No Bill".
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You might be correct about the intended use of "refused". But I think they could describe the decision better and be more specific that there was absolutely no reason to indict the officer, he was completely justified. The way they used it leaves it open to the interpretation that I and maybe others have made. Make it very clear what was meant.
 
DPD started issuing more rifles to officers after five officers were killed in a racially motivated murder by an assassin with an AR in 2016 but any officer who wants to carry an AR has to be AR qualified and they do not have many classes and only about a little over half a dozen officers are in one class. Officers have to requalify every month to stay certified. A lot of well trained DPD officers went over to work for Allen PD.

When you consider the weight of a duty belt, the vest, and the boots it is very hard and exhausting to run fast or long distance.
 
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