Trey Veston
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Going to be my new primary EDC. Bought a S&W M&P40c to fill that role but not happy with the trigger or accuracy.
New gun will also see some time in GSSF matches. Initially thought the G19 was the answer, then I fondled the G23 and the G19. G23 felt slightly better, but the G19 had a better trigger.
Looking at the G19 Gen 5 MOS for $489:
Pros:
- 15 round vs 13 round capacity.
- Slightly better trigger.
- Marksman barrel equals better accuracy(?)
- Plinking ammo easier and cheaper
- Better NDLC finish.
- Looks nicer due to beveled front slide and front serrations.
- Already have extra G19 mags.
- Set up for 9mm reloading and have lots of bullets and powder.
- Can easily use RMR sights if desired.
Cons:
- 9mm is weaker than .40 S&W
- Not set up for cast 9mm bullets and am for .40 S&W
- No idea if it is actually more accurate
- $80 more than the G23.
- All my loads and other pistols are .40 S&W
- Can't change calibers.
Glock G23 Gen 4 for $410:
Pros:
- Fits my hand like a glove.
- I have lots of parts for the Gen 4 Glocks.
- I love .40 S&W.
- Can easily convert to 9mm or .357 Sig if desired.
- Same size as G19 for carry.
- Most of my bullet molds and recipes are for .40 S&W.
- More power; can be used for woods carry if needed.
- $80 less than the G19.
Cons:
- Trigger not as good as Gen 5
- Not as aesthetically pleasing.
- Weaker finish.
- Lower resale value
- Higher recoil
- Possibly not as accurate as G19.
- 2 less rounds.
- Will have to buy more magazines for GSSF.
I really, really have no idea which way to go. I believe the 9mm is fine for self-defense for humans, and I have a 10mm for woods carry. I would consider a hot .40 S&W as the absolute minimum for woods carry around here.
But I love to bench test pistols for accuracy, and my G19 Gen 4 was disappointing, which is the main reason I sold it. That and the trigger wasn't very good.
I'm also ditching the M&P because it's trigger is annoying and accuracy is also disappointing. Overall size and weight for carry is just fine, but it doesn't feel as good as the G23 or G19 for me.
But the accuracy and trigger are the main things. With all of the Gen 4 Glocks I've had the past few years, it has been a crap shoot as far as trigger and accuracy. My G29 is a unicorn with excellent trigger and amazing accuracy. All of the Gen 5 triggers I've tried have been great. But I've heard mixed reviews of the supposed increased accuracy and there have been some reports of reduced velocity.
Would appreciate some objective input...
New gun will also see some time in GSSF matches. Initially thought the G19 was the answer, then I fondled the G23 and the G19. G23 felt slightly better, but the G19 had a better trigger.
Looking at the G19 Gen 5 MOS for $489:
Pros:
- 15 round vs 13 round capacity.
- Slightly better trigger.
- Marksman barrel equals better accuracy(?)
- Plinking ammo easier and cheaper
- Better NDLC finish.
- Looks nicer due to beveled front slide and front serrations.
- Already have extra G19 mags.
- Set up for 9mm reloading and have lots of bullets and powder.
- Can easily use RMR sights if desired.
Cons:
- 9mm is weaker than .40 S&W
- Not set up for cast 9mm bullets and am for .40 S&W
- No idea if it is actually more accurate
- $80 more than the G23.
- All my loads and other pistols are .40 S&W
- Can't change calibers.
Glock G23 Gen 4 for $410:
Pros:
- Fits my hand like a glove.
- I have lots of parts for the Gen 4 Glocks.
- I love .40 S&W.
- Can easily convert to 9mm or .357 Sig if desired.
- Same size as G19 for carry.
- Most of my bullet molds and recipes are for .40 S&W.
- More power; can be used for woods carry if needed.
- $80 less than the G19.
Cons:
- Trigger not as good as Gen 5
- Not as aesthetically pleasing.
- Weaker finish.
- Lower resale value
- Higher recoil
- Possibly not as accurate as G19.
- 2 less rounds.
- Will have to buy more magazines for GSSF.
I really, really have no idea which way to go. I believe the 9mm is fine for self-defense for humans, and I have a 10mm for woods carry. I would consider a hot .40 S&W as the absolute minimum for woods carry around here.
But I love to bench test pistols for accuracy, and my G19 Gen 4 was disappointing, which is the main reason I sold it. That and the trigger wasn't very good.
I'm also ditching the M&P because it's trigger is annoying and accuracy is also disappointing. Overall size and weight for carry is just fine, but it doesn't feel as good as the G23 or G19 for me.
But the accuracy and trigger are the main things. With all of the Gen 4 Glocks I've had the past few years, it has been a crap shoot as far as trigger and accuracy. My G29 is a unicorn with excellent trigger and amazing accuracy. All of the Gen 5 triggers I've tried have been great. But I've heard mixed reviews of the supposed increased accuracy and there have been some reports of reduced velocity.
Would appreciate some objective input...