Cap Guard question

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From what i hear there are two types of cap guards, The one was recommended was to cut some Fish aquarium hose to fit onto the # 10 caps But my Question Is, Has anyone ever done this without filling in the Hammer with JBWELD
would that tubing actually hold that cap all of the time:?
 
As slow as they already are to load, doing that just seems like one more thing to do before you shoot!
It wont matter what kind of blow back you have if you have a stud or cap rake installed. The stud wont let stuff go by so the force on the hammer is of no consequence.
With the safety slot filled, blow back can still be a prob., plus , you cant use the safety pins in the cylinder.
This also alows you to tune the revolver more like a cartridge gun, very light and very fast !! You cant do that with tubing or filing a slot with jb.
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Homemade Cap Guards

I made some cap guards for my 1860 Colt clone. I found some discarded clear plastic tubing and I don't know all the specs on it. The OD is 1/4" and the ID seems to be larger than 1/8", kinda hard to measure accurately since it is not perfectly round. I cut the tubing to 5/32" lengths. They work well but are a P.I.T.A. to install and remove. The caps have all stayed in place for me and even though the tubing gets very ugly they can be reused.

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Thanks for all that Information and Pictures
i have some Tubing from an old Beta Fish Tank and i wanted to see it it fit the nipple and it did snugly.so i guess that may have been the right size i should measure with a caliper.

But did you still have to fill in the hammer?
 
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yes i do Like the Cap Rake idea if was Going to carefully do it on mine what size bit and also what size pin Diameter,and where could i get such a pin or make one for that Matter.

So this Cap Rake will sweep the cap before letting it even fall into the action?
IF so that sounds like a Nice Mod.
 
BerettaGhost said:
yes i do Like the Cap Rake idea if was Going to carefully do it on mine what size bit and also what size pin Diameter,and where could i get such a pin or make one for that Matter.

So this Cap Rake will sweep the cap before letting it even fall into the action?
IF so that sounds like a Nice Mod.
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I drill a hole about 1/8th of an inch deep with a 1/16" drill bit. For the pin, I cut of the shank of a broken 1/16" drill bit and tap it in place. I secure it when a few punch marks from a center punch. The height I use is just to the top of the cone. If I have to, I enlarge the hammer slot so I can still use the safety pins on the cylinder and load six.

Also, a trough in the recoil shield will help the cap find it way out of the mechanism if the cap fragments.
 
That is good to hear

i would not really care if mine was a 6 shooter but its a 5 shooter so when you eliminate one you only have 4 so that is not much fun

Thanks
 
Sounds Good to me that is good you did not have to drill to Deep.

i heard someone is trying leather as their shield to prevent the caps from falling in,
and someone asked him if that would affect the hammer from not smacking hard enough. And i guess there was no reply from that although it seemed like an easy idea,

Thank You for the Details on your Rake.
 
Yap, what Strawhat said.
That allows you to treat it like a cartg gun! Wooo hooo!!
 
Wooo hooo!!

Yep that is what its all about.i always thought was funny picturing Clint Eastwood
in The Good, the bad, and the ugly, or Pale Rider, With a Cap Sucker Colt.

While he was taking out the bad guys in between each shot he takes out a pocket knife and all the enemies wait till he clears the hammer.Then hes ready again
i just had to laugh if that happened.:eek:
 
Yes and the Pietta where he swapped out the cylinder quickly though when i watch that scene over and over i do not actually see anything in his hand when he swaps it out and it looks almost like a magic trick.Magic of Holly Wood i guess or did he really swap them out that fast.

I looked several times and did not actually see any cylinder in his hand he did it so fast.
 
I have some old caps made with brass, that do not blow to shreds like the current ones made with the thin copper. Some fired ones need to be pulled off the nipple.
Don't remember "cap jams" being a problem when I used to be able to buy and use them.
 
i thought of a permanent remedy for Caps
Crazy Glue the Caps to the Nipples they wont be a problem anymore :eek:
Just Kidding no one try that Please lol


@Dave So what Brand were you using at the time and what Year?
i have bought 100 tins of Remington #10

And a few Tins of #11 for my Super Companion.

Thank You
 
Clint E

Look closer, the guns he used for action shooting sequences used conversion cylinders. They were actually cartridges.
The closeups were designed as an illusion to actual cap and ball.
The movie producers and even a lot of the re-enactments prefer the cartridge over the black powder c&b for safety reasons.
 
Started black powder shooting in the '60s
Those GOOD caps were Alcan (made in Italy), Dixie Gun Works also sold them under their own label, and no "hazard shipping" charge.
I see empty tins selling for $10
We could end a lot of these cap issue threads if Alcan caps were made again!
 
I just pinch my caps sideways so they are a bit oval and then put them on. Havent had one fall off yet.
 
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i think the topic was more above the Hammer notch grabbing the cap, and not them falling off.

Pinching caps sometimes is ok but if it is safe all the time i dont know.
 
You are right. So making sure they stay on gives you something to do after you shoot. The post or cap rake removes the cap from the hammer face if it is indeed stuck in the safety slot. The blow back removes the cap for you, the rake keeps it from going into the action, the relief in the right recoil shield gives the spent cap a place to go. It seems that saving steps rather than creating additional steps would be more productive. I think caps are made of thiner materials today and the prob with them is more a new one than one that existed when these guns were contemporary. New probs. need new solutions. I don't know who "invented" the rake but, it seems the best and least complicated as is evident in the vid. by Brushhippie in which he fans a '51 Navy set up by Goons Gunworks. You can see the caps being thrown to the side.
 
I will have to see that video sometime as i am trying to picture
all this in my head.

You Fire off a shot The Cap can still get grabbed by the Hammers Notch pin or no pin in place,Unless the Hammer is Filled in.

But then again i think i am wrong becasue The pin (Rake) will block the cap from going into the hammers Notch as it sweeps it to the right?

You guys are the experts here at this but in my mine i see the Rake only sweeping it away as you cock the hammer back and the cylinder is rotating for your next shot,

The relief in the right recoil shield gives the spent cap a place to go that You mentioned, i am not sure what what a person would keep there i was thinking maybe a good idea was if it is a thin shim of Aluminum, that we use to use when i was a locksmith.The shims slips into the Locks cylinder.

Some One person used leather.it is a good idea to have something there but what material i do not know.

Just my luck when i first tried my colt the cap fell into the action on my 1st shot lol. What a Nice Treat for a 1st impression.

i was unable to cock the Colt. i do not recall at this point if i was lucky enough to shake the cap out of there without opening up the Grips or complete Takedown.

i do not do a whole lot of shooting like you all do_Once in a while i do.But i do want to make it a regular thing eventually.So for now i enjoy taking them apart putting them together cleaning them making sure they work and most of the time they do not when they come to my Door, till i remove all the Goo from the Nipples and Bore or clean the entire Revolver.

i always see people complain on cabelas and most of the time they never inspect the Revolver or give it a real cleaning before using it.or overload it with powder,use wrong size balls and caps.
 
Cap Guards - For #10 & 11 Caps on ebay

Anybody seen or used these? Made of hi temp silicon material and reusable? About .11 ea after shipping.
 
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