Castle Doctrine, getting close.
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So good to see a real honest pro-gun Democrat.
And compared to the RINO Taft....
Ohio,I think is in the cat bird seat with this man,gunwise.
Then ,if he becomes a strong Veep candidate,I'll feel a lot better.
And compared to the RINO Taft....
Ohio,I think is in the cat bird seat with this man,gunwise.
Then ,if he becomes a strong Veep candidate,I'll feel a lot better.
Ohio Rifleman
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Taft is a disgrace to the state of Ohio, I think he actually vetoed the Ohio pre-emption bill that was passed anyway with a 2/3 majority. He was corrupt, too, so we kicked him out.
And yes, Strickland is a good pro-gun Democrat. And thanks for the date, I didn't know when it was supposed to go into effect. And why do they wait months before a bill takes effect when it's signed into law? Why not right away?
And yes, Strickland is a good pro-gun Democrat. And thanks for the date, I didn't know when it was supposed to go into effect. And why do they wait months before a bill takes effect when it's signed into law? Why not right away?
Ohio Gun Guy
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The law goes into affect 90 days past when it was signed. I don't know the reason why. Perhaps it allows time for Judicial review??? I thing that makes it late September? (I Forget the signing date)
Samuel Adams
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Ohio's bill has no teeth in respect for non-CCW holders in their vehicles.
CypherNinja
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Yeah, we know, but we're getting there. We've passed a TON of good laws the last several years. Some areas get leaps (Pre-emption) and bounds (Castle Doctrine), while some areas get baby steps (car issues).
It's all moving forward, though.
It's all moving forward, though.
Samuel Adams
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Good luck. In the meantime, I'll have to get a Florida non-resident license to carry in my home state.CypherNinja said:
GO BUCKS!
Linda
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Sept. 9 is the day it takes effect.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/5753
That's not true. We got "transportation of a firearm" put back to what it was prior to being stripped away several years ago along with the definition of "unloaded" and other hot issues. Here is an analysis of what this bill does:
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/5730
There is much that has to go into "getting ready" for the law to go into effect. Can you imagine if all new laws went into effect immediately and law enforcement does not know about it. How many innocent people would be getting charged with things under the "old" law. It's not an easy process to get everyone up to speed. The Attorney General's office, who administrates CCW law in Ohio, has to print new books, etc. It's just not that easy.
Taft DID veto HB347, our preemption law. The House and Senate came right back and overrode his veto. It was an awesome day in the Statehouse when that happened. It was the first Governor veto override in Ohio in over 30 years and it was on our bill!!!
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/3432
Taft was a horrible Governor. Yes, disgrace is one word for that man. He was a convicted criminal and still kept his job. The Republican Party should have thrown him out immediately, but NO, they never even came close to taking those steps. I'll give that to the Democrat Party with the Marc Dann situation....they acted immediately, took the high road, and forced a resignation. Huge difference between Taft and Dann....,Taft was a convicted criminal, and kept his job. Dann broke NO laws and was tossed out.
Unfortunately, we can't take the claim to fame that we "kicked him out". He was termed limited out.
Always check out http://www.BuckeyeFirearms.org first if you want to know what's going on Legislatively in the state. Our website is always up to date.
I think people have to remember that anti-gun laws started over taking the country in the late 60's. It seems every city and township starting passing anti-guns while we "slept". For Ohio it's been since 2004 that these local laws finally got overturned and it's been a fight ever since and still is. We've got a long way to go but Ohio is getting there.
Samuel Adams
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I'm still not clear on this. In order for the Castle Doctrine to be effective in respect to vehicle carry, the driver must have a loaded weapon readily available in his vehicle. Is this the case for those without an Ohio CCW?Linda said:
Here's the link to Ohio Title 29 law for carrying in a MV. From my limited understanding (INAL either) the Castle doctrine law HB 185 make no changes to that part of the law.
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.16
I think, again I'm only guessing, the problem is with carrying a loaded firearm somewhere in the care that can be accessed too easily. The LEO's already know if the person is legally carrying before they even stop the vehicle. It's sort of a "crap shoot" for anyone else.
Linda
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Sam, you're confusing what all this bill covered and trying to combine all aspects of this bill into one subject. SB184 covered many issues: Castle Doctrine, non-licensees issues and concealed carry issues. It was pretty slick how what got so much fixed by inserting it into Castle Doctrine.
Brief summary of the Castle Doctrine portion only: if someone breaks into my home and I feel threatened and defend myself, the presumption of innocence remains upon me, the victim. It also keeps the criminals family from being able to come back and sue me civilly. This protection also extends to my vehicle.
Self defense isn't always going to be with just a firearm. Perhaps it's a knife or some other form of weapon, such as a bat or it could even be a ballpoint pen. So don't confuse Castle Doctrine as to having anything to do with concealed carry or even a firearm for that matter. Castle Doctrine is not a firearms issue, but rather it's a self defense issue, which we all have the Constitutional and God given right to self defense.
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