CCI Shotshells in conversion cylinders?

[TruthTellers]

I'd like to know if anyone here knows if CCI shotshells can be used in cap and ball conversions? I'd specifically like to know if they can be used in '58 Remington's, but really want to know if they can be used in any conversions.

I'm a new forum member here and this is my first post. I've looked up a lot of stuff and found the posts here on THR to be very informative. Hope you guys can answer my question.

 

[DPris]

They can be used in any cartridge-firing revolver cylinder that'll fit 'em.

The rifling will spin the shot charge, so very short-range propositions.

NO .45 ACP CCI shotshell in a revolver cylinder, but the others are fine.
Denis

 

[TruthTellers]

So, the cylinder can take the pressure, but can a '58 Pietta?

 

[rcmodel]

Yes.

They are relatively low pressure loads due to the light weight of the shot charge.

rc

 

[TruthTellers]

I thought so. Now, I wonder since the barrel is 8" and the twist rate in black powder revolvers is so slow if it would keep a tighter pattern then modern revolvers.

Anyway, cool! Buying that Pietta is proving to be a good decision.

 

[DPris]

Maybe fractionally, but probably not substantially.

It's gonna be a wide spread no matter what you do.
Denis

 

[45 Dragoon]

The new guns twist rates are fast (for 45 C conversions). About 1:16

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com

 

[TruthTellers]

Maybe fractionally, but probably not substantially.

It's gonna be a wide spread no matter what you do.
Denis

I don't expect the patterns to hold up like if it was shot from a .410 shotgun, but if it holds a better pattern an extra three yards away, that's pretty cool.

Also, the twist rate for 58's is 1:36

 

[DPris]

I wouldn't expect it.

And I don't think I'd argue with 45D.
Denis

 

[TruthTellers]

Looking at Pietta's website, all Remington pattern revolvers have a 1:30 twist.

 

[45 Dragoon]

Gee thanks Denis!! Lol

Truth Tellers,
Well what's on the web may be whats on the web but when I measured my '58 Remie and my El Patron, they were the same. The Remie is by Pietta, the E.P. is an Uberti and they both throw .45 slugs rather well.
Also, my 2 first Mod. Dragoons (converted to 45 Colt) have the same fast twist and they are two of the best shooters I've ever had! (They are why I'm "45 Dragoon")

Remember, if it's on the web, it must be true!!! (Big 'ol NOT!!!!!!!)

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com

BTW, I have an older (1999) '60 Army (Pietta) that I converted to 45C as well. It has the slow twist and is not the tack driver that the others are. Good enough for " close work" though.

 

[45 Dragoon]

OK,
I knew the twist rate was faster in the newer (last 4 yrs or so) C&B revolvers.
I personally checked the rate in a Walker. The 9" barrel gave a 1/2 rotation (which one can tell just by looking). That means 1 turn in 18 inches which is an acceptable rate for accurate conical bullet shooting ( such as 250 gr. LRNFP s loaded in a cartridge with smokless powder).
The Dragoons have the same rate.
The El Patron yielded what appears to be 1/3 turn in its 5 1/2" tube. So, it is safe to say it's at least 1: 18" but probably more like 1:16".

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com


These numbers were arrived at by observing a paper flag on the end of a rod with a chamber brush attached (to more positively engage the grooves).

 

[TruthTellers]

I just looked at the twist of my Remington and it does appear to be faster than 1:30" as it is closer to half a rotation thru 8" than a quarter a rotation.

PIETTA HAS SOLD BE A FALSE BILL OF GOODS! *harumpf*

 

[il.bill]

I just looked at the twist of my Remington and it does appear to be faster than 1:30" as it is closer to half a rotation thru 8" than a quarter a rotation.

PIETTA HAS SOLD BE A FALSE BILL OF GOODS! *harumpf*

Maybe the Italian made Piettas have a METRIC twist rate listed and that is why it looks different.



Sorry ... just couldn't resist that one