Celebrate April 19, Patriot's Day

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April 19 is celebrated as Patriot's Day. Some of the amazing things that have occurred on this date:

On April 19, 1775, the farmers and villagers of Lexington and Concord stood against the might of the British army and fired the first shots in the conflict on the road to independence.

On April 19, 1943, small bands of desperate Jews in the Warsaw ghetto, armed with a few dozen firearms and little experience in their use, decided to fight rather than submit to the Nazis' "final solution." They held off SS troops for weeks before they were defeated.

On April 19, 1993, the United States government sent military tanks against members of an unapproved religion. More than 80 people died from fire or poisonous gas, including two dozen children, for the alleged crime of failing to pay federal taxes on some firearms.

On April 19, 1995, someone bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Was it an angry ex-soldier and his friends, as the government claims? Or was it the government itself in a successful attempt to pass "counterterrorism" legislation? Whichever view you adopt, the bombing was a sign of the growing distrust between free Americans and the government caste.

In Massachusetts, April 19 is still celebrated as Patriot's Day in memory of the stand at Concord and Lexington. Unfortunately, that state's government has long forgotten the issues and significance of the thing it pretends to celebrate.

But you need not. April 19 is a day worth noting for many reasons. A good day for:
* sending cards
* writing letters to the editor
* holding rallies
* writing guest editorials
* conducting memorial celebrations
* reminding your anti-gun Jewish friends that armed defense is part of their history and religious teachings
* Renewing your own resolve never to give up or give in
* Simply remembering


And now, for a personal note. This April 19 happens to be my 51th birthday. So join me in celebrating American Independence!
Put yourself in the circumstances of those first American patriots; those who stood at Concorde Hill and Lexington. Private citizens who stood off an opressive government's attempt to take the citizen's shot and powder at a communal magazine. Open rebellion against the world's most powerful government! Don't forget our American spirit!

The first steps toward sweet freedom; American Style. The New World. Fought off the Indians, the French, and finally the British. We fought unconventionally; like no one ever had before. We lined the woods the Brits retreated upon. We shot from behind cover at the British, especially at their brightly colored officers. Americans were among the first guerillas. We fought for freedom!

If you find this boring, it's my fault. If you feel a better appreciation for American Independence, why "thank you" for considering my words. If I've awakened a better understanding of how audacious it was, the Americans opposing the British troops at Concorde and then at Lexington, the better we'll all remember the next April 19th. Long Live American Liberty!
 
Funny, lots of places around here (Billerica, MA) are closed tomorrow for Patriot's Day, the 18th... :confused:



EDIT Answered my own question...
Observed on the Third Monday in April
 
On April 19, 1995, someone bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Was it an angry ex-soldier and his friends, as the government claims? Or was it the government itself in a successful attempt to pass "counterterrorism" legislation? Whichever view you adopt, the bombing was a sign of the growing distrust between free Americans and the government caste.

It most emphatically was not a sign of that. It was a sign that we need to worry about terrorists from here as well as terrorists from there.

And you present a horrible false dichotomy. It was not an "angry ex-soldier and his friends," but a mass murderer and his accomplices. I get angry sometimes, but I don't kill people over it.

Whatever the case, they certainly were not patriots, and I shudder to see that incident included in this list.
 
On April 19, 1993, the United States government sent military tanks against members of an unapproved religion.

I've read an awful lot about waco and now I understand the motivations behind the various agencies and exactly how it became such a charlie-foxtrot. The quoted version above is sensationalist.

Was it an angry ex-soldier and his friends, as the government claims? Or was it the government itself in a successful attempt to pass "counterterrorism" legislation? Whichever view you adopt,

That argument uses a fallacy. Can anyone else spot it?
 
Backing up from the politics, or from drawings “lessons†from history, 19 April 1861 was the day some citizens in Baltimore Maryland rioted to try to stop pro-union States’ militias from Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and other places up north from traveling through Baltimore on their way to Washington DC, to answer President Lincoln’s call for troops to defend the capital from southern forces. One of the units (Massachusetts 6th?) to get through before the riot started was the direct descendent of the minuteman unit that stood at the old north bridge in Concord, Mass on April 19, 1775.

I don’t think that is anything but a coincidence, but maybe someone else would like to tie this into their grand Waco/OK city/evil US Government/UN blue helmets/space ray theory?
 
It was indeed the 6th Mass. Regiment

that was attacked by the mob in Baltimore, took casualties and returned fire. It was transiting between the C&O and B&O terminals at the time.

I will spend part of Patriots' Day at the range with my Garand and AR-15. ;)
 
Blackburn - I've also done extensive research on the Waco incident. I'd like to hear your opinion on the matter...

What did I do today? I took my final kanji test, my POLI 570 final, submitted an 18 page paper dealing with gun control, and gave a presentation on gun control in spite of being sabotaged with regards to my resources in the classroom. I did my duty.
 
A total screwup, but I doubt it was a conspiracy to eliminate "christians".
I guess I could summarize it in bullet points:


The need for an agency to get publicity and visibility in order to fight for their budgets.

Incompetence.

Putting on a show for the media.

Putting on WAY too big of a show for the media.

Doing stupid things. Doing stupider things.

Having it all go south.

Failure to recognize a situation that will not end well.

Denial. (We can win this, this is not a disaster)

And then lying way, way too much.
 
You forgot to mention the grenade casings found at the two of the fire origination points, the chemical reaction with the gas used in relation to fire, the FLIR footage of federal agents firing into the compound when people were running away from the fire, the Senate hearings footage of a pristine rifle that was supposedly recovered from the charred ruins of the "compound"....

But I digress. Budget justification has practically nothing to do with the situation. The need to justify the agency's existence, on the other hand...

To get this thread back on subject, did anyone else notice the inordinate amount of attention aimed at the Oklahoma City bombing vs. the practically non-existent mention of the Waco incident? I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, but I only heard one mention of Waco, versus at least 20 mentions of Oklahoma City on the radio today. Granted, I only listened to the radio for about 5 hours. I'm not detracting from the gravity of the Oklahoma bombing, I just think that the anniversary of the murder of over 75 men, women, and children warrants a little more air time.
 
On April 19, 1993, the United States government sent military tanks against members of an unapproved religion. More than 80 people died from fire or poisonous gas, including two dozen children, for the alleged crime of failing to pay federal taxes on some firearms.
Yup, they sure did die, from fires started by the minions of a lying lunatic who pledged to end the siege several times by surrendering, only to change his mind after his demands were met.. This can be clearly seen in film footage and forensic evidence.........but hey, what's a little truth when it comes to a whacko conspiracy?

On April 19, 1995, someone bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Was it an angry ex-soldier and his friends, as the government claims? Or was it the government itself in a successful attempt to pass "counterterrorism" legislation? Whichever view you adopt, the bombing was a sign of the growing distrust between free Americans and the government caste.[
Timothy McVeigh was a Patriot, huh? I guess that puts the Turner Diaries right up there with the Consttitution then, right? :rolleyes:
 
What really PO's me about Oklahoma City is that after the goverment caught Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols they stopped looking for everyone else. Read the book "The Third Terrorist." It deals with the facts that McVeigh and Nichols had help from individuals that are linked with current terror cells. Some of the individuals seen with McVeigh in the weeks leading up to the bombing were former Iraqi soldiers. Also Nichols made several trips to the Phillipines and was seen in the presence of the individuals associated with the first World Trade Center bombing and the plot to bomb airliners.
 
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Lexington and Concord I'll have no problem celebrating.
The Jews in Warsaw wan not in America so it's not an American incident (but they had a lot of guts)
The rest of your spout is not worth the mention. The celebrating of anything to do with a nutjob and a basketcase who marries 13 year olds is repugnant and unworthy of THR.
My opinion is only worth as much as yours.
 
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On April 19, 1995, someone bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Was it an angry ex-soldier and his friends, as the government claims? Or was it the government itself in a successful attempt to pass "counterterrorism" legislation? Whichever view you adopt, the bombing was a sign of the growing distrust between free Americans and the government caste.



It most emphatically was not a sign of that. It was a sign that we need to worry about terrorists from here as well as terrorists from there.

And you present a horrible false dichotomy. It was not an "angry ex-soldier and his friends," but a mass murderer and his accomplices. I get angry sometimes, but I don't kill people over it.

Whatever the case, they certainly were not patriots, and I shudder to see that incident included in this list.

Yeah, what he said.

And to add to it, if you want anyone to take you seriously it may be helpful if it doesn't appear you sympathize with terrorist, criminal, murdering scum.
 
April 19th, 1933 -- FDR announces that the US will leave the gold standard
April 19th, 1939 -- Connecticut finally approves Bill of Rights


Famous Birthdays:

April 19th, 1903 -- Eliot Ness
April 19th, 1946 -- Tim Curry
 
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