Center Point scopes any good??

[BruceGK]

A couple years ago, I jacked up my slick Moss 4x4 on a gravel trail. So, I decided to just go out and get an inexpensive rifle for deer hunting in TN. No real need for a sniper rifle here. Anyhow, I bought a Moss 100 ATR .30-06 from WalMart. The idea was to put my Nikon ProStaff on it, and head to the woods. However, a new gun needs a new scope, and my wife talked me into getting the Centre Point 4-16x40 until I had saved up enough for another Nikon.
I bought it, and didn't expect much, but when I got to the range I was very pleasantly suprised. This thing has alot of features, clear optics, and has held it's zero as well as any of my higher-end scopes. I ended up not even replacing it on the ATR as it suites my needs and then some.
A year or so after that I got bored (retired military) and got a job at WalMart. I went to work in the Sporting Goods department because of my knowledge of guns and such. Now, I worked at a store right outside Fort Campbell, KY and always had young joes coming in looking for an inexpensive setup for hunting around TN and KY. The gun I usually pushed the most was the ATR, and I always pointed them toward the Centre Point scopes. Inside of my 10 months at the store I had countless guys coming back to tell me how happy they were with the setup because of the value, and quality of both the rifle and scope.

My opinion: Get the scope. It's almost impossible to beat the quality that you get for that $70 price tag.

 

[shaman]

Wanna give another + to the centerpoint. For what is it, it is worth the money for the options it has. I also want to add to the ruggedness. I went hog hunting and brought the airgun(it has the scope). The guide was less than smooth when driving throught the mud and muck, and there were several times the gun got air. Probably a good foot or so. I was scared for the thing. Shot it, no loss of zero. It's a good scope, nothing else. It was clear, and the IR was decent at low powers. The include covers are a pain unless you leave some more room in the mounts for them vertically. I have the 4-16x40 from Walmart, and have considered another, or the 3-9 on a rimfire hunter.

 

[DasFriek]

I just bought a great Savage 93BTV .17hmr which i love and it came with a Bushnell sharpshooter 3-9x40 $30 scope, Love so much i stole my Nikon Buckmasters 3-9x40 off my S&W 15/22 .22 as i figured a .22 doesn't need such a decent scope. What i didn't count on was how much i hate the Bushnell.
Ive been to the range twice now and still cant get a comfortable eye relief and sight picture worth a darn. But it will shoot great groups, But its like driving a Yugo and being 6'4" and 300lbs. You will get where your going but cuss the whole way.
Im going to Walmart and buying the Adventure Class 3-9x40mm when i get paid.
If that don't fix the issue ill take it back and buy another Nikon.

Here's the kicker, I expect alot more for my money than a $70 scope. Maybe thats wrong, But the Internet tough me a few things. Great porn is always free, And if you research stuff enough you can get great products for a low price.

For me the illuminated reticles will be great as at times ive been having issues with the scope cross hairs fading out and becoming out of focus in bright daylight.

I don't expect it to make me want to sell my Nikon, But i do expect it to make me like it just as much.
My Bushnell can then be duct taped to a pole and its last shots it ever sees will be the most comfortable shots it ever gave me

 

[jpwilly]

I posted back in Dec 2007 in this same thread.

I now have 2 Centerpoint 4-16x40mm scopes from Wally Word and one Red Dot. The first one I purchase on my budget 30-06 Mossberg ATR is still going strong and the combo shoots very well.

My newest rifle a Savage 10 308 is wearing the second unit. I just replaced the tall OEM rings with Steel Medium rings but otherwise this scope has been just a good as the first one. When I took the old rings off I found the front scope was loose! The rifle was still shooting under 1" at 100yards. Can't wait to find out how it will shoot now.

These scopes offer a lot for only $70!

 

[G27RR]

I have four of them on various rimfires. Are they as good as my Nikon Monarchs, Bushnell Elite 4200s, or Redfield? No, but the closest one of those comes is 2-3 times the price. I don't know how they hold up to centerfires, but I think they are great to put onto a $100-$300 rimfire.

 

[JEB]

ive had mine on my 30-30 for two years of deer hunting. its very clear and has never lost its zero. for $50 you will not be able to beat it.

dont listen to people who give reviews and advice on a product they have never even held!

 

[basalt]

This sold me on such a crappy scope: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEvU_ClXLOw

So far I love mine on my Roger 10/17. The eye relief is the worst part. Other than that its a great scope for what it is. It is actually much brighter than the Leupold VariX-III on my Rem 700 DBL in 22-250, but doesn't handle glare as well. It has a bunch of great features and for what I use my rifles for (fun), it would be stupid to spend 1x-3x the cost of my rifle on optics. If it ever turns up defective I'll take it back, or get 5 more and still not have spent as much as my Leu. cost.

no, the quality doesn't compare to the VX-III, but function wise it works just fine.

 

[NSP64]

I bought my 4x16x40 Center Point scope in jan 2008 ($49.00 on after Christmas closeout) To go on a .270 win Husky I bought from an estate auction for $165.00 (had an old repair to the wrist part of the stock). We can't deer hunt with rifles in ILL, so I was just using it to plink with. I started downloading ammo for use as maybe Coyote loads (26gr of 4227 under 150gr spitzer bullet was getting 2100 fps and 3/8" groups @ 100 yrds.) I accidentally double charged a shell and that was the end of the Husky
Blew the case apart, split the stock into 4 pieces, broke the bolt, sent the extractor into orbit. So I decided to get a varmit rifle, new Stevens 200 in .223 rem. Bolted the Centerpoint on to the rifle adjusted windage 6 clicks and zeroed. I am sure getting my moneys worth out of this scope.

 

[godsey5]

I have one on my Savage 110 tactical until I can afford better glass. It is a good scope FOR THE MONEY. After zeroing I set the locking rings in the turrets. I was deer hunting i my stand. A old flat bed trailer. I stepped of the trailer to take a leak, and it shifted and my 10fp took a spill landing on the scope. I checked zero and it was dead on and I dropped a deer with it at dusk that evening. The illuminated reticule was too bright at dusk and washed out my sight picture, not a big deal. But I was very impressed for the money. When I get some more loads worked up I will take it out and run the box test on it. It is a good budget scope. My opinion YMMV.

JIm

 

[officer cool]

i have 2 of the centerpoint scopes one on a 308 and one on a 7mm magnum. both have gone through months of pretty hard shooting and are still holding on perfectly tight. they are perfecly capable of 300 yd shooting since i was picking off spray paint cans with ease from that distance last week. this week i hope to shoot them to 450 and see how they do. overall great scopes!!!

 

[sscoyote]

Does anybody know what power the mil-dot is calibrated for in the higher end variables (4-16x+)? They probably just make one reticle for all the higher end variables and set it at 1 power--typically. Can someone tell me if there is an indicator mark on the power ring for milling purposes? Thks.!

 

[mickeydim468]

You need to set the 4-16X40 Adventure class scope to 10X magnifications per the instructions. The 3-9X32 or X40 needs to be set to 9X. This should all be on the chart that came with the scope. Ther is a separate paper in there explaining all of this. Otherwise I am sure they will have it on the Crossman web site.

BTW, I have 2 of these scopes too. I have also had a few I returned. The only ones I returned were the 3-9X32 model that I had on a .243. Not excessive kick, but the scope would not hold zero from one range trip to another. I would have to spend 10 to 15 minutes at the beginning of the range trip to zero the scope and the rest of the visit chasing the zero. I finally took that back for a couple of new ones and they did the same. Then I just went ahead and got the beefier Adventure class 4-16X40 and never looked back. I liked that scope so much I bought another for my 30-06. It shoots great with that scope. When I got my 300 Win Mag, I didn't have the cash for another scope, so I put the one from the 30-06 on the new rifle and took it out to the range. It zeroed after a few rounds and held zero even under the recoil of the beefy 300Winny. I ended up putting it back on my 30-06 and bought a Nikon for the 300, not because I didn't like the CenterPoint scope, but because I wanted to try out the BDC reticle on the Nikon. I got the 3-9X40 ProStaff model, and I am happy with that scope too. In comparing the glass between the Nikon and the CenterPoint, I would have to say that the Nikon is a tiny bit crisper at low light, but the extra magnification on the otrher scope makes up for it. If I practiced enough with the CP scope I wouldn't meed the BDC reticle, but the BDC reticle works, and it is just COOL! I love this stuff!

Mike

 

[sscoyote]

Just picked 1 up at Wal-Mart and have to admit i was a bit surprised to see that it looked so good. Gonna' put it on top of my AR and shoot a few prairie dogs with it/maybe coyotes next season for a review somewhere. Good positive clicks (compared to some more expensive optics i've used), and i really like the fact that there are 7 mils in all 4 quadrants from center. The paper that comes with it does say 10x calibration which means that at 16x it shoud be about 2.25 inch per hundred yds. between dots and dot subtension should be about 0.5" instead of the mil-std. ~.75" (assuming they're 0.2 mil-dots). Total vertical reticle compensation at 16x should ~15 MOA from center axis. Good clear focus edge to edge. Might be just right for the longer-range small target crowd...like me. Looks like about 63 MOA from stop to stop on the elevation turret. Just checked parallax at about 70 yds. and it worked!! ZOWWEE!

 

[russellcframe]

I just came back from the range where I tested out a brand new CenterPoint 4-16x40 on my old Remington 700 .308. This rifle has worn a low-end Bushnell 3-9 for many years and has killed moose, elk, bear, and plenty of deer. I considered the CP scope expecting it to be brighter, have more zoom, and I wanted to try a mildot reticle, the target turrets would be novelty but fun to play with.

I bought the scope yesterday and mounted it. I was impressed with the overall build and clarity just messing around at home. I did have to remove the rear sight on the Remington as the objective was rubbing on it with 1" rings...this bothers me a bit as I do like backup iron sights (having a back-country hunt ruined just by dropping a rifle and breaking a scope is not cool). As I was clicking through the elevation adjustments I noticed that about 1/4 of the range it was clicking but the reticle was not moving. No big deal, it's a cheap scope so I'm not expecting excellent quality control so I just run back to Walmart and exchange it for another. Drove from there to the range and installed the new scope there. I dialed it dead on at 25 with two shots, then 50 yards, then moved to the 100 yard range. I corrected the first shot at 100 by counting the expected 1/4 clicks and it was right on. The next three were all dead on. I zoomed to 17x and while it was noticeably darker I think it was still brighter than the old beat up Bushnell was on 9x. No change to POI at the higher zoom that I could notice. Moved out to 200 and thought "hey it looks fuzzy"...well duh it's AO and I just wasn't thinking, a slight twist of the objective end and it was a nice clear picture and I could see the target grid nicely. I decided to click in the range adjustment but wasn't thinking and doubled the correction...boom 5" high, right where I unintentionally told it to hit. Clicked back down to zero and shot 100 again, still looking good. I didn't shoot any further out this session and I'm not sure how much elevation adjustment range I have available after getting things zero'd, will have to see as I play with it some more. Like I said before I dont know that I'll normally use the target turrets for range adjustment but having the mildots is pretty cool and much better than the guessing game I had before.

Sun was well set by the time I finished and still had a very usable brightness even on 17x.

That was only 25 rounds of .308 but my first impression is very positive. It is a cheap Chinese scope that seems to be strong, the clarity is totally acceptable for my needs, and the features all seem to do what they are supposed to. I realize I have low standards, but I shoot for fun and cannot justify high dollar items if something lower cost will meet my needs/wants reliably. We'll see how it goes over the next couple months. As it is I'm confident enough to carry it on one or two short bear hunts this coming weekend. Your mileage may vary ;o)

 

[armoredman]

I am supposedly getting a Center Point soon from a friend, a 3-9 version, don't know much more, hopefully it will work better for me than the cheap POS Simmons I took back to WalMart yesterday. be mounted on my CZ 527 7.62x39, which I want to see just what kind of accuracy I can get from it at 200-300 yard range.

 

[sscoyote]

I'll get a chance to test mine tomorrow in the field out to 700 yds. hoping for little wind. Have the reticle calcd. to 700 yds. using 2.25 inch per hundred yds. between dots assuming that's correct for 16x-we'll see. Will check glass quality/parallax as much as possible in the field and turret calc., and repeatability as well as reticle. Should be fun. Will give a thorough report tomorrow.

 

[Heavy Metal]

I had a Centerpoint Scope 4x16 from wally world on my REM CDL SF 30-06 cost me @70 dollars... long story short my rifle once zeroed in shot a 1/4 inch grouping and did not even fine tune it all the way once got several 1/4 inch groupings I quit...

 

[sscoyote]

So far mine's working out great. Zeroed it at 225 in 2 shots from bore sighting on a 12" gong. Then moved out to 425 (2.4 2.25 mil units for my load), and shot 3 shots in < MOA 2 different shooters dead center on the 18" gong. That was a week ago. Will check to see if it holds zero as soon as the wind lets up.

 

[sscoyote]

Can't tell if the gun's shooting off or the optic, but the bullet impacted 2" low at 200 today after zeroing at 225 2 weeks ago. Gotta clean it, before next trip out--oh well. Did have fun using the optic to calculate how far off a buddy missed a rock at 1040 though. He had 32 MOA into his scope and then, when he missed high i noted that the bullet impacted right at 1 mil (2.25 IPHY @ 16x) high. So he was X x 100 / 2.25 / 1.0 = 1040, X=23" Told him to lower elevation by 2 minutes, and he almost hit the rock. That was kinda fun.

 

[pahunter1957]

Centerpoint & BSA

I would not recommend a Centerpoint scope to anyone. I've had two that came on pellet guns and couldn't sight either one in. I switched them out with Bushnells and in 20 minutes I was hitting dead center. As far as the Centerpoints, they went in the trash.

I have Bushnells on a number of other rifles and they are very accurate. A good scope at a reasonable price. I would recommend them.

As for the BSA scopes I have on on a .223 Savage that I purchased new two years ago and it hits dead center at 100 yards. Maybe its the model that you purchased but mine is as accurate as accurate can get.

 

[JTW Jr.]

My experience has been the opposite , 3 BSA scopes , all turned to junk in under a half year each ( though one was ready for the trash can out of the box ) , but the Centerpoint has been reliable for almost two years with plenty of shooting.

Reliable enuff that I can write down settings for one ammo , adjust for another and return to first settings and be dead on again ( assuming I remember to count clicks ).

--With that said , for a bit more , I will take the Mueller APV any day.

 

[RJR573]

I've got two and am very happy with them

Had two for about a year now and put lots of rounds downrange with them attached. Had them on several rifles including a 10/22, .308 bolt action, .308 semi-auto, 30-06, 7.62x54R, and 8mm too.

Very clear and holds zero well.

It is made in China and says so on the bottom under the turrets. I have no problem with that and know some stuff from China & Japan is cheap junk but not everything. I wonder if the countries that we think make junk think the same about products "Made in America" ??

I have bought plenty American made items that did not work well or last a long time.

 

[tommyintx]

Me and two good shooting friends have about ten combined, only the 4-16x though. We haven't tried the 3-9. Nothing recoiling harder than a .308 full house load though.. But they all hold zero, have good repeatability, and pretty nice build quality and clarity. However, the battery runs out FAST on the illuminated reticle.. and the green is HARD on the eyes.

 

[warrenco844]

Centerpoint 4x16x40

I bought one last year for my .50cal muzzleloader & sighted it in @ 100 yds without any problems. I'm using 100gr of Pyrodex & have probably shot it 20 times & it's still holding zero. It took 3 shots from a rest to get it where I wanted it & I acquired a 2 1/2 in group @ 100 yds. Not bad for a muzzleloader & a $70 scope. I love mine & if it can hold zero with a black powder rifle then a rimfire won't be a problem.

 

[Hot brass]

Friend and I just bought 2 CP`s.