Democrats paid after the AWB passed.
Let's see a repeat. The national folks remember, but these local folks seem new to the concept.
Let's see a repeat. The national folks remember, but these local folks seem new to the concept.
Excuse me, but were you paying attention as ***NY STATE*** just passed the most restrictive gun laws in the country???Excuse me, but were you paying attention as NY state just passed the most restrictive gun laws in the country?
Yes, because what happened there could never, ever, in a million years happen in other states.Excuse me, but were you paying attention as ***NY STATE*** just passed the most restrictive gun laws in the country???
What part of ***NY STATE*** did you miss???
It's ***NY STATE***!!! What did you EXPECT???
In OHIO (to name one of MANY), we couldn't care LESS what they do in ***NY STATE***.
We're not going to get stampeded into sham "compromise" because of ANYTHING they do in a place that amounts to Venezuela with snow.
yeah I don't see any repercussions for gun grabbing in the mid-terms only because the fiscal issues we face are still going to affect more citizens, we'll have more people on the dole and the Dems make all the promises that folks want to hear.Democrats paid after the AWB passed.
Let's see a repeat. The national folks remember, but these local folks seem new to the concept.
yeah I don't see any repercussions for gun grabbing in the mid-terms only because the fiscal issues we face are still going to affect more citizens, we'll have more people on the dole and the Dems make all the promises that folks want to hear.
Support you State groups and politicians who'll stand for RKBA and if your State passes laws that infringe you'll have some real soul searching to do.
The same people propose the same legislation, just about every year.I grant you, it won't pass the legislature there, but the point is that in the current climate, politicians feel safe in coming out openly in support of gun control measures they would have run screaming from a year ago.
Where did you get these numbers?Last 14 years, 1 million people rejected after background checks (1% of all checks):
578,000 felons
143,852 domestic violence/stalking convictions
81,000 drug addicts
12,000 illegal immigrants
10,180 mentally ill
"It's working" pretty d*** well, I'd say, and should be required for every transaction to weed out even MORE bad guys.
You cannot use the excuse of "it didn't prevent these mass murders" as your reason to oppose universal background checks. The above figures show it is working very well, and should be expanded wherever possible. Private sales, family transfers, gun shows (esp.), everywhere. Make me sleep sounder at night knowing there are 1 million fewer bad people with firearms in America, maybe right around the corner from my house...
How many were convicted because of the BC? I will answer that for you, 14.Last 14 years, 1 million people rejected after background checks (1% of all checks):
578,000 felons
143,852 domestic violence/stalking convictions
81,000 drug addicts
12,000 illegal immigrants
10,180 mentally ill
"It's working" pretty d*** well, I'd say, and should be required for every transaction to weed out even MORE bad guys.
You cannot use the excuse of "it didn't prevent these mass murders" as your reason to oppose universal background checks. The above figures show it is working very well, and should be expanded wherever possible. Private sales, family transfers, gun shows (esp.), everywhere. Make me sleep sounder at night knowing there are 1 million fewer bad people with firearms in America, maybe right around the corner from my house...
I have to disagree, everyone should care about what happens in other states. As what prevails on those places can very well become law in the nation. Remember, complacency kills.Excuse me, but were you paying attention as ***NY STATE*** just passed the most restrictive gun laws in the country???
What part of ***NY STATE*** did you miss???
It's ***NY STATE***!!! What did you EXPECT???
In OHIO (to name one of MANY), we couldn't care LESS what they do in ***NY STATE***.
We're not going to get stampeded into sham "compromise" because of ANYTHING they do in a place that amounts to Venezuela with snow.
but problems that supporters are either ignorant enough to not notice, or just not care about. these bills are not to prevent crime, they are to lessen gun ownership. the way they see it, if you cant get to an ffl then thats fine. it means you cant transfer your firearms.The whole proposal is fraught with problems.
TBH, no one can claim ignorance. Obama has said it, printed and espouses it daily that he wants to disarm Americans. He was saying in college how he does not believe in the 2A and most of the BoR or the Constitution. Read the book by Ed Klein or even read Obama's own book. It is on record about how and what he is willing to do to propagate his anti-colonialism views.but problems that supporters are either ignorant enough to not notice, or just not care about. these bills are not to prevent crime, they are to lessen gun ownership. the way they see it, if you cant get to an ffl then thats fine. it means you cant transfer your firearms.
Originally Posted by ACP
Last 14 years, 1 million people rejected after background checks (1% of all checks):
578,000 felons
143,852 domestic violence/stalking convictions
81,000 drug addicts
12,000 illegal immigrants
10,180 mentally ill
"It's working" pretty d*** well, I'd say, and should be required for every transaction to weed out even MORE bad guys.
You cannot use the excuse of "it didn't prevent these mass murders" as your reason to oppose universal background checks. The above figures show it is working very well, and should be expanded wherever possible. Private sales, family transfers, gun shows (esp.), everywhere. Make me sleep sounder at night knowing there are 1 million fewer bad people with firearms in America, maybe right around the corner from my house...