charles daly semi auto
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olav_a
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I saw the t.v. movie Sharpshooter and one of the guys protecting the main guy that is buying nuclear weapons had one. It seemed to work pretty well.
I knew it was a CD because I tivoed the movie and freeze framed it on the gun scene where I could clearly read "Charles Daly"
Hope this helps...
I knew it was a CD because I tivoed the movie and freeze framed it on the gun scene where I could clearly read "Charles Daly"
Hope this helps...
RNB65
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The CD's sold at Wally World? A buddy of mine has two and both are jam-o-matics using Fed/Win/Rem bulk pack ammo. I'm not sure how they'd do with brass ammo.
Be aware that the slide release button is on the wrong side (lower left) of the receiver. Makes loading a bit awkward.
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Be aware that the slide release button is on the wrong side (lower left) of the receiver. Makes loading a bit awkward.
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RNB65
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Both. He bought a new one locally and a used one on one of the gun auction sites. Both are well past 500rnds and both are still jammers.
I suggest looking for an 870 pump or a used 1100 instead. I think you'll have a lot less trouble.
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MAX100
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Take a look at the H&R Excel Auto 5. I have one and it has never jam and it will cycle light loads other shotguns won"t. It has a dual gas cylinder. One end of the cylinder you can shoot light, standard and heavy loads. You flip the cylinder over and it is for heavy and 3" mag loads for less felt recoil. It is a very tight and light gun. The recoil is mild compared to other shotguns. Mine never needed a break in period it was reliable from the get go. It looks like a Franchi. Comes in a wood or a synthetic stock. I hear the Legacy autos are excellent also.
This shotgun was once marketed under the Verona Model SX 405 name. Now H&R has them. The Verona shotguns have quite of following. Many happy customers.
Here is a picture of the H&R Excel Auto 5. It comes with 4 choke tubes.
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This shotgun was once marketed under the Verona Model SX 405 name. Now H&R has them. The Verona shotguns have quite of following. Many happy customers.
Here is a picture of the H&R Excel Auto 5. It comes with 4 choke tubes.
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MAX100
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You will love it. It is a very solid gun yet lightweight. It is the most reliable semi auto shotgun I have ever fired. I believe it is a steal for around $350. Tell us what you think when you get it.
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chas08
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That HR Excel Auto Five is a nice looking gun. I'm in the market for a gas operated 12. Mainly for ducks. I'm asuming it has interchangeable chokes.
MAX100
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They come with 4 choke tubes. The Excel Auto 5 is the same shotgun as the Verona SX 405. H&R has their name on them now. The Verona shotguns have quite a following. Many love them.
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Snarlingiron
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I bought a Stoeger M2000 a few weeks ago. I have put ~350 rounds through it at the skeet range, and no problems. Bought it ad Dick's for $399.00, came with 5 chokes including an extended extra full Turkey. I love it. Hard to beat for the money. A little more recoil than a gas gun, but not bad at all.
chas08
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I found the HR Excel A-5 at Able Ammo for $370.00 in wood and $418.00 in synthetic. The only thing that bothers me is it listed the weight of the wood model at 9+ lbs. and the synthetic at 7+ lbs. Could that be right? I know that synthetic is way more forgiving in the world of waterfowling, but I like wood. "Even Ugly wood is Purtier than Purty Plastic"
MAX100
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On H&R website they have the walnut Auto 5 listed at 7 lbs. They have aluminum receiver, mag tube and a plastic trigger guard.
H&R Excel Auto 5 website Link:
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Shotguns/excell.aspx
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H&R Excel Auto 5 website Link:
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Shotguns/excell.aspx
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Charles Daly
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Just a little FYI, some of our 12 gauge semi-autos are made in the same factory (same internals) as the H&R Excel. We needed additional capacity and this maker was kind enough to give us some of his production when we needed it.
MCgunner
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I've been thinking auto with 3" capacity for waterfowling. Wallyworld never has a camo finish model which I'd prefer. But, I've been thinking a lot about the Mossberg 935, 3" and 3.5" capable. I already have a Winchester 1400 in 2 3/4" that I like a lot. I've looked the Daly over at Wallyworld several times. I like the price. I reckon it'd cycle 3" steel or heavy shot better than that bargain shelf Winchester dove load crap. That stuff hangs up in my Winchester now and then, just ain't got enough umph. I shoot the high speed 1 ounce stuff pretty trouble free, but the 7/8 ounce, forget it. It never bobbles on steel loads, though.
I'll probably keep using my Mossberg pump for geese and switch to the Winchester for ducks when I just want to. Did that last season. I do love shootin' that Winchester, so soft on the shoulder. It FLOORS 'em way out there with Winchester 2 3/4" 1550 fps Xpert hi speeds in 3 shot, 1 1?16 ounce. I don't shoot geese all that often, so the Mossy is really all I need for that, just stock up on some Hevi Shot for the few hunts every season. If I had a 3.5" gun, I might not even use the 3.5" loads.
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I'll probably keep using my Mossberg pump for geese and switch to the Winchester for ducks when I just want to. Did that last season. I do love shootin' that Winchester, so soft on the shoulder. It FLOORS 'em way out there with Winchester 2 3/4" 1550 fps Xpert hi speeds in 3 shot, 1 1?16 ounce. I don't shoot geese all that often, so the Mossy is really all I need for that, just stock up on some Hevi Shot for the few hunts every season. If I had a 3.5" gun, I might not even use the 3.5" loads.
.hey mcgunner chack this out http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=92256110
remington makes the same excact gun but they call it the spartan (remington bouhgt out baikal a few years ago) its 3.5" (i dont need 3.5 i mostly shoot light loads) also watch this why i thought about getting one. http://youtube.com/watch?v=--GbVKwDfNU
remington makes the same excact gun but they call it the spartan (remington bouhgt out baikal a few years ago) its 3.5" (i dont need 3.5 i mostly shoot light loads) also watch this why i thought about getting one. http://youtube.com/watch?v=--GbVKwDfNU
MCgunner
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Yes, I've also considered the Remington Spartan 453. Guys on a duck hunting site I've been to talk real good about it and it's affordable.
I don't know that Remington "bought out" Baikal in so much as they made an importation agreement with Baikal. I have a little Spartan double I bought I really like in 20 gauge.
I don't know that Remington "bought out" Baikal in so much as they made an importation agreement with Baikal. I have a little Spartan double I bought I really like in 20 gauge.
Turkey Obsessed
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Jammin' Dalys and H&R Excells
Hey guys. I am new to this forum, but maybe I can offer some advice? I have a Daly Field 12ga. and it has never jammed using standard target loads (7/8 oz). I have tried to make it jam because I heard they had a reputation for that. I can honestly say I have yet to have an issue. There are two things I don't like about the gun, however. It took a lot (a LOT) of rather expensive turkey load ammo to properly pattern for turkey hunts. I found that it tends to group really well with an extra full choke, but waaay off to the left of the bead. The second turkey I took last Spring, I was holding over about 3" high and about 3" to the right to get a clean kill. So, my actual "sight picture" was something like you would see when leading ahead to kill a fast flying duck. The second thing I do not like is loading it..... it's a bit of a chore. Some Rems and other more expensive guns are easier to load- esp. in a hurry. Overall, it is OK, but I have no idea why it is so inaccurate- even for a shotgun. But it did prompt me to buy an H&R single shot turkey gun chambered in 3.5".
I spent about three minutes patterning the H&R. It is dead on at 40 yards. Put the bead on the neck of the bird and you have instant Thanksgiving. I shot two birds this past fall, one at a fairly long 60 yard punt- I would not normally take a shot like that, but I was eager to see real world results in a longer than average shot. I dropped the bird quickly and was amazed that the majority of the hits were head and neck still with a fixed full choke. The second bird was at a silly 15 foot distance from me. I made some assembly calls and was surprised to hear movement behind me......I slowly looked over my shoulder to find 12 turkeys glistening in the late afternoon sunshine. Jakes, jennies, an old hen and a "super-jake" that turned out to be my target. He was 17 pounds, had a 9" beard but still had juvenile feathers.
To sum this all up, I love H&R. My first shotgun was a .410 that my father bought for me at 15. I still use it for clays and small game. H&R has the "barrel accessory program" where you can buy barrels to interchange with any of the "SB1" receivers, and they have a long, reputable history. You can get a muzzle-loading barrel, slug barrel and different size shotgun barrels all for the same action. Kind of like the TC Encore or Pro-Hunter, but at a fraction of the cost. You send your receiver in and they machine match a barrel of your choice. Most barrels are less than $100. Pretty sweet deal.
I like my Daly for general target shooting, but don't trust it in the field. Even though it says "Field" on it. Too inaccurate to use when you have a split second shot to take. Besides, I prefer the one-shot-drop.
I have not fired an Excell yet, but handled one at Gander. It feels stout, which I like in a shotgun (less felt recoil with a heavier gun) and it is really well made. Really well. I may end up buying one to replace my Daly....if I can find a buyer.
Hey guys. I am new to this forum, but maybe I can offer some advice? I have a Daly Field 12ga. and it has never jammed using standard target loads (7/8 oz). I have tried to make it jam because I heard they had a reputation for that. I can honestly say I have yet to have an issue. There are two things I don't like about the gun, however. It took a lot (a LOT) of rather expensive turkey load ammo to properly pattern for turkey hunts. I found that it tends to group really well with an extra full choke, but waaay off to the left of the bead. The second turkey I took last Spring, I was holding over about 3" high and about 3" to the right to get a clean kill. So, my actual "sight picture" was something like you would see when leading ahead to kill a fast flying duck. The second thing I do not like is loading it..... it's a bit of a chore. Some Rems and other more expensive guns are easier to load- esp. in a hurry. Overall, it is OK, but I have no idea why it is so inaccurate- even for a shotgun. But it did prompt me to buy an H&R single shot turkey gun chambered in 3.5".
I spent about three minutes patterning the H&R. It is dead on at 40 yards. Put the bead on the neck of the bird and you have instant Thanksgiving. I shot two birds this past fall, one at a fairly long 60 yard punt- I would not normally take a shot like that, but I was eager to see real world results in a longer than average shot. I dropped the bird quickly and was amazed that the majority of the hits were head and neck still with a fixed full choke. The second bird was at a silly 15 foot distance from me. I made some assembly calls and was surprised to hear movement behind me......I slowly looked over my shoulder to find 12 turkeys glistening in the late afternoon sunshine. Jakes, jennies, an old hen and a "super-jake" that turned out to be my target. He was 17 pounds, had a 9" beard but still had juvenile feathers.
To sum this all up, I love H&R. My first shotgun was a .410 that my father bought for me at 15. I still use it for clays and small game. H&R has the "barrel accessory program" where you can buy barrels to interchange with any of the "SB1" receivers, and they have a long, reputable history. You can get a muzzle-loading barrel, slug barrel and different size shotgun barrels all for the same action. Kind of like the TC Encore or Pro-Hunter, but at a fraction of the cost. You send your receiver in and they machine match a barrel of your choice. Most barrels are less than $100. Pretty sweet deal.
I like my Daly for general target shooting, but don't trust it in the field. Even though it says "Field" on it. Too inaccurate to use when you have a split second shot to take. Besides, I prefer the one-shot-drop.
I have not fired an Excell yet, but handled one at Gander. It feels stout, which I like in a shotgun (less felt recoil with a heavier gun) and it is really well made. Really well. I may end up buying one to replace my Daly....if I can find a buyer.
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