Cheap AR -- Buy a new low-end, or wait for someone to panic-sell?

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Problem with a panic buyer selling off their rifle is they want to recoup most of their investment. The $800 rifle they bought for $1800 is probably gathering dust while the seller tries to wheel and deal it away at $1500.

Buy a new one off the shelf, prices are low enough to justify the new purchase. But they won't always be so low.
 
Low End Definition

You can get the S&W M&P15Sport for about $600. It has no dust cover and no forward assist. All else, including fit and finish, it top shelf. Not exactly low end but yet not expensive.
 
Buy NIB. You never know what someone else is selling to you without a thorough range test with YOU shooting.
 
If you don't buy one of the discount-priced ones now, you won't make as much when it's time to sell in the middle of the next panic. :evil:
 
Right now, you can put together a very high quality AR for a budget price.

This right here: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/8555/

Plus this right here: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/1213/category/4282/

And you're at $535 plus shipping and transfer fee for a rifle with a 4150 chrome lined 1/7 twist HPT/MPI barrel with mid-length gas and C158 HPT/MPI bolt. If you look, you'll see thise are the same specs and materials as the high-end guns like Colt, BCM, Daniel Defense, etc... for less than what most low-end "budget" rifles cost. With PSA's prices and quality, I don't know why anybody buys low-end ARs anymore. Sure some folks don't NEED the reliability and assurance that comes with mil spec materials and testing... but when you can have it for the same or less money than a rifle that doesn't have it, why not?
 
You can buy a Colt 6920 for HALF of what they were selling for in early 2009.

Prices have gone up and down from a variety of factors but right now is a great time to buy one.
 
I've seen an ad for a new Anderson AM15-MSR. I'm not finding out a lot about them--are they any good? Would you spend $500 on a new one?

Or would it be worth an extra hundred bucks for something like a Bushmaster?

Thanks for all the replies!
 
Anderson makes a lot of bits for others, and finally decided a while back to offer stuff under their own name. From all appearances, it's decent stuff.
 
Just bought a Rock River 16" varmint for 865 new. I thought that was pretty good for a varmint stainless with a good trigger.
 
This is a serious buyer's market right now. You can get outstanding value.

IMO if you want to get a GOOD rifle at a great price right now...

Colt 6920 for <$900 from grab a gun (or the 6720 at PSA)
Build a BCM using their free BCG w/upper deal
Find a good price on a Spikes Tactical
Find a good price on a S&W M&P 15

Just my opinion/experience here...but I wouldn't dream of spending the same money on an RRA or Anderson or Windham or whatever as you can spend on a Colt or BCM or Spikes or S&W M&P
 
Not to long ago I bought my first AR since prices were down, so that's what I would do. They will go back up. What I've really been buying is the $60 AK drum mags. :D they were hundreds not to long ago.
 
Buy the colt and I think you get a new Carhartt jacket with a Colt Logo. I know its no big deal but I always look at the gun rebates. I think FN is offering a $125.00 rebate. I saw some new ones on sale at KY Gun Co for around $850, so $725 isn't a bad deal for the FN. I have read where some people say they are not as good as the Colt, but in my experience FN does not make junk. If my budget was at around $900 I would get a colt for the resale value. I just wish they still put the carry handle on it instead of plastic flip up rear sight. Below the Colt and FN price range I'd say the PSA is without a doubt the best buy. I use to shop used guns but I've noticed in the past few years many of them have been shot to death since shooting has gotten more popular. I always inspect a used gun for wear before buying. If I can only save $100-$150 bucks I would just as soon buy new. There are some people that sink a bunch of money into new ARs with accessories and never shoot them. If you won't all of the accessories you can probably find a good deal. One of my neighbors has a son that is about 21 and he bought a new DPMS (whatever the new lighter model is) in .308, added a bunch of junk and an eotech and sold it all to another neighbor for $1100 when he got hard up for cash. He had never even fired it, and probably had 1800 in all of the stuff. You can find good used guns if you know the seller.
 
I have owned and shopped for AR's since 2003 and this is by far the best time. I bought a stock Olympic Arms in 2003 for $720. Today I am building premium PSA or RRA's exactly as I want for much less....
 
PSA just started selling a HPT/MPI full auto BCG plus charging handle for $100, and $135 for a stripped lower plus parts kit with overmolded grip. If you buy every time you see deals like that, before too long you will have a real nice AR for 4 or 500 bucks... even if you don't want to keep it you can probably take it to a gun show and make $300 or so. You just can't go wrong with the kind of prices we're seeing right now. Black Friday this year is going to be siiick. :)
 
Buy now. Buy a stripped lower or two for $40 or $50 each too while you're at it.

Worth noting with the PSA rifles is that most seem to use Mil-spec DIAMETER receiver extensions (buffer tube), but they're not made of the same material. I'm sure a PSA would be a decent rifle as is, just know what you're buying.
 
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This is a serious buyer's market right now. You can get outstanding value.

IMO if you want to get a GOOD rifle at a great price right now...

Colt 6920 for <$900 from grab a gun (or the 6720 at PSA)
Build a BCM using their free BCG w/upper deal
Find a good price on a Spikes Tactical
Find a good price on a S&W M&P 15

Just my opinion/experience here...but I wouldn't dream of spending the same money on an RRA or Anderson or Windham or whatever as you can spend on a Colt or BCM or Spikes or S&W M&P
Warp speaks the truth, I have NIB Colts in the shop right now for $800. Colt's competition rifles are going cheap too.

I really like to steer new AR people to build their own from quality parts. Because its so easy to do and makes people research. Knowing the ends and outs of your AR is a win win, you get to be personally vetted into your firearm and really get to know the plat form. You also gain the knowledge and can help educate people on the platform. Shared knowledge is power.

I recently got a Daniel Defense M4A1 SOCOM for $1099 dealer cost closest thing you can get to the military's SOPMOD Block II out of the box.

It's a buyer market, buy high quality and you'll never regret it.
 
I think you can do well in the current market, because ARs and parts are superfluous. The beauty of the AR is that anyone can put one together. The biggest problem with buying a used AR is that anyone can put one together.

When buying used, try to get as much information as possible. Your first question should be whether or not the complete rifle is a factory build, or if it is a complete home-build, or if the upper was bought as a complete, with the lower built at home, etc. If you are looking at a home-build, you should ask what parts were used to build the rifle.

Me, personally, if someone tells me they used a no-name parts kit, or a DPMS parts kit, then I automatically fast-forward to me replacing those parts with better components out of my own pocket. If they tell me that they themselves built the upper then I will poke and prod a little more to make sure they know what they are doing.

I'm just tossing out that warning because I feel it it something worthy of consideration when looking for a good rifle at a good price. I have purchased a complete upper from Palmetto State Armory, who may revere, only to receive something that wasn't assembled with a a suitable level of knowledge and/or care. When I shared this information, members here chastised me for it, even demanding that I list part numbers, but the proof is in the pudding.

For these reasons, my usual answer to someone looking for an AR carbine in the current market is to go cough up $1k and buy a Colt 6920 at Wal-Mart or a local (& competitive) store. You think you want a cheap, entry-level rifle, but once you're more familiar with it, you'll realize that this format is one heckuva emergency rifle. Once you've acknowledged that, you might regret buying a lesser, questionable rifle just to save $200. On the other hand, you might be one of those guys with a crystal ball that says "You'll only need it to work for 3 rounds according to FBI statistics..." :eek:
 
In '94 Colt AR's were going for $1k or more after the AWB. You can get one just as good or better today for the same price. I wouldn't wait on a "panic sell" myself, just might be buying a rifle that someone else (or who knows how many someones) couldn't make run.

Back then a few people made AR's now everyone, there brother, sister and kids make them.
 
Buy now. I picked up quality parts a little at a time and built a good quality rifle (parts from BCM, Spikes, etc.) for around 700 bucks. That same rifle would have cost much more at the inflated prices of five or six years ago.
 
There are more and more manufacturers getting into AR game, the price will just keep dropping. Now I can put together an AR around $450, I won't be surprised to see $400 AR when overseas manufacturers, either full rifle or part, in the game. Actually, who knows if current AR parts are US made or made in China already. They are not marked anyway.
 
There are more and more manufacturers getting into AR game, the price will just keep dropping. Now I can put together an AR around $450, I won't be surprised to see $400 AR when overseas manufacturers, either full rifle or part, in the game. Actually, who knows if current AR parts are US made or made in China already. They are not marked anyway.
Which parts from which manufacturer(s)?

Yes, if you buy the absolute bottom of the barrel no-name cheapest of the cheap, you may be getting some pretty inferior parts.

But as we have discussed in this thread, you can get a very high quality rifle for not that much money
 
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