I have some Imperial & some RCBS Case Lube II. Neither will stick cases unless you get really really stingy with them. As in put some on your fingetr and then try to get too many cases done before adding more to your finger tips.
At the time I thought it was something I was doing wrong. Now that I know that brass is just really stubborn, it's not really a big deal. Yes, I learned a few things, and I may try some of the things mentioned here.Have you tried any of the suggestions given?Are you going to?I can't understand asking for advice when you really don't want it.
I tried the rcbs stuff, and had a few stick. I know nobody believes it, but that brass is freaking hard.I have some Imperial & some RCBS Case Lube II. Neither will stick cases unless you get really really stingy with them. As in put some on your fingetr and then try to get too many cases done before adding more to your finger tips.
No, but that would be really fast for typical use, provided it has some sort of detent to hold the case centered.
Rcbs says wax lubes are problematic, along with countless threads with people claiming they are done with imperial sizing wax and stuck cases.I am unaware of anyone who says that; if someone does, they are wrong.
If stuck cases are the best indication then one shot wins hands down. But nothing is that cut and dry. Having clean dies and properly applying the lubricant "reading and following the direction" is bound to give you optimal performance. I use rcbs dies almost exclusively and redding sizing wax. Am I doing it wrong? There are a lot of ways to skin this cat but redding sizing wax is not the issue.Rcbs says wax lubes are problematic, along with countless threads with people claiming they are done with imperial sizing wax and stuck cases.
I wanted to hear back from rcbs before I responded, and it took a few days.
I think I would have to agree with most of that. Heck, I started having problems with normal brass after I started overlubing due to other problems. If I had to do it over again, I would have googled that particular brass and found out it was a problem. I may still try some wax if I shoot any more of that ammo, but if the brass isn't very good, why shoot it in the first place.If we’re picking bets for what causes the most stuck cases, then I want in.
I’ll take the whole thing with the simple bet the REAL answer is “user error with insufficient lubrication.”
I’ve used Imperial, homemade, RCBS, Lee, One Shot, Hornady Unique, Lyman spray, and maybe something I’m forgetting, and haven’t had issues with either stuck cases or dents unless I screwed up. One Shot is certainly the most maligned product on the market, but as I mentioned above, I’ve used One Shot exclusively for around a decade and tens of thousands of cases, including case forming, without sticking cases or running excessive press force.
The sad part, in my perspective, is the fact so many folks so readily condemn a product for their own failures.
Absolutely. User error.I’ll take the whole thing with the simple bet the REAL answer is “user error with insufficient lubrication.”
And now I know, don't push down harder than you want to pull up.Absolutely. User error.
Rcbs says wax lubes are problematic, along with countless threads with people claiming they are done with imperial sizing wax and stuck cases.
I wanted to hear back from rcbs before I responded, and it took a few days.
look guys the 223 is the standard designation and the 5.56 is the metric designation both the same!!No, but the insufficient lube you're using will do it every time.
Granted, your shell holder isn't engaging as much rim as you'd like, but it wouldn't stick cases if you were using sufficient lube.
The chamber designs, and the dies, are exactly the same. Get the chamber drawings, do your own comparison, and stop spreading this easily avoidable misinformation
The LC brass is stronger (not thicker generally, just stronger), which will require more sizing force, but you're stripping rims on the downstroke. . . it's still a lube problem.
More lube, preferably a paste, applied by hand, one at a time, mouth, neck, and body, until you get a feel for what sizing should feel like. Then experiment.
Lanolin and heet works awesome for me and is dirt nasty ridiculous cheap compared to anything else you can use. You can get enough to do 100000 cases for the price of a bottle of the rcbs stuff. I use it to size mixed .223/5.56 on a Lee app with the Xpress shell holder that only grabs maybe 1/3 the amount of the time that a standard shell holder grabs and have stuck 2 cases out of 1500. I know it's not recommended but it's so fast and removing a stuck case takes about 2.5 minutes.Suffering many stuck cases lately, I talked with savvy RCBS tech. Assuming die is correctly set, problem is with lube. He states RCBS spray lube is best he's used (not just because he works there). So, after I get the present case unstuck, I will follow his lead - Remembering to lube inside neck.
Suffering many stuck cases lately, I talked with savvy RCBS tech. Assuming die is correctly set, problem is with lube. He states RCBS spray lube is best he's used (not just because he works there). So, after I get the present case unstuck, I will follow his lead - Remembering to lube inside neck.