Chicago students rally against guns

[HankB]

Some time ago, Chicago did a 20-year study of murders . . . it turned out about 3/4 were committed by people who already had criminal records. BUT about 2/3 of the victims were ALSO criminals, putting the shootings into the "good riddance" category.

Then they looked at demographics . . . when it turned out that over 90% of the perps were from one particular group, all discussion of the study was dropped like the proverbial hot potato.

I've been gone from Chicago for a long time, but I have reason to believe that Chicago's gun laws were ignored by a large segment of good people.

 

[NukemJim]

Bix posted

Violation of the registration ordinance is -well- an ordinance violation punishible by a fine of no more than $500, incarceration for no more than 90 days, or both (in the case of a first infraction). See Section 8-20-250 of the City of Chicago Municipal Code.

IANAL or LEO & can always be wrong.

I've been told by a Chi lawyer & several CPD LEOs that they somehow "bundle" (I know that is the wrong termonology can't remember the term they used ) the not registering the gun into UUW (Unlawfull Use of Weapon) which is a felony. Although it seems that there is a fair amount of discretion used by some LEOs & SAs in arresting/prosecuting.

I do not have first hand knowlledge & did not understand the detailsof the explaination. Did not seem right to me but a lot of laws do not make sense to me.

Can anyone assist in redcing my confusion please?

NukemJim

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

We may just have to call this part of the country a lost cause and move on.

 

[george29]

when it turned out that over 90% of the perps were from one particular group, all discussion of the study was dropped like the proverbial hot potato.

Because "the machine" gets much of its power from the "Leaders" of this particular group.

 

[rickomatic]

Gov. Rod Blagojevich encouraged the students at the demonstration to go to the state capital to push lawmakers to toughen up the gun laws.

Hey...I got an idea, Governor Naive. How abous ENFORCING the law that says it's illegal for students to bring guns to school NOW? When you get a handle on that one, come back and we'll talk.



Idiots............sheesh...... :banghead:

 

[ralphie98]

I want to say its a good thing that students get involved and take an interest in this type of stuff, but to be quite honest, these kids don't know their heads from their... yeah. For the most part, they don't understand the bill of rights because it hasn't been taught to them. They know good and well that nothing the goverment can do will keep the gang bangers from getting guns or killing people, but they somehow have this idea that the gov't needs to step in and "do something". They live in this utopian dream land where more laws mean that all bad guys will turn in their firearms and live in peace and harmony, but the real world doesn't work that way. Sad huh? I'm only 28, so i can remember being a teenager and thinking I knew how the world worked. As I get older I learn that there is a lot that I don't know, and a lot more that I didn't have a clue about when I was 16.

I have a lot of skepticism when students decide to protest or rally because I know there is a large number of them who are doing it because its better than sitting in a classroom.

 

[plainsbilly]

but it cant be happening i live almost next to there, if this mysterious evil gun syndrome is catching how do we protect our guns uh childrenfrom this evil vile threat vapor barriers ,wipes ,oils or do we just keep them at home where we can keep a loving attentive eye on them

 

[eric.cartman]

Chicago is a cesspool that will never be cleansed.

And it will always pollute the rest of this wonderful country

 

[El Tejon]

Can we rally against Chicago?

 

[Deanimator]

Because "the machine" gets much of its power from the "Leaders" of this particular group.

Which is of course the height of irony, given that the "leader" ("Duce", actually) of "the machine" was State's Attorney in Chicago when the police were running an organized torture mill for criminal suspects belonging to that group.

The midget's opposition in the Democratic primary wasn't kidding when he called it the "Daley-Burge ticket".

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

Not far from the truth, unfortunately. And it starts at the top in both the government and force.

I LONG to see the day when Daley is doing the "perp walk" on television. I live to see him as cellmates with the unlamented last governor. I'd rather see that than win the state lotto jackpot.

It's happening to Kwame in Detroit Maybe there is hope for Chicago yet.

 

[mokin]

Does anybody else find it ironic that the school kids got a day out of class to attend an anti-gun rally on the same day a report is released that states as few as 50% of high school freshmen graduate?

 

[WildeKurt]

We may just have to call this part of the country a lost cause and move on.

Don't abandon us. It'll only spread. Look at what happens to places where large numbers of SoCal transplants end up.

 

[charon]

There is an opportunity to ask Arne Duncan (Chicago Schools CEO) questions on his "gun violence" bender tonight on WBBM radio 780. Details in activism.

 

[Tyris]

when it turned out that over 90% of the perps were from one particular group, all discussion of the study was dropped like the proverbial hot potato.

Im going to play dumb for a second. Can we name names and spell out who the demographic is?
Or are we bound by political correctness to the point where we pervert the truth?

-T

 

[jerkyman45]

It isn't gun violence that is the problem, it is gang violence. Gangs have become for more widespread then a lot of people think. We have MS-13 branches in Rhode Island, and I know that people in Illinois know a lot better then I do that gang violence in the Chicago area is bad. This is the same thing we always see, people don't want to admit that there is a gang problem, they blame guns, and handguns are what are used is the majority of these crimes, yet they are illegal. Its sad that people can be so ignorant that they truly believe gun control decreases crime, but I know I'm just preaching to the choir here.

 

[Winchester 73]

Im going to play dumb for a second. Can we name names and spell out who the demographic is?
Or are we bound by political correctness to the point where we pervert the truth?

I'm not PC,Tyris.
Primarily black("African-American"-thats PC,doncha know)inter-city(Urban,PC)gangs.Does that cover it?

 

[Tyris]

Thanks for spelling it out. It was refreshing to see.

Instead of dealing with black criminals and gangs (because it hurts their community leader's feelings to toss another black criminal in the prison system), their pathetic solution is an attempt to disarm the victims.

-T

 

[Winchester 73]

their pathetic solution is an attempt to disarm the victims.

Right on!
And all the law abiding public across this whole great land of ours,the United States of America!(not PC,Hallelujah!),and let us not give an inch.

 

[Marcus84]

Saw the gov speaking on tv last night about how he too wants to go after the gun makers...they already tried that and lost when does it end?!

 

[Eroc]

Maybe instead of teaching fear in school, children should be taught safety and respect for Firearms, let them make up their own mind.....these people are pro-choice, right?

 

[misANTHrope]

Sounds more like the mayor rallied against guns and brought impressionable young people in for indoctrination.

 

[popeye]

One of the issues for recent increase in Chicago's teen shootings is they closed some of the "under performing" schools. So lets say: a school is closed that kids from "gang A" populate. They are then xfered to a school that is populated by "gang B, C, or D, etc".. Then the SHTF. We can't have them "A" people in our hood so let's do the logical thing and shoot them. The police are escorting these kids to and from school. Helicopters patrol trouble areas.
I lived in Chicago when I was a kid. '47 - '65. It was great then. I live in Indiana now. Unfortunately the overflow of Chicago and Gary gang jerks has pentetrated my neighborhood. No kids in my house, guns all over. I never leave the house unarmed. What a pity that no politician will EVER address the real issues.

 

[plexreticle]

The first amendment allows people to make fools of themselves en mass. Including Mayor Daley and his scandal ridden Administration.

 

[popeye]

A stupid analogy I know: If you view society as a whole, as a tub of water. Lets say our cities have become drain holes in that tub. Because our economy (water) can't fill the tub fast enough anymore to keep up with the drains, how soon before the tub is empty?

I drive through Chicago all the time. You would think that the tax base should be humongous. Yet they're always crying the blues about money. Sales tax will soon be over 10%. Talk about wasted tax dollars. Helicopters to patrol school routes.