Chinese shotgun manufacturing

[Slater]

The following is from Coyote Cap's website and I thought it was kind of interesting as I thought that all the materials were Chinese-produced. This is in regards to the M97/M87 clones:



The American Walnut stocks for all of the Chinese I.A.C. shotguns are coming from Missouri (we have now shipped close to 15,000 stock sets and have another 10,000 more to go).

A large shipment of Pachmayr "Sporting Clays" recoil pads were sent to China to be installed on "Special Edition" models

All of the "Win-Choke", choke tubes are a contract we have with Tru-Lock Corporation of Georgia.

Manson Corp has supplied us with several complete sets of choke tube reamers and taps, that were sent to China.

All of the chambers in these shotguns are being cut with American made chambering reamers and forcing cone cutters

The lettering and stamping tools were Made in America

Even the #4 large brass front sight beads are American Made

A huge shipment of Birchwood Casey Walnut stock stain and finish in 55 gal drums went to China for our shotguns.

Because the Chinese ship (5) guns to each box, we needed individual shipping boxes, which meant ordering boxes for all three models, the 99 doubles, the 97 pumps and now the 87 lever actions. I don't have the figures for all three shotgun models, however, there are pallets of American made shipping boxes ready to be used for each shotgun to go to it's new owner.

 

[Hoppy590]

so essentialy its an american made shotgun. assembled by the chinese. Who supplys the metal? is that chinese.

 

[dfariswheel]

"so essentialy its an american made shotgun"

No, it means it's the same Chinese-made made gun for which American made stocks and stock finish are being supplied along with chambering tooling and a few minor parts.

These Chinese made guns are just that: A gun that's made in China from Chinese steels, on Chinese made machinery, by Chinese workers, (Some of whom MAY be prisoners serving as slave labor).

This is like buying a Korean made car for which seat covers, a engine cylinder hone, and hub caps are supplied by America.

 

[sm]

dfariswheel,

I am with you sir!
You have few more years on me, and you know how I respect your take and experiences.

I will always be learning...always..

I ain't doing to good with all this "Global Market" Stuff.

In '93 bought me a brand spanking new Chevy truck - built in Shreveport,LA , got a alligator on the door says it too...
...buddy of mine bought the same truck two weeks after I bought mine, except he got the extended cab - his come out of Canada.

Don't make my truck anymore, got a new size one and its said the engine come from China.

I go to get parts for my truck, and they are OEM made in Mexico and other places I cannot pronounce. I mean does the US even make light bulbs anymore for under the hood of a Chevy truck?

So I get to looking at the new Remington SXS a fella had. He was getting rid of it. I asked why, he showed me. He had a Baikail, same gun, just older, not sure how Big Green messed this up, but they did, Baikail was better made.

So I thought from afar that was a 870, it wasn't, one of them from China. Umm, first ones I saw when they first came out back when , parts did not interchange all that well.
Another old boy was shooting patterns with a new 870, having problems with the patterns.

Explain to me why Big Green had NON-concentric Chokes and this Chinese Clone had concentric ones and shot better patterns?


I'm going to sit on the floor with a old H&R Topper in my lap and read The Old Man And The Boy by Ruark. Come dark-thirty, fire up an old American made oil lamp , Using my Zippo and read myself asleep.

"Sir, can you help me get this fuse in my Honda?"
Yeah, nice older lady gets fuses made in USA and mine come from BFE.

I ain't doing too good on this stuff like I said...

 

[frank c]

I am with you sm.Being a good union man (IBEW)for the last 30 years I thought I would buy a new 2004 dodge cummins diesel truck a few years back.I brought the truck home and found the engine was made in the USA Indiana I believe,and the rest of the truck was made in Mexico.

 

[aryfrosty]

Chinese shootguns...

The Norinco I have must have been part of a trial run...One made to see if somebody in China could take fake walnut from Missouri and hand carve a shotgun stock. It sure isn't walnut. More like stained birch. And it really looks like it was carved by some wino with a pocketknife.
It's stubborn, like my M-97 Winchester. But it shoots fairly well.
Yeah, I agree with the gentleman about the Dodge trucks. I bought a 95 and a 97 with Cummins diesels. After selling them I decided I might like the new Dodge Diesel 4-door pickup with full sized back doors. ("Made in Sonora, Mexico"). Now I have a Chevy Corolla and a Ford XC-90 SUV. And a friend just bragged he "bought American"....a rebuilt Caterpillar 6,000 lb forklift. (With a Mitsubishi diesel engine).

 

[Hoppy590]

so essentialy your whole post is saying "Chinese guns are made by chinese" that seems hardly worth mentioning