Chuck Hawks rips Tikka a new one

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A Critical Look at the Tikka T3
(And Other Economy Hunting Rifles)

By Chuck Hawks



Like many old geezers, I bemoan the loss, or lack, of standards in our modern world. And nowhere is this devaluation of quality more evident than in 21st Century hunting rifles. (Actually, the slide started in the 1960's and accelerated toward the end of the 20th Century).

We are, today, reaping the crop of sub-standard rifles previously sown. Most of the blame for this falls squarely on the shoulders of the writers and publishers of the specialty outdoors print magazines. In the quest for advertising dollars they have turned a blind eye to the constant cheapening of our hunting guns. Often they have merely parroted the promotional flack handed to them by the manufacturer's ad agencies.

Thus flimsy, injection molded plastic stocks are praised as "lightweight" or "weather resistant" rather than criticized as the inferior bedding platforms that they actually are. Free floating barrels, introduced simply to minimize the labor cost of precisely bedding a barreled action in a gun stock, are now praised as an asset by those who know nothing else. A perfect example of an economy shortcut becoming the new standard.

The deficiencies of receivers that are simply drilled from bar stock and that substitute heavy washers for integral recoil lugs are never examined in modern rifle reviews. Often the loading/ejection port--merely a slot cut into the tubular receiver--is so small that it is difficult or impossible to load a cartridge directly into the chamber, or manually remove a fired case. But the implication of this drawback at the range and in the field is never mentioned in most rifle reviews.

In many cases, "short actions" are merely long actions with the bolt stop moved to limit bolt travel. The modern gun writers who review these creations likewise never mention that this defeats the fundamental purpose of the short action calibers for which these rifles are chambered.

The receiver holds the bolt, which brings up a salient question: does anyone really believe than a cheap multi-piece, assembled bolt has any possible advantage over a one-piece forged steel bolt except economy of manufacture?

The use of plastic, nearly disposable, detachable magazines and trigger guards is overlooked by the popular print press, or actually praised for their lightweight construction. Talk about spin, these guys could teach the Washington politicians some tricks!

In fact, "lightweight" and "accuracy" are the buzzwords most frequently used to "spin" hunting rifle reviews in a paying advertiser's favor. (Cheap substitute materials are usually lighter--but not stronger--than forged steel, and most production rifles will occasionally shoot a "braggin' group" that can be exploited in a review.) Whenever reviewers start touting either, watch out! There may not be a lot to tout in the critical areas of design, material quality, manufacture, or fit and finish.

A rifle's lines and finish are largely cosmetic, but why should we be condemned to hunt with ugly rifles? Matte finishes on barreled actions are sold as a benefit ("low glare"), but in reality they are simply faster and thus less expensive for the manufacturer to produce than a highly polished finish. And the flat black color touted as a stealth advantage of plastic stocks over walnut is patently absurd. Why would a rational person believe that such stocks are any less visible to animals in the woods than a wooden stock?

Have you noticed how the checkered areas on wood stocked Tikka T3 rifles are divided into several small patches? That is done because it is easier (and therefore cheaper) to cut a small patch of checkering than a larger one. The shorter the individual checkering lines, the easier it is to keep them straight. Once again, manufacturing economy triumphs over aesthetics and function.

The Tikka T3 is certainly not the only modern hunting rifle to adopt some or most of these production shortcuts. I have not chosen it for the lead in this article just to pick on Tikka. I have chosen it as the poster child for cheap rifles because it is one of the few models to incorporate all of these cost and quality reducing shortcuts. If there is a production shortcut out there, the T3 has probably already incorporated it.

Then there is the Tikka 1" 100-yard test. I have yet to see, or even read about, a T3 hunting rifle that will consistently meet Tikka's 3-shots into 1" at 100 yards accuracy claim.

Now, unlike many gun writers today, I try not to over emphasize the importance of accuracy in big game hunting rifles. Big game animals are large and hair-splitting accuracy is almost never required. A rifle that will shoot into 2" at 100 yards (2 MOA) is accurate enough for most purposes. A hunting rifle that will average 1.5 MOA groups is a good one, and most T3 rifles fall into that category.

But the Beretta/Sako/Tikka conglomerate heavily advertises their accuracy guarantee. They market their rifles on that basis. And, in my experience, most Tikka T3 rifles simply will not consistently meet their own accuracy guarantee. If a average T3 will shoot an occasional 1" group with any load it is doing well. (Want a real MOA hunting rifle? Read our review of the Weatherby Vanguard SUB-MOA on the Product Review Page.) Why do none of my fellow gun writers in the popular press call Beretta on its misleading advertising?

That is, of course, a rhetorical question. The answer is simple: Beretta Corp. is a big bucks advertiser in the popular print magazines. But what about the writers' and editors' obligation to their readers, who pay their hard earned dollars to read those reviews? Obviously, the word "integrity" has been deleted from the print mag publishers' spelling checkers.

To add insult to injury, the Tikka T3 is a cheap rifle, but not an inexpensive one. These things cost as much or more than some higher quality, better designed, and better turned-out hunting rifles.

None of this means that a person cannot hunt successfully with a Tikka T3 rifle, or that Tikka owners are a particularly dissatisfied lot. There are many T3 owners who have no complaints, and many who are pleased with the performance of their T3 rifles and satisfied with their purchase. In truth, they are safe, functional rifles and perfectly capable of killing game in the hands of an adequate shot. The same could be said about most other economy models, including the Stevens 200, Remington 710, and NEF rifles.

But I suspect that most satisfied T3 customers are not experienced rifle buyers. A person who has never owned a fine rifle is much more likely to be tolerant (or ignorant) of an economy rifle's shortcomings than an experienced shooter and hunter. The relative newcomer simply has inadequate personal experience upon which to formulate an informed opinion.

To make a crude analogy, all acoustic guitars may feel pretty much alike in the hands of a person who doesn't play, but not to a virtuoso. Similarly, I'll bet that most hunters who use economy rifles don't realize that their rifle's cheap plastic stock is too thick through the wrist and forearm. This is something that comes into play every time they pick up their rifle, yet they don't even know that it is deficient! They have never owned a rifle equipped with a well-designed stock, so they have no frame of reference and simply don't understand how much better a good rifle feels in the hands.

Still, I find it hard to understand how Tikka stays in business offering less rifle for more money. The T3's success is a tribute to the ignorance of the modern American sportsman--and the connivance of the sporting press upon which they rely for information.

Posted from http://www.chuckhawks.com/critical_look_T3.htm

What do you guys think about what he has to say? I was thinking about getting a Tikka/Sako but this article gives me second thoughts.
 
Strange, I can get sub MOA out of my wife's .223 Tikka T3 using Black Hills ammo.

Plus I would still take it over a current production Remington 700, which is kind of the standard.

I agree with the economy aspects that he points out, but the market for beautiful, hand-crafted, EXPENSIVE bolt guns is a pretty small one. That is a fact of life. Sorry Chuck.
 
Still, I find it hard to understand how Tikka stays in business offering less rifle for more money.

Easy, they're trading off their brand name, just as Remington is doing with their 710 model. But, how do they get away with it?

A person who has never owned a fine rifle is much more likely to be tolerant (or ignorant) of an economy rifle's shortcomings than an experienced shooter and hunter.

Bingo! Because there are so many ignorant and cheap b@stards among the shooting fraternity.

Don
 
Whether you like the Tikka or not, his points about gun reviews are dead on, which I think we all knew already. That said, I thought about a Tikka, but it did feel cheap when I handled it.
 
Just read this forum and count how many times you see the question "which gun is the cheapest ? "
 
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i thought free-floating barrels were good because it allowed the barrel to resonate (like a guitar string) giving you better consistency and accuracy. :scrutiny: maybe hes proving his point but i've only ever heard they are a good thing.

"Free floating barrels, introduced simply to minimize the labor cost of precisely bedding a barreled action in a gun stock, are now praised as an asset by those who know nothing else. A perfect example of an economy shortcut becoming the new standard. "
 
free-floating barrels

I have read (probably here on THR) about the difficulty in creating an accurate double rifle, as the soldering between the two barrels must be repeatedly broken and reapplied while each barrel is sighted in (or something like that). Maybe if double rifles sported two free-floating barrels they would be affordable for the rest of us. :D

This is an interesting topic. Are there rifles without free-floating barrels that are as accurate as rifles with this "feature"?
 
That article reads like a conversation (or rather...monologue) with a crotchety old man at an old-age home. As soon as he started off the article by stating that firearms have been in a steady decline since the 60's, he gave away his bias.

I have no experiance with Tikka firearms, furthermore I am interested primarily in military arms and not firearms for hunting, but the experiance that I do have with Tikka and Sako (who he does mention) has been very positive.

I don't know how far he would like to take his arguement, because the reports that I have seen of the Sako TRG in .338 Lapua have been very good (in fact, I believe it is use as a military/police DM rifle in Europe) to exceptional.


His point about gun magazines is true, but unfortunately, totally moot. Everyone who has more than a passing interest in firearms knows that most gun magazines are little more than elaborate advertisements and mostly worthless. It's always good to see an article saying the things that we know, but people have been making the same statements about the magazines here on THR for years.
 
Couple of target shooters of my acquaintance really miss the previous Tikka rifles, which they liked for conversion to Long Range match rifles. They don't think the T3 will do as well.
 
Well

I like the older Tikkas (mine easily makes it into the sub moa club). Something doesn't quite sit right with me about the T3, and I haven't even considered getting one (not to mention the 200 hundred dollar price increase).
 
Then there is the Tikka 1" 100-yard test. I have yet to see, or even read about, a T3 hunting rifle that will consistently meet Tikka's 3-shots into 1" at 100 yards accuracy claim.

I guess my Tikka T3 Lite 22-250 doesn't know it isn't supposed to shoot 3/4" groups at 100 yards all day long. I bought this gun under the pretence that is was light and handy. I didn't want a heavy rig to lug around. And I didn't care if it was an absolute tack driver, just needed to be accurate enough to hit a yote out to 250 yards. This rifle does that with ease.
 
my tikka

I have a .223 Tikka T3 light. It is not the prettiest, but it consistently puts 3 shots sub-MOA on a cold barrel with factory ammo, including dirt-cheap Wolf. This is contrary to Chuck's assertions. When I read his article, my respect for him diminished greatly.
Tikka T3 is inexpensive, light, and very accrurate and reliable rifle. I would put it above Remington 700 XPS, if you ask me. But, I am not a big hunting guru.
 
I keep forgeting that Hawks praises many of the other manufacturers' rifles and then will go on to say that free floating the barrel, bedding the action, and doing a trigger job will really make those rifles into shooters.

Strange, my T3 in 300 WSM will shoot 3/8" groups consistantly without doing anything to it. Pull it out of the box, clean it, and shoot it. But, then again, I am not the "expert" like Hawks.
 
My tikka

I own Tikka T3 in 30.06.
it shoots sub-MOA on cold, it still shoots 1 MOA when hot...
but all i need is 1 shot to hit my game where i aim, and it does it all the time.
:)
I plan to buy another one, in 223 soon with heavy barrel.
Don't care what some "crotchety old man at an old-age home" said.
 
I paid $550 NIB for this Tikka T3 Varmint with the heavy stainless barrel. Great barrel, adjustable trigger, smooth bolt action and best of all...it shoots like a laser beam. I once shot a .154" group using factory Black Hill 50 gr V-Max .223 ammo thru it. Here is what is did straight out of the box during barrel break-in. One of the best damn rifles that I have ever purchased.

Chuck is way off base on this one. I have seen 2 other Tikka T3s that shoot every bit a well as mine.

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I'm no marksman, but I love my Tikka. No other factory rifle for the price can touch it in performance, quality of parts and slickness of the action. new range.jpg

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This was my first day out, with only one kind of ammo, on a 5-10 mph wind day, 90 degrees, at 100yards. (270wsm, SS lam Tikka T3)

The only other rifle brand I would have even considered was the Sako line.

If I can't afford a Sako next, no other rifle but a Tikka will be considered...
 
Chuck Hawks is some good reading. Just don't think he's the last word on everything, any more than anyone else.

Hell, what would we be shooting if we just took (pick any gun writer)'s word as gospel? Would it really be the best thing for each of us?
 
So how much would a rifle built "good enough" for Chuck cost?

And what about cheap guns prior to the 1960s? Are they better made and more accurate than the cheap rifles of today? Could they be built as cheaply today?


I'm not a high paid gun writer and I can't afford some fancy schmancy new custom rifle so would he rather that people like me not hunt at all?
 
Chuck Hawks is my hero for having the guts to say what has needed to be said for a long time!! I don,t think he was knocking Tikka but rather using them of an example of the sub-standard firearms being offered on the market today.The marketing guys are smart. Make it cheaper and then tout the advantages so people think their getting a deal.It's called making a silk purse from a sows ear!! Pouring plastic into a mold is alot cheaper than crafting a wood stock. Then they call it free floated instead of poor fit and finish.
I don't have a plastic anything in my gun safe and never will!!Chuck Hawks is right on target on this. Don't be manipulated by the marketing or the lackey gun writers of gun manufacturers.
 
Thanks for the warning...

I bet he'd really love my $240 Mossberg 100ATR

Well, I've shot spendy rifles, "cheap" rifles, and accurate rifles. The accurate one's didn't come from one or the other of the first groups exclusively.

FWIW, I have a hard time understanding why my Mossy ATR-100 that cost 240 bucks and shoots 1.5 inch 100 yard groups with factory ammo is a bad buy for a beater hunting rifle?!?!?! Double so if the buyer is going to sight in a few times a year and just use it for hunting deer.

I hope someone remembered to tell my deer last year that it was shot by a CHEAP rifle. ;)
 
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