Co2 ball discharger
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Steel Horse Rider
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If you have an air compressor I would try that first. I am assuming that the ball was double patched without any powder under it or this wouldn't be a problem.
EljaySL
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I don't know why not. If you got it down there, it shouldn't be that hard to get it back out.
That being said if there's no powder under it, it should also be possible to work a little powder in behind the ball by removing the nipple or on a flintlock pushing it through the touch hole. Just takes a little to pop a ball out. If it fails just push the ball back to the bottom and try again.
That being said if there's no powder under it, it should also be possible to work a little powder in behind the ball by removing the nipple or on a flintlock pushing it through the touch hole. Just takes a little to pop a ball out. If it fails just push the ball back to the bottom and try again.
elhombreconnonombre
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Those co2 dischargers can produce 900 psi or more from a full co2 cartridge, if you feel you need that much force.
EljaySL
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Yikes!
Yeah, I'd use a CO2 discharger and hope that I hadn't poked a hole all the way through the ball with the puller.
Yeah, I'd use a CO2 discharger and hope that I hadn't poked a hole all the way through the ball with the puller.
Loyalist Dave
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Yeah if you got it loaded, it will get it out, even if you only loaded it with the short starter. IF you spit patched instead of using a grease-lube you might consider putting a few drops of water down the muzzle to get the patch damp again....
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whughett
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According to a post/thread some time back on this forum it was pointed out that Zerk grease fittings have the same thread as most percussion nipples and that an ordinary grease gun can be used to force out powder less loadings.
If it were me* [a VERY strong caution therein], I'd pull the nipple, load 6-7 grains of 3F
through the vent/flash channel, tap the rifle while vertical to ensure all is settled to
the bottom, reinstall the nipple, cap it, and point it down-range......
Ball, ball puller, and ramrod tip would [very likely] all exit at relatively slow speed with
a decided "CHUFF.." sound.
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(But then us N-SSA'rs were always known for direct action)
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through the vent/flash channel, tap the rifle while vertical to ensure all is settled to
the bottom, reinstall the nipple, cap it, and point it down-range......
Ball, ball puller, and ramrod tip would [very likely] all exit at relatively slow speed with
a decided "CHUFF.." sound.
*
(But then us N-SSA'rs were always known for direct action)
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elhombreconnonombre
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If left in the sun for any length of time the pressure of the co2 cartridges go up to around 1200 psi. Cuidado y Buena Suerte mi amigo.
MCgunner
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I've got a CO2 discharger. Waste of money, never worked. I think it might be due to the fact, though, that I was trying to discharge a Minie ball loaded over pyrodex. The Minie doesn't fit tight like a patched ball, probably will leak by.
If you go by any N-SSA firing line, you'll see a CO2 discharger at work almost every skirmish.
I've never seen one fail.*
* in fact I had to use one only yesterday -- twice. In this case it was a Brown Bess in
which the powder under a shot charge had gotten wet. The CO2 discharger dumped
that powder/0.025" card/½" cushion wad/1¼ oz of loose shot out each time.
I've never seen one fail.*
* in fact I had to use one only yesterday -- twice. In this case it was a Brown Bess in
which the powder under a shot charge had gotten wet. The CO2 discharger dumped
that powder/0.025" card/½" cushion wad/1¼ oz of loose shot out each time.
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totallyeftup
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I would shoot out a 2-patch load
I have never seen a CO2 rescue work, seen it tried twice
I have never seen a CO2 rescue work, seen it tried twice
colonelhogan44
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Can you not ram it down the rest of the way?
Kynoch
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I did that once but I used a friend's grease gun that was filled with Crisco. Once it hydrauliced the ball out I just left the barrel in the sun at an angle and the Crisco melted and flowed out saving a huge mess...
BCRider
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That Zerk fitting and grease idea is perfect. Thanks to the variety of domestic and foreign cars out there you will certainly be able to match the nipple thread to a zerk .
The use of Crisco instead of automotive grease is another great idea. If it's not warm enough outside then a hair dryer or propane torch will also work to melt and drain the Crisco.
If there is a powder charge in there an option would be to shoot it out after you manage to ram it down onto the powder. But with the ramrod tip and ball screw stuck in there I'd advise against that since the metal bits are likely to scuff and scratch the bore. Far better to use a grease gun to push it out.
The use of Crisco instead of automotive grease is another great idea. If it's not warm enough outside then a hair dryer or propane torch will also work to melt and drain the Crisco.
If there is a powder charge in there an option would be to shoot it out after you manage to ram it down onto the powder. But with the ramrod tip and ball screw stuck in there I'd advise against that since the metal bits are likely to scuff and scratch the bore. Far better to use a grease gun to push it out.
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Curator
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Stacer,
Glad you got the ball out. Now you know; the worst way to get a ball out is to use a screw on the end of a ramrod. 90% of the time the ramrod end pulls off or the screw expands the ball making it doubly difficult to remove. Even worse is to have the ball screw strip out and leave a hole through the bullet. This happens often enough to know of the consequences and the difficulty to remedy. The best way to remove a ball loaded without powder is to push it all the way to the breech, remove the nipple and fill the flash hole with 4Fg black powder if you have it. (Any black powder or substitute will work as long as you can get about 5 grains of it under the ball) Replace the nipple and fire the gun paying attention to evidence the ball exited. Usually you can see it. If the ball does not exit on the first try, re-seat it at the breech and try again with a little more powder. CO2 ball dischargers are not all that good pushing out a tightly patched ball or one that is only short started. They work fine provided the ball/patch combination is not too tight and they make a good seal at the nipple.
Glad you got the ball out. Now you know; the worst way to get a ball out is to use a screw on the end of a ramrod. 90% of the time the ramrod end pulls off or the screw expands the ball making it doubly difficult to remove. Even worse is to have the ball screw strip out and leave a hole through the bullet. This happens often enough to know of the consequences and the difficulty to remedy. The best way to remove a ball loaded without powder is to push it all the way to the breech, remove the nipple and fill the flash hole with 4Fg black powder if you have it. (Any black powder or substitute will work as long as you can get about 5 grains of it under the ball) Replace the nipple and fire the gun paying attention to evidence the ball exited. Usually you can see it. If the ball does not exit on the first try, re-seat it at the breech and try again with a little more powder. CO2 ball dischargers are not all that good pushing out a tightly patched ball or one that is only short started. They work fine provided the ball/patch combination is not too tight and they make a good seal at the nipple.
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