Coast Guard lieutenant, dubbed 'domestic terrorist,' had hit list of media bigs and Dem lawmakers

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I wonder what the weapons charges were. Being that he was in Maryland I wonder if it was a state law he broke.

Now I ‘now it said he read radical stuff, and had a “hit list” but it also said “federal agents recovered 15 firearms and "conservatively" more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition ”

Anyone who competes will routinely have “more than 1000 rounds”

And we Gunny has more than 15 ARs alone. Hell, just to compete in 3 gun, PCC, and conceal carry one would be at 1/2 that. Add a spare or two and maybe a hunting gun or two and 15 could be real low.

I’m not passing judgement, but I hate how the media posts figures like this to make us look like “gun nuts”
 
I agree about the painting by a broad brush. Excluding some of the tacticrap in the photoI have been known to take that many firearms/ammo to the range for an afternoon of shooting fun. Heck 1500 rounds of .22 and handgun ammo would just get me warmed up for the main accuracy shoot for the afternoon. I guess it is all in perspective as a couple friends still have the original 50 round box of 357 they bought with their revolvers 30+ years ago. At least they figured it out before the bullets flew this time.
 
My dog was given a prescription for Tramadol. While I understand prosecutors start by throwing the book at someone, the media would be better advised to focus on the evidence of the suspect's intent rather than what he possessed which is entirely unremarkable and their fixation on it shows they have no discernment into what is significant.
 
1000 rounds is a lot...to carry around in a pants pocket.

15 guns including 2 pump shot guns, 3 .22’s a couple single stacks and a couple revolvers, doesn’t stand out to me.

Looks like some potential suppressor parts, if not legal that would be a big one.

Likely has more “teeth” than State laws on the guns and drugs he had.
 
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labnoti said:
My dog was given a prescription for Tramadol. While I understand prosecutors start by throwing the book at someone, the media would be better advised to focus on the evidence of the suspect's intent rather than what he possessed which is entirely unremarkable and their fixation on it shows they have no discernment into what is significant.
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But that would assume they don’t have an agenda.
Keep in mind that Maryland is an extremely anti gun state and the left is trying to turn Virginia into Maryland south. They don’t care about the high murder rates in Baltimore and DC which have the tough gun laws they seek.

Frankly I would rather see unbiased articles with “just the facts”. But in this era I suspect that’s long gone.

Personally articles like this make it harder for us to have discussions with those who don’t know better as it makes us look bad.
 
I’d be really concerned about how many rifles he had if the dude had 15 pairs of arms growing out of his torso! :eek:

It is intent that makes a person dangerous. A law abiding collector with 5000 rifles is less dangerous than a terrorist with one. (Or none for that matter). So I think focusing on what rifles he had is mostly sensational b.s.
 
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Dodged a bullet here luckily. Not an arsenal but a sizable amount of weapons and ammo and he certainly could
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Really how so?
The FBI controls the narrative.
God forbid if you are ever arrested and your property seized for doing internet searches or you spoke your mind.
He very well could have been researching a book he was writing.
Do you see the relevance?
 
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Not sure that I would assume that being Coast Guard that he had been "well trained" with regards to weapons.
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I wouldn't bank on that. My cousin was a Coastie back in the 80s and he's not a bad shot by any means. CG taught him, because otherwise he wasn't raised around them and last time we all got together at our uncle's cabin he did quite well punching paper and tin cans, if that counts for anything.
 
i would like to know how they found out about this guy and the probable cause (pc) they used to get a search warrant/arrest warrant. per the news it sounds that they used what he said on the net to conduct their investigation and the"pc" for the warrants. if this is going to be the standard then we all are under the micro scope for being a member of a gun related forum.
 
Yeah my first though when I seen "arsenal of 15 firearms and over 1500 rounds" my first thought was...."oh boy". Lol. A few of those pictures are 22s. So if they are all loaded and he had one bucket o golden bullets........1500 rds. To most A small safe is a 24 gun model. Lol. And that's long guns.
Hope they never visit gander outdoors and see that 55 gallon drum of 5.56 they sell.
 
True, many of us have decent amounts of weapons and ammunition. But fortunately most of us do not make terrorists threats. If the fella truly did what he's accused of, his punishment should be the same as any other terrorist.
 
If the news reports are correct, this guy was a pretty rotten fellow. Skinhead for 30 years, self-proclaimed white supremacist, seeking a white homeland, and wishing death upon anyone who wasn't of his tribe.

That is, if the reports are correct, which if they are he should be labelled for what he is, and should be roundly condemned by all. Forget about the weapons, they are just peripheral to this disgusting system of hatred.
 
Yeah, I certainly wasn't taking up for the guy by any stretch. Only the agenda driven reporting about an arsenal and "nearly 1500 rounds" which is one bucket o bullets.
 
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If the news reports are correct, this guy was a pretty rotten fellow. Skinhead for 30 years, self-proclaimed white supremacist, seeking a white homeland, and wishing death upon anyone who wasn't of his tribe.

That is, if the reports are correct, which if they are he should be labelled for what he is, and should be roundly condemned by all. Forget about the weapons, they are just peripheral to this disgusting system of hatred.
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In no way would I suggest his affiliations are good, but in our society we have to defend people's right to freely associate as they please. An awful lot of folks get hung up on these references (he's a skinhead, he's following Farrakhan, he's a muslim, he's kneeling at the NFL, he's a socialist/commie/tree hugger, he's a geedy polluting climate denier, or whatever) and assume bad intent. That's nothing more than sensationalism. If that is the bar to which the arrests are made, Lord help us all. There's plenty of people on both sides of the aisle ready to label someone they don't care for. I'm willing to bet we can find plenty to ostracize anyone you know.

The question is why he was being investigated (particular threats, concerns about mental health, etc.?) and what the authorities were attempting to thwart.
 
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In no way would I suggest his affiliations are good, but in our society we have to defend people's right to freely associate as they please. An awful lot of folks get hung up on these references (he's a skinhead, he's following Farrakhan, he's a muslim, he's kneeling at the NFL, he's a socialist/commie/tree hugger, he's a geedy polluting climate denier, or whatever) and assume bad intent. That's nothing more than sensationalism. If that is the bar to which the arrests are made, Lord help us all. There's plenty of people on both sides of the aisle ready to label someone they don't care for. I'm willing to bet we can find plenty to ostracize anyone you know.

The question is why he was being investigated (particular threats, concerns about mental health, etc.?) and what the authorities were attempting to thwart.
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He is free to hold such beliefs, assuming that he doesn't act on them (which it appears to be true in this case). At the same time, I am free to criticize, ostracise, and condemn him. My 1st Amendment rights are just as valid as his.
 
Free to do something and it being right are seperate matters.
No idea in this case but certainly in many.

I am curious to why he was investigated as well. Maybe for good reason. Maybe not. Likely will never know TBH
 
I guess I’m more concerned about the wild accusations. Early reports are vague threats against food/water supply, or liberal media hosts. These threats are not supported by a moderate collection of small arms. No reports of chem or bio agents to substantiate threats against big squishy targets. Sounds more like paranoid delusional rants than a real threat to these ears.
 
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He is free to hold such beliefs, assuming that he doesn't act on them (which it appears to be true in this case). At the same time, I am free to criticize, ostracise, and condemn him. My 1st Amendment rights are just as valid as his.
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Absolutely. Condemn and ostracized by individuals is wholely supported. Not arrested and imprisoned based on beliefs. Has to be actions which drive authorities.
 
From what I've read thus far, this is one guy with a lot of guns. Having no idea what his strategy was, the stockpile of guns and ammo aren't particularly an issue for me. If I could afford it, I would have quite a few AR platforms in various configurations and calibers, quite a few more handguns also. I haven't seen any evidence he is part of a larger plot with plans to utilize his arsenal in an attack.
Fortunately, I have read numerous news reports of this event, and I don't see much bias against an individual owning this number of firearms, just a factual account of what he had and what he has said/researched.
 
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