Cobra Patriot .45 ACP Report
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WonderNine
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I have!!! I swear!!!
The reason I can't get it out of MY mind is because I wouldn't mind having one of those Cobra 9mm's on gunbroker for about half the price of a Kel-Tec P11 as an extra coat pocket gun.
Tamara
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Are you referring to Talon Arms, maker of cheesy low-ball Kel-Tec knockoffs?
PCRCCW
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Tamara, you beat me to it.................AARRGGHH! 
The Talon Arms guns were pushed by a pawn shop in SLC as the "end all best guns made!"..........up to the point that talon went out of business. They then closed them out and dont sell many guns now.................
Hmmmmmmm....it makes you wonder why they dont sell many guns now?
Shoot well.
The Talon Arms guns were pushed by a pawn shop in SLC as the "end all best guns made!"..........up to the point that talon went out of business. They then closed them out and dont sell many guns now.................
Hmmmmmmm....it makes you wonder why they dont sell many guns now?
Shoot well.
Badger Arms
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"Cobra" is simply a cover name for many bad pistols and one good one. They bought out Davis, Republic Arms, and 'Talon' whatever that was. They still make the Davis Derringer and Saturday Night Specials. Recognize these beauties?
BTW: A thread ON the patriot should also include a picture OF the patriot:
BTW: A thread ON the patriot should also include a picture OF the patriot:
WonderNine
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Yes!!!
Talon T200 that's it!!! Thank you!!
Does anybody know if Cobra has made the Patriot 9 "safe"?
I wouldn't mind getting one for the price they're selling them at if they go bang and don't have a trigger with the weight of a P-11.....and don't blow up.
MurrayNevada
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Badger Arms:
Thanks for the picture of the Patriot. Attaching a picture is beyond my capabilities. I will not argue the merits of the other pistols you mention but I have read enough internet threads to know that folks hold the Patriot .45 in higher regard than those other firearms.
Thanks for the picture of the Patriot. Attaching a picture is beyond my capabilities. I will not argue the merits of the other pistols you mention but I have read enough internet threads to know that folks hold the Patriot .45 in higher regard than those other firearms.
pisankihead
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Cobra Patriot selling on Auction Arms
For anyone looking to get their hands on a Cobra Patriot .45 for a great price, I just happened to notice one w/2 magazines up for bid @
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?ItemNum=5495900
For anyone looking to get their hands on a Cobra Patriot .45 for a great price, I just happened to notice one w/2 magazines up for bid @
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?ItemNum=5495900
Tropical Z
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I called the factory to see about using officers 1911,6 rounders and the guy said that they can be used with modification.What does that mean? I thought that a 6 rounder would fit fine and flush-is this not true?
Badger Arms
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No, the Colt magazines are at a different angle than the Patriot. They lock and feed, but the floorplate is at a funny angle.
The Cobra Arms FS380 appear to be a redesigned Lorcin, they go for about $75 I believe. I also tend to think that they have improved the quality of all the brands they have aquired, but who knows!?
CA32/320 & Derrengers = Davis
FS380 = Lorcin
Patriot .45 = Republic Arms
Patriot .380/9mm = Talon
CA32/320 & Derrengers = Davis
FS380 = Lorcin
Patriot .45 = Republic Arms
Patriot .380/9mm = Talon
Badger Arms
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IIRC, Davis and Lorcin are two names for the same outfit? You can't do much to lower the quality and reliability of this class of guns, so raising it should be a pretty simple benchmark. The newer patriot looks better than the ones I stocked when they first came out. Mine were in the 5xx serial number range. Had about 5, I think, in consecutive serial numbers in stock. All sold quickly.
WonderNine
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I'm really interested in the Patriot 9 with a hard chrome slide now. I may just have to pick one up just to tell you all whether or not it blew up in my face and if the trigger is any good...
Badger Arms
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Why? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY!???!!?! There is a reason why they copied the KelTec, because KT is the way to go. Why spend the same money on a lesser product that you can't accessorize and whos parent company MIGHT stay in business? Don't do it. Stay away from the lemons!
WonderNine
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The Patriot 9 is half the price of a P-11.
What of Kel-Tecs did they copy? I must have missed something in this thread...
What of Kel-Tecs did they copy? I must have missed something in this thread...
Tropical Z
Member
I know SOG has the patriot .45acp but other than that what wholesalers are selling the Cobra line?
southernford
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Cobra 9mm
Hey Guy's,
I ordered one of the Cobra 9's for $189.00 off of Gunbroker.com. It should be in any day now.
The slides are supposed to be stainless steel, as are all other parts except the polymer grip frame. It's supposed to be designed by some respected Israeli dude.
I own the Kimbers, Glocks, and Kahrs, but wanted to check one out for the price. I'll post how it runs and shoots out of the box, and after I do some modifications, slide melt, fluff & buff, ect.
We'll see if it really is a decent gun for a good price, as they advertise. It certainly would be nice to have something like that, that is a little more heavy duty than the Keltecs (which I have also owned).
Maybe when I open it up it will be like an Orio, w/ goody on the inside.
Hey Guy's,
I ordered one of the Cobra 9's for $189.00 off of Gunbroker.com. It should be in any day now.
The slides are supposed to be stainless steel, as are all other parts except the polymer grip frame. It's supposed to be designed by some respected Israeli dude.
I own the Kimbers, Glocks, and Kahrs, but wanted to check one out for the price. I'll post how it runs and shoots out of the box, and after I do some modifications, slide melt, fluff & buff, ect.
We'll see if it really is a decent gun for a good price, as they advertise. It certainly would be nice to have something like that, that is a little more heavy duty than the Keltecs (which I have also owned).
Maybe when I open it up it will be like an Orio, w/ goody on the inside.
Gunblast just did a report too:
http://www.gunblast.com/RKCampbell_CobraPatriot.htm
http://www.gunblast.com/RKCampbell_CobraPatriot.htm
ulflyer
Member
Not so lucky Patriot Owner
I've had a Patriot 45 for about a month or so and its gonna
have to make a trip back to the factory if they will foot the shipping bill. Reason being, is that it won't ignite a lot of WWB fmj without pulling the trigger 2 or 3 times. Ocassionally not at all. I put the same unfired bullets in my 1911 and they fired. Factory email said they use only Federal ammo for testing and suggested I use only that. Couldn't find the ammo locally so I got some Fed primers and loaded up a 100 rounds. Most of these fired on the first pull; only a few did not.
This leaves me unsatisified with its performance and its certainly not something I would carry. I should note that I had on hand a half doz Hornady HP's and each fed and fired beautifully despite the manual saying it doesnt' handle HP's well. The WWB factory ammo above is what I bought after getting similar poor results with my reloads with Winchester primers.
I've had a Patriot 45 for about a month or so and its gonna
have to make a trip back to the factory if they will foot the shipping bill. Reason being, is that it won't ignite a lot of WWB fmj without pulling the trigger 2 or 3 times. Ocassionally not at all. I put the same unfired bullets in my 1911 and they fired. Factory email said they use only Federal ammo for testing and suggested I use only that. Couldn't find the ammo locally so I got some Fed primers and loaded up a 100 rounds. Most of these fired on the first pull; only a few did not.
This leaves me unsatisified with its performance and its certainly not something I would carry. I should note that I had on hand a half doz Hornady HP's and each fed and fired beautifully despite the manual saying it doesnt' handle HP's well. The WWB factory ammo above is what I bought after getting similar poor results with my reloads with Winchester primers.
pisankihead
Member
The Cobra Patriot is utter crap, which is why I sold mine. Does the assembly pin sliding out of a pistol nearly every time you rack the slide qualify a pistol as crap? I say that it does. The factory was nice about it but never really fixed it. I sold mine to some sucker on gunbroker or auctionarms after its last trip to the factory.
dannyabear
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I just got one today, don't feel like typing report again, so if you're interested, it's on defensivecarry.com forum
Cobra Patriot - Pile of Crap
I purchased a Cobra Patriot 45 ACP about 3 months ago thinking this would be a nice concealed pistol to own as it was small and sexy for a 45. I was psyched as this was going to be a good addition to my collection of guns.
Day 1 at the range, I painfully went throug 2 boxes of 45 ammo. Every other round was a jam or a mis-retraction. The pistol struggled to let the bullets into the chamber and it equally struggled t get them out of the way once they were fired. In addition to the inability to handle ammo, the trigger on this thing was a bear. I had a blister on my trigger finger by the end of this experience. I have to say that I was seriously disappointed on that first day. I could have walked by the garbage can and simply dropped the darned thing in. What a waste of my money is what I was thinking.
After recomposing myself, I took the damned thing home and cleaned + oiled. I was still pissed off, but I figured that maybe it had not been oiled out of the factory. At this point, I am making up excuses for my poor decision to purchase this pile of crap. Never-the-less, I went through the exercise not expecting to get much out of it.
Day 2 at the range, once again, it was a repeat experience from Day 1. I was seriously pissed, but still went through 2 boxes of ammo. I was seriously mad. I went back to the place where I bought this pile and told them about the crazy jamming problems. They told me that I had to break the gun in. This really seemed odd to me as I have not had to do much of this, maybe 3-4 rounds with my Springfield, my Sig and my 1911. My rifles have gone through a couple of round break-in, not boxes of break-in. In addition to breaking the gun in, they also recommended keeping the magazine loaded as that somehow would help to eliminate this problem. I poceeded to keep the mag loaded for a few weeks and then went out again.
Day 3 at the range was a repeat of Day 1 and Day 2. This thing is a total piece of crap I was thinking. Returning the damned thing was not an option as they do not do returns on fired guns. So, now I'm stuck with a pile. So, time for me to start getting a little more creative. I went out to the gun store and bought a couple of 1911 magazines of different brands.
Day 4 at the range with new mags and cleaned gun, loaded magazines, etc. was a repeat of Day 1, 2 and 3. What a pile of crap. At this point, I've spent money destroying ammo, on new mags and wasting my time. I'm seriously pissed. So, I'm thinking, "what's next?".
I sent an e-mail to Cobra through their website, which originally had problems even accepting it's own communication system. I described the problems that I was having and included a name, number, email address and a request for what to do next. Guess what my answer was? Nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing. Unresponsive, just like their piece of crap gun.
So, next I proceeded to call the contact number to see what was up? I could never get through to a real person. Again, non-responsive, just like that piece of crap that I wasted my money on.
You might be saying, "there's a paper in the box that has an address of where to send the gun back to". Yes there is, but based on them not answering emails or phone calls, I doubt they would be any more responsive simply sending the gun back for Warranty repair.
My experience with the Cobra product that I have purchased has left me one thing and only one thing. I am out of my hard-earned money and time and I am left with a freaking paper weight. I also wrote to the magazine that did 2 articles on reviewing of this gun, I don't know what they were shooting or how many boxes they went through, but they must have bought another gun. The Cobra Patriot has proved over and over again to be a piece of crap. I believe one of the articles was titled, "Quality can be had at a low price" or some crap like that. No, Cobra produces crap and I will never buy from them again. I will send this pile back for repairs, but expect nothing to happen.
[email protected]
I purchased a Cobra Patriot 45 ACP about 3 months ago thinking this would be a nice concealed pistol to own as it was small and sexy for a 45. I was psyched as this was going to be a good addition to my collection of guns.
Day 1 at the range, I painfully went throug 2 boxes of 45 ammo. Every other round was a jam or a mis-retraction. The pistol struggled to let the bullets into the chamber and it equally struggled t get them out of the way once they were fired. In addition to the inability to handle ammo, the trigger on this thing was a bear. I had a blister on my trigger finger by the end of this experience. I have to say that I was seriously disappointed on that first day. I could have walked by the garbage can and simply dropped the darned thing in. What a waste of my money is what I was thinking.
After recomposing myself, I took the damned thing home and cleaned + oiled. I was still pissed off, but I figured that maybe it had not been oiled out of the factory. At this point, I am making up excuses for my poor decision to purchase this pile of crap. Never-the-less, I went through the exercise not expecting to get much out of it.
Day 2 at the range, once again, it was a repeat experience from Day 1. I was seriously pissed, but still went through 2 boxes of ammo. I was seriously mad. I went back to the place where I bought this pile and told them about the crazy jamming problems. They told me that I had to break the gun in. This really seemed odd to me as I have not had to do much of this, maybe 3-4 rounds with my Springfield, my Sig and my 1911. My rifles have gone through a couple of round break-in, not boxes of break-in. In addition to breaking the gun in, they also recommended keeping the magazine loaded as that somehow would help to eliminate this problem. I poceeded to keep the mag loaded for a few weeks and then went out again.
Day 3 at the range was a repeat of Day 1 and Day 2. This thing is a total piece of crap I was thinking. Returning the damned thing was not an option as they do not do returns on fired guns. So, now I'm stuck with a pile. So, time for me to start getting a little more creative. I went out to the gun store and bought a couple of 1911 magazines of different brands.
Day 4 at the range with new mags and cleaned gun, loaded magazines, etc. was a repeat of Day 1, 2 and 3. What a pile of crap. At this point, I've spent money destroying ammo, on new mags and wasting my time. I'm seriously pissed. So, I'm thinking, "what's next?".
I sent an e-mail to Cobra through their website, which originally had problems even accepting it's own communication system. I described the problems that I was having and included a name, number, email address and a request for what to do next. Guess what my answer was? Nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing. Unresponsive, just like their piece of crap gun.
So, next I proceeded to call the contact number to see what was up? I could never get through to a real person. Again, non-responsive, just like that piece of crap that I wasted my money on.
You might be saying, "there's a paper in the box that has an address of where to send the gun back to". Yes there is, but based on them not answering emails or phone calls, I doubt they would be any more responsive simply sending the gun back for Warranty repair.
My experience with the Cobra product that I have purchased has left me one thing and only one thing. I am out of my hard-earned money and time and I am left with a freaking paper weight. I also wrote to the magazine that did 2 articles on reviewing of this gun, I don't know what they were shooting or how many boxes they went through, but they must have bought another gun. The Cobra Patriot has proved over and over again to be a piece of crap. I believe one of the articles was titled, "Quality can be had at a low price" or some crap like that. No, Cobra produces crap and I will never buy from them again. I will send this pile back for repairs, but expect nothing to happen.
[email protected]
IBEWBULL
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off beat low price guns
I have been there and then some over the years.
1. Jennings .22 was a keyholers dream. It made noise and did not jam though.
2. Keltek P11 Horrible trigger pull leading to lousy hit possibility at 15 yards.
3. Not an off brand or cheap DETONICS Pocket 9 bad design blowback 9mm
bad trigger, heavy, bad sights and unbelieveable recoil.
For thse on a limited budget look at police trade in surplus or other used guns.
The 9x18 Pa63 and Makarovs have been useable. Although the Polish one had a terrible trigger.
Gun Test seemed to have some stright evaluations in their magazine.
Sorry you got a lemmon, but glad you found out before an emergency.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SearchResults.aspx
I noticed there were zero bids on any of the cobras here.
I have been there and then some over the years.
1. Jennings .22 was a keyholers dream. It made noise and did not jam though.
2. Keltek P11 Horrible trigger pull leading to lousy hit possibility at 15 yards.
3. Not an off brand or cheap DETONICS Pocket 9 bad design blowback 9mm
bad trigger, heavy, bad sights and unbelieveable recoil.
For thse on a limited budget look at police trade in surplus or other used guns.
The 9x18 Pa63 and Makarovs have been useable. Although the Polish one had a terrible trigger.
Gun Test seemed to have some stright evaluations in their magazine.
Sorry you got a lemmon, but glad you found out before an emergency.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SearchResults.aspx
I noticed there were zero bids on any of the cobras here.
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