Colonial Shooting Academy- just an experience

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DrewBegley

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Finally got a chance to go shooting at the brand new range and though I got a huge load off my shoulders in the way of zeroing an AR, I found a huge flaw in my Glock 22. I was fortunate enough to be a member's guest and all I had to worry about was getting a safety brief.

So Megan and I had to fill out a front page of paper work and give up our licenses (which we didn't get back til we got off the firing line) and then sit through a video on safety at the range. It was pretty basic and if you care about firearms, you already know the rules. We went expecting to answer some questions to make sure we didn't nod off during the video, but that didn't really happen. The 280 pound good ol' boy in jeans and a t-shirt sitting under the t.v. apparently worked there and was in charge of people passing the safety orientation. He asked us what the cardinal rules were, as a group, and I didn't answer any of them so I can imagine what kind of brain-dead people get to go shooting, the only thing keeping the idiots away is the range cost.

After that, we waited. And waited. At first, we waited because there was no room on the firing line (since only one line of 15 lanes is open to the public). Then we had to wait because the kid behind the counter couldn't get his <deleted> straight. Everyone working behind the counter was running around like a chicken with their head cut off. First it was a problem of where is the full-auto submachine gun that my group was renting, then it was which one will take its place. After that got figured out it was "Where is the ammo I want to shoot?" and while the kid couldn't find the ammo we wanted, he found what was sitting on the shelf in front of him. Keep in mind, the whole time he hasn't talked to anyone that's working with him. So then we wait some more, I don't know why, but we did. As we were about to be allowed on the range, the noticed a couple boxes of the ammo we wanted sitting on the counter, asked where it came from and was told by another employee that there were cases of it around the corner.

I'm not even including the hassle between who brought Megan and I to the range and the employee. There were computer problems and membership problems and at one point didn't even realize who's card he was scanning.

So we get on the range and it's beautiful and so worth the wait. There's a slight breeze keeping the air moving and of course, central air. We get set up with a table that no one was using, which was nice, and were in the center of the line. Unfortunately, I got the lane with the building's pillars just touching the left side of the target back. So, the second time I brought the target back, it swiped the wall and knocked off the back and the target. I informed the range officer and he literally told me to go tell the guy behind the counter (outside/off of the firing line) that the RO needed target backs and to get me a new target. Is there no comms on the range for the front desk? What if I said I wouldn't go off the line to do the job of a range employee? Anyway, I wanted to shoot so I moved on. I brushed past the first employee with his back facing me and interrupted a couple employees shooting the breeze. I asked for what I needed and they scoffed at the stupidity of the RO, as if there was a better way to go about it, and helped me out. They apologized for the inconvenience and had to go back into storage to get target backers, why they weren't in the room directly next to the counter that had targets in it, I have no idea.

So I get back on line where the RO set up the target backing and I set up my target and got to shooting. I brought the target back to me, but when you order it to return, it turns the target sideways and returns extremely fast and as it approaches the line it swings violently to face the shooter. So it shot the target/backing off the device and halfway into the lane next to me, hitting the floor. So I informed the RO (instead of reaching past the firing line) and he stuck a broom out there and dragged it back, joking that it was good he could reach it. I got it set back up and didn't have the problem again.

My next kink in the road was having an unloaded pistol and AR on the bench in front of me. They don't allow more than one firearm on the bench at a time. I'm used to Chickahominy type rules where there aren't rules pertaining to this so I normally drag out all my junk and line it up on the rail in front of me. I get tapped HARD on the back and the RO points at the AR and give's me the "cut-throat" gesture of you can't do that. So I put it in the case on the floor next to me in the lane and finish up with the pistol. When I wanted to move to a different firearm, I had to completely unload, leave the breach open and place it in my case then take out the other while maintaining a safe muzzle downrange position. I shot up the AR til I was finished with it and set it up on the bench while my girlfriend took her M&P up to the lane. Mistake, "Oh yeah, one gun at a time.", so she sat the bag on the floor with her M&P in it and I was about to pack up the AR til I noticed it was smokin hot. So the RO goes out of his way and says he can set it on an empty lane to cool while she shoots. Nice, but he picked up my AR without clearing it (no mag in, but he didn't check the chamber) and walked it pointing downrange by a lane before he put it down on the bench at the next lane. He pointed it directly at the back of a couple while he did this bird-brained maneuver. Safe direction=at the floor in this case, common sense.

After I was done and wanted to lad up my AR (my case is still two lanes over) I retrieved it and locked the bolt back as I walked it over, aiming at the ground with no mag in. A fella working there on the other side of the viewing window started banging on the window to get my attention. I looked at him and he pointed at my case, so obviously me standing there with a cleared firearm hit his button. I waited for my girlfriend to finish her mag and loaded my junk up. We left and he and a couple other employees said their bit of "Have a nice time?" and "Come back and see us, ya hear?" and we were feeling fat and happy.


I loved the place, but they still have more than a few kinks to work out. Mainly the human factor, there were idiots there (or geniuses having brain farts), but you get idiots where ever you go. I just don't want my Range Officer to be an idiot. I know what I'm doing when I handle firearms and these people made me feel like a genius. It's hard to follow someone's rules when they don't make sense, I'm not going to point a firearm downrange when I'm off the line and there are people between me and the line... That's dumb and lacks common sense. Maybe I'm just really anal, but I implore professionalism in every aspect of life and it's hard to be somewhere where most of the employees are frazzled in their duties.


p.s. The flaw in my Glock was a trigger housing pin backing nearly 100% out of the frame... After 3 mags. It's a bit older, but still a Gen 3 and has seen it's fair share of years in and out of a holster, but it shouldn't do that. I compared it to a Glock 23 I have at the house and the 23 was super tight where the 22 could be pushed out with a finger nail and the twisted with the fingers in the housing...
 
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"only one line of 15 lanes is open to the public"

There are 32 lanes. One range is 20 yards and one range is 25 yards. I love the digital target movers, punch in the distance in feet and press go. For $34.95 a month (and a $100 initiation fee), you can shoot as much as you want and not pay any hourly fee at all.

I like the staple gun system. You give them your ID and they give you a staple gun marked with your range number and lane number.

Then there's the shoot house in the basement and the 7-lane private club on the second floor that I'm way too cheap to join - $2500 fee and $200/mo.

Yes, they have new employees. They're all new because the range is new. I haven't noticed any real problems yet. I somehow even managed to get in the door and bought my membership before the actual grand opening. :)

The sandwiches at the Mosaic Cafe are really good, too.

And the Colt SAA I transferred in only cost me $20 as a member.

John
 
That's awesome! Again, it was just the first impression and I had a great time, just more kinks than when I've gone to Cavalier. I intend to join, just haven't made myself do it yet.

From what I remember there was just one firing line open at the time, just to the left behind the rent-a-gun counter. Only Military and LEO are allowed in the basement, though I got a tour early on and just love how they've made the modular sliding walls.
 
You were on range 2.

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I got an email not long ago that said, iirc, the shoot house is open to members on Thur 6 to 9 and Sat 9 to 12 after they pass the "holster qualification". They're also using it for IDPA.

They spent so much money on the renovation I feel like I should dress up before I go. :)

John

P.S. - Here's the email on the shoot house:

"Members Only
Every Saturday morning from 9am-12pm and Thursday evening from 6-9pm the tactical range will be open to CSA members who have completed the holster qualification course. Must present certification card for entry."
 
The view from just inside the front door. The counter and ranges in the previous pic are all the way in the back and up the steps (sort of behind the hanging Handguns sign.) The cafe is off to the left of the t-shirts in the foreground. The gunsmith is just off to the right.

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I've been to CSA three times now, and it's been really great each time. The staff has been friendly and professional - and they keep the registration \ lane check-in area moving despite the pretty high volume of people. Also great that you can shoot your own ammo - which is not the case at the other indoor range in town. I hope these guys are making buckets of money and enjoy a lot of success.

Not to threadjack, but has anyone tried their gunsmith?
 
I sent a guy at work over there to talk to the guy about the trigger pull on his J-frame. He had it lightened and was extremely happy with the work. That's all I know.

John
 
I was over there on Monday and maybe I was lucky but the gentleman that waited on me was on the ball. I did think maybe there were too many helpers, range officers, or others inside range 2. It's a first class facility and nicely done. Quite different than our other range.......
 
The flaw in my Glock was a trigger housing pin backing nearly 100% out of the frame... After 3 mags.
How are you holding the gun that allows the trigger housing pin to come out of the frame while shooting? If you take a proper shooting grip on the gun, there's no way for the pin to come out.

Are you talking about the trigger pin? The trigger housing pin is the plastic pin situated near the upper back of the grip, the trigger pin is the large steel pin situated above the trigger.

If the trigger pin is coming out, it's because the slide stop & slide stop spring aren't doing their job. It's retained by the slide stop under the force of the slide stop spring. The slide stop engages a groove in the trigger pin and should prevent it from coming out.
 
Not the trigger pin, I have a 3-pin Glock. I had a two hand grip overlaying my thumbs and the locking block pin backed out, not the trigger housing pin or trigger pin. Definitely getting my pins mixed up.
 
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What a pain, sounds like a huge hassle for some shooting time. No indoor range I've been to handed me 1/5th of that type of inconvenience. Ouch.
Was this range the only choice available?
I guess I'm spoiled with my city maintained, un monitored outdoor range.
 
The place is new, but it's not a hassle to shoot there, it really isn't. I gave them my member card and driver's license and they gave me a staple gun with my range number and lane. When I was finished I turned it in. I paid for a target and one box of ammo, but that was easy.

The sandwiches in the cafe are good, too. The roast beef was real, not sliced deli meat.

John
 
The last time I was in an indoor range, My buddy Don Weiss owned the range on Midlothian, so you can tell it's been a while. The folks I have talked to that have been to Colonial said it is a real nice place, but very heavy on things being done a certain way. I hope to get there soon.
 
...the locking block pin backed out...
It's partially retained by upward pressure by the slide lock spring that bears against it, but it's also supposed to be a fairly tight fit.

You could try replacing the slide stop assembly or even just the slide stop spring to see if that helps. Might also be worth contacting Glock to see if they have oversize locking block pins.

If neither of those things work, it might also be possible to carefully file a groove around the pin on the slide lock side so that there would be a more positive engagement between the slide stop spring and the pin. You'll be able to see where to make the groove because there will already be small thin lines around the pin somewhat near the ends. Don't get carried away and make the groove too deep.
 
I'm a member of CSA, and also a student rotating 4 minutes from the range. This has resulted in 2 months of very happy lunch breaks and 9 525 bulk packs of CCI Blazer (haha) through my Mark 1.

I've also gotten to know the range pretty well. I think the "This should be done this way" is the result of the range being brand new. I joined grand opening weekend, and even since it's official opening I can tell a difference in mannerisms. I find the staff very pleasant and the time I spend on the range relaxing.

It's absolutely worth the membership, if only to take the holster qualification ($25 and 1 hour) to access the 4th (180*) range.

PS. I took my girlfriend one day. She was terrified. Sigh.
 
My wife and I stopped by CSA about a month ago and Joe gave us the nickel tour. Very impressive place.

Today we packed up a few 22 handguns and went back to shoot. We were impressed with the experience and throughly enjoyed it. All the staff was plesant and polite. The lanes are well lit and airy. Spent brass doesn't litter the floor.

We drive down to Richmond at least once a week. I can see more trips in our future.
 
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