Colorado proposed BGC Law - Hubby stays home

[Keb]

I called Sen. GAIL SCHWARTZ OFFICE. They don't understand new law.

Suppose wife wants to take an airplane trip to go see the grandkids. If she is gone for more than three days, and leaves her pistol at home especially because of air travel rules, then hubby has to get a background check because he is in possession.

Local FFLs here do not want any part of doing these checks.

So wife comes back home. Now she needs her transfer back via FFL.

Law is unclear how gun kept in the home can be legal when both spouses would have access. Think about a car gun totally legal here now...but car driven by both married people. If hubby is a semi truck driver gone for the week, he can't leave his Glock for the Mrs.

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There is spouse language.... but get this! No gay partner language!!!!!

You can lend a gun for fishing or hunting. But not hiking, atv travel, snowmobile, horsebacking, or water craft.

I have sent her a letter, several emails, and a phone call. No response from the first two, and the impression that her staff is clueless.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Who says the don't understand
It's entirely the POINT of such harassment legislation
to make it too painful to own gun,
the they say
"See we didn't ban guns''

 

[RJTravel]

Dual ownership - just like your house or vehicle.

 

[MErl]

it is harassment legislation.

That temporary transfer portion like you described will be universally ignored. Someday they'll use it as yet another charge to throw at someone who pissed them off and say "see the law works"

 

[Slotback]

If passed, I see a lot of non compliance.

 

[MErl]

It will pass, no stopping it. Not one D has said they do not support it.

I expect compliance when normal folk transfer to strangers. The rest of it, probably not.

 

[Texan Scott]

PITA legislation... harassment of the law-abiding... will not prevent a crime... the usual. They do NOT care about you legal rights; why should they consider common sense or your convenience?

If it's possible to draft and file your own NFA trust paperwork, why not draft a general firearms trust the same way? Yes, I know you shouldn't HAVE TO... but if you did, and filed it at the courthouse, it wouldn't matter any more. The gun would be property of "KEB family LLC " and never transferred out of a designated corporate officer's control.

Idiot officials wanna play paper games? Outgame them.

 

[CoRoMo]

No gay partner language!!!!!

I imagine that the law will be challenged on this point.

If a court finds that the law is unconstitutionally discriminatory, I don't know if their ruling simply states that the law will have to be enforced without discriminatory application or if the law is struck as unconstitutional and the legislature has to start over.

 

[X-Rap]

Registration is the only way for this to work or no one will know who owns what.

 

[Zak Smith]

If it is passed as it is now, you can "gift" it between family members without a UBC.

 

[Keb]

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...IE7fEk&sig=AHIEtbQ-By7SnPSPGAfY23QvujsHU7PrRw

If it is a gift. ( seems that there was a 72 hour clause on the gift issue but that might be in the Senate version. )

I will give another bad aspect:
Suppose you are going on a long vacation and you want your firearms locked up.
Can a friend with a good safe hold them? No.

Suppose it is 10 hanguns. If they are kept by an FFL, you will suffer a multiple gun return cost, and the way I see it, a Federal multiple handgun report. Can your bank safety deposit be used? What if they are frightened of the law?

15+ round mags: grandfathered. But no way in the law to establish the date. And you must maintain possession. So if you leave home, maybe take an airplane trip....can' t take it along. Have you surrendered possession? What if your wife has the safe combo?

Cop stops you while you have 16 round mag. You have pre law date photo in a certified mail envelope unopened. But it is 200 miles away back home. Does the Cop seize your magazine? Or the gun?