Colt 45ACP Ammunition
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il.bill
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I do have one comment - I still think the 'prancing pony' logo looks neat.
Evil-Twin
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Have you tried this stuff? I always say, " I cant afford to buy anything too cheap. "
I carry a 45 ACP every waking hour, and I only shoot the same ammo in practice that I carry in my EDC. Hornady 230 gr. +P JHP
Everyone has different priorities, when purchasing ammo... thanks for the heads up... the stuff is cheap enough... many 45ACP guns only like certain flavors of 45ACP ammo.
I carry a 45 ACP every waking hour, and I only shoot the same ammo in practice that I carry in my EDC. Hornady 230 gr. +P JHP
Everyone has different priorities, when purchasing ammo... thanks for the heads up... the stuff is cheap enough... many 45ACP guns only like certain flavors of 45ACP ammo.
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The only steel-cased handgun ammunition I have ever run is 9x18mm Makarov, and occasionally some .380 ACP through my CZ83. I figure the eastern European pistols (and their extractors) were designed around such steel case ammo.
When I first saw the link for "Colt" branded .45 ACP at that price I was shocked, but looking at the cartridge specs I understood what was going on. I had a deja-vu moment, flashing back to the first time I saw a Schwinn, the Cadillac of bicycles when I was growing up over 50 years ago in a small midwestern town, priced 'cheap' in a Chinese made version at Wal-Mart or K-mart or wherever it was.
As folks have said elsewhere, the "Colt" name apparently has marketable value, and probably always will, even if they come to no longer manufacture firearms at some point in the future.
When I first saw the link for "Colt" branded .45 ACP at that price I was shocked, but looking at the cartridge specs I understood what was going on. I had a deja-vu moment, flashing back to the first time I saw a Schwinn, the Cadillac of bicycles when I was growing up over 50 years ago in a small midwestern town, priced 'cheap' in a Chinese made version at Wal-Mart or K-mart or wherever it was.
As folks have said elsewhere, the "Colt" name apparently has marketable value, and probably always will, even if they come to no longer manufacture firearms at some point in the future.
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cheygriz
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I've used hundreds of rounds of Silver Bear in an AR-10, and it's been excellent. I've used thousands of rounds of Wolf in 9MM, 40 and .223 with no adverse effects.
If steel cases break your extractor, it was defective to start with.
The U.S, military used tens of millions of rounds of steel cased, AMERICAN MANUFACTURED .45 in pistols and SMGs kin WW2.
Some myths seem to live forever. Steel cases being 'bad" for your weapon is one of those myths.
If steel cases break your extractor, it was defective to start with.
The U.S, military used tens of millions of rounds of steel cased, AMERICAN MANUFACTURED .45 in pistols and SMGs kin WW2.
Some myths seem to live forever. Steel cases being 'bad" for your weapon is one of those myths.
ljnowell
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My newest midway flier listed Winchester 45 ACP for 13.99/box.
jr_roosa
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I have some WWII surplus steel cased 45 Auto GI Ball in the cabinet from my dad's stash. He says that they were way short on copper then, and steel pennies and steel pistol cases were used. I think I have a steel penny laying around in a drawer somewhere too.
-J.
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with powder, primer and bullet prices at near all time highs, and ammo prices falling, the delta is really shrinking.
If you're not casting your own free wheel weights, the economy erodes very quickly.
If you're not casting your own free wheel weights, the economy erodes very quickly.
Evil-Twin
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You just have to prioritize your purchases... based on your monthly income.
1. Ammo
2. Medicine
3. food
4. Bills
1. Ammo
2. Medicine
3. food
4. Bills
Evil-Twin
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If you can not afford it with a smile, then its too expensive... if you can smile and be happy you can have it delivered to your door, then its not too expensive... IM happy and IM smiling.. and most of all, IM shooting
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I would buy some just for the artwork on the box.
Jim Watson
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Just kind of sad to put that emblem on a foreign import.
243winxb
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This will not be cheap.
steelerdude99
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Like it or not "Branding" is what we have in this country for gun and non-gun items; so much of the US economy is based on "the brand". Quality and product origin have taken a back seat. I expect that sooner or later lobbyists will soon want to do away with the legal requirements to stamp a product's county of manufacture on imported items. All they need to do is deem the stamping of the county of manufacture as racist.
chuck
PS: As it's so out in the open, I expect whomever owns the "Colt brand" was compensated.
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I have no problem with Colt - or any other manufacturer - licensing it's brand name to good quality ammunition or accessories. Even an overseas vendor. Particularly for Colt, as any ancillary revenue stream is desperately needed for them.
What I do question is licensing a great brand name onto a mediocre-at-best product from Barnaul of Russia (apparently). That seems highly inconsistent with Colt trying to maintain a premium on their brand. But it is consistent with Colt management's questionable decision making.
I'm curious as to why Barnaul ... ?. Why not PMC or Seller and Bellot, for instance?
And who at Colt thought that a steel cased, Berman primed carriage fit the Colt "brand"?
As Jerry Seinfeld would said ... "who are these marketing geniuses."
Assuming of course the manufacturer actually has rights to use Colts brand name and trademark
What I do question is licensing a great brand name onto a mediocre-at-best product from Barnaul of Russia (apparently). That seems highly inconsistent with Colt trying to maintain a premium on their brand. But it is consistent with Colt management's questionable decision making.
I'm curious as to why Barnaul ... ?. Why not PMC or Seller and Bellot, for instance?
And who at Colt thought that a steel cased, Berman primed carriage fit the Colt "brand"?
As Jerry Seinfeld would said ... "who are these marketing geniuses."
Assuming of course the manufacturer actually has rights to use Colts brand name and trademark
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ljnowell
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The questionable decisions have been coming from colt for some time. Learning what we have about management throughout this bankruptcy explains a lot.
It's not about maintaining the brand, it's about milking every penny out of it before it gets sold as a trademark to be put on someone else's product.
steelerdude99
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I doubt that Colt has much to do with the steel cased Berdan (spelling checked and verified) primed ammo other than collecting a royalty. I also speculate that the ammo was already made before anyone wanted to sell it with a Colt branded box.
chuck
PS: Years ago, I saw Chinese made Smith and Wesson knives in the mid to late 1990's. What did S&W have to do their design? I doubt much, but they accepted the royalty.
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Of course, but that was not my point. Perhaps I was just being rhetorical. Colt is not in the ammo business, and Colt's incompetent management were just looking at some extra revenue. However, it's pretty brain dead to allow your brand to be stuck on ammo that some (even many) of us would not even run through a Colt 1911.
And, of course, Colt management/owners just saw this as a way to turn an easy buck, not considering brand reputation, etc...
Case in point, we (in my own company) had a team from the sales and marketing groups approach management about a licensing deal to put our brand on another company's product, for both a flat fee and per unit royalties. Seemingly a nice arrangement, until we saw the utter cr*p that was coming out under our brand name. The licensing arrangement was terminated (after several months of wrangling), and those tasked with overseeing the licensing arrangement were all sacked (and I mean whisked out of the building).
Of course, our management team clearly has a different attention to brand integrity and long term strategy than the Colt management team.
Apples and oranges, IMHO. If you got to the Colt, S&W, SigSauer online store, you can find all all sorts of knick knacks, accessories, knives and hats that were manufactured under license overseas, including China.
Ammunition is a different matter - since it is part of the operation of the firearms (the primary product line) of each company. And in this case, the ammunition is something I would not think about running through any of my Colts ...
Such are the foibles of autocorrect on a tablet ...
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Hmmm, scoured Mr. Potterfield's site to no avail. The cheapest they show is $17.79 for Tula and closer to $30 for Winchester white box. link here:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/29...-grain-full-metal-jacket?cm_vc=ProductFinding
At that rate I'll continue seating plated 230gr bullets over 5.5gr 800-X in my organic free range brass
Prices would have to drop below $12 a box for me to consider laying in another 500 "ready to shoot" bullets. I'll probably never buy factory .45ACP ammo again in this lifetime. YMMV- Status
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