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Who:
A co worker who had trained with Rob before as well as a few other courses and schools. Then me of course, I have trained at Blackwater , TDI Ohio, and Tactical response. There were 3-4 computer techs that were at the class, and then a local guy. Day one, there were 7 of us. Day 2 there were just 3 of us. Students guns included an xd(mine), a couple glocks, a 23 or 2 and a 27, a cz, a 1911(nighthawk) the 1911 made it all the way through the class, no gun issues but a mag related issue.
Rob Pincus was the one and only Instructor, he is a great person and instructor, I was honored to meet and be able to train under him, and in the CFS Program. Very Intelligent and he knows the ins and outs of shooting/ fighting/ dynamic critical incidents/training, and so much more. He had jokes when the time was right. Talked to us like people and didn’t try to be all hard and like some drill SGT. No show, no flashing lights and pyro, no fronts, or a huge ego about him, just the real deal, he shows 110% dedication to the student/ training/ the CFS system/ the whole package.
What:
Combat Focused Shooting 2 day course.
Gear:
XD service model .40 before the class had over 9k through it, and been through courses and comps in the past. Once again it proved itself no issues with the gun through the course. Still a believer and will continue to shoot, train, and compete with the XD.
Blade tech, OWB holster. G2G as always.
SA, Factory magazines, no issues at all. And there actually mud on the range and in the magazines.
Blade tech double magazine holder, g2g as always.
Caldwell Electronic ear pro, had some buzzing periodically, they aren’t the best but they work.
Uplula Magazine loader(a got to have). I won’t load any semi auto handgun mags without one again.
Ammo:
All reloads, approx 400rds or rainier 165gr with 6.5gr unique at 1.120” OAL with Winchester small pistol primers and more than 1300rds of 180gr lead with 4.0gr bullseye at 1.120” OAL, and CCI primers. The Fmj was great no issues at all. There were however some issues with my lead reloads, but other than that it went well. I fired 1320rds in the 2 days.
I did the 2 days totally from concealment. I was wearing what I normally do when I carry which is the best way to do it in my opinion. Train as you fight.
Where:
Outside of Temple GA, on a local Pd range. Approx 25yds long, and 10 lanes wide. Thanks to the local pd for allowing us the range and helping us out through the class with targets etc.
When:
on saturday the 6th it was cold and overcast, on Sunday the 7th it was sunny but still cold.
Class room time:
There really wasn’t any classroom there, but Rob did go into great detail about the CFS system and explained everything very well to us. Also discussed what happens during a dynamic critical incident. Lectures and discussions would arise when needed or before a new drill/ skill was trained. Questions were asked and answered in a way that proved how serious and professional Rob is about the CFS system and training. The how was told as well as the why, even the science behind the why was discussed in great length, and a great understanding was had by all. If there was a student that left without having a question answered then it was on the student. There was a debrief after both days for last minute questions, comments and concerns.
Range Time:
Day one started off good but slow, as there were students in the class that either didn’t know how to do basic things, ie run their gun and gear. These issues were addressed and squared away quickly so the class could progress, and it did so pretty rapidly. Day two started fast and didn’t even come close to slowing down until the end.
Drills covered:
This list of drills may not seem impressive or extensive, but I assure you it was plenty, and though there wasn’t a lot of quantity in the drills the quality was awesome. As well we got lots of reps on each drill to really drive home the concepts of the CFS system. I was successfully able to figure out at what range and what size targets I was able to shoot at what speed, to achieve combat accurate hits.
There has to be a lot of reps and high round count as this program fits the end user in my opinion, the amount of skill and application of skill the student has is different from one student to the next. This allows you to be better, there is no magic shooting techniques that are perfect for everyone, and not all students are eqaual. Some students can hit more accurately, some can shoot faster with acceptable hits, and some need to slow down to get the right hits. Shooter dependent. So you have to have a lot of reps to figure out what you can do at what range and, what size target and how fast. Do I need to use my sights? At this range no, at this range yes. That is all on the individual level. No instructor can tell you the answers you have to figure it out. You have to push yourself, hear those tires squeal. You won't know how fast and hard you can go until you try, and really push yourself. Figuring out how much deviation control you need in a certain situation was a great thing to figure out. As well. Where can I get away with out my sights. Where do I need to go slower etc. This class wasn't about shooting tiny groups, it was about getting hits on a target that is gonna greatly effect hi/her ability to threaten and or hurt you. This also wasn't some class where you see how many rounds you can shoot in .5 seconds. get the hits.
The compressed ready position was gone over and we got a lot of reps from that position, first with single rounds per engagement, to 2-3 to 4-6 by the mid to end of day 2. The drills built apon each other and became more dynamic and complex as the day went by. Adding in reloads which were all conducted from that center hold position which i totally agree with a prefer, that was from slide lock. scan/ assesing the sittuation. Latteral movemnet off the line of attack. Malfunction clearance with 2 hands, and weak and strong hand only. Shooting weak and strong only. Individual attention was given if need be especially one the 1st day, but the second the 3 of us were pretty much good to go, and there were few issues.
Slovakian malfunction clearance
Figure 8 drill, this drill sounds cool in the book but you won't be able to get the full effect unless you do it, and do it right.
Weak strong hand shooting, reloads and manipulations.
Shooting in motion.
Balance of speed and precision, different size targets at different ranges. the most time was spent on this, through out both days.
From the high compressed ready, and the holster. Lots of holster work.
Lots of cognitive drills. adding numbers drills, drills to get your mind totally off the shooting aspects.
1 rd per engagement, 2-3, 4-6 rounds etc.
Push your limits drill
Laps drill
Distances from 5-12yds, all size different targets that represented the “combat accurate” area of a target.
There are more drills that i am forgeting but i will post as i remember, and go over my notes.
Future Training:
I would like to take the instructor level class in the future and do plan on it. And of course I am will continue to train other places as well. I have a long list.
Conclusion:
After the 2 days with Rob, I now shoot faster and more accurately while shooting fast than ever before. I was able to achieve the same hits as before but at much faster times. Rob commented that he believes that I speed up by 30%. I was still able to get the hits that I needed, quicker and more efficiently. This class was well worth the money and the trip there. The content and the info alone was well worth the money. The range time and critiques made it even better.
I don’t consider this a basic pistol course. You as well as the rest of the class would be better served if the student of the CFS system at least had a little grasp on the fundamentals, and basics before attending. Both the student and the fellow class mates would get the most out of it this way. It is not a hard class and definitely adaptable to the students though.
This is an awesome class that I highly recommend, his classes, books, videos, etc are all awesome and well worth the time and money. If a student leaves this class the same as they came in there is something that is wrong,and Rob isn't the one to blame, but it is purely on the student. There has never been a training course that I have been too that I would take the same exact one again, but in the future I can definetly see myself taking this one again.
If you have read the book great, and you might just dismiss it like some do, now take a class and see the context, and get the content and I bet that you will be a better shooter, and fighter with a handgun because of it. If you haven’t read the book you need too, and then go train with Rob.
A co worker who had trained with Rob before as well as a few other courses and schools. Then me of course, I have trained at Blackwater , TDI Ohio, and Tactical response. There were 3-4 computer techs that were at the class, and then a local guy. Day one, there were 7 of us. Day 2 there were just 3 of us. Students guns included an xd(mine), a couple glocks, a 23 or 2 and a 27, a cz, a 1911(nighthawk) the 1911 made it all the way through the class, no gun issues but a mag related issue.
Rob Pincus was the one and only Instructor, he is a great person and instructor, I was honored to meet and be able to train under him, and in the CFS Program. Very Intelligent and he knows the ins and outs of shooting/ fighting/ dynamic critical incidents/training, and so much more. He had jokes when the time was right. Talked to us like people and didn’t try to be all hard and like some drill SGT. No show, no flashing lights and pyro, no fronts, or a huge ego about him, just the real deal, he shows 110% dedication to the student/ training/ the CFS system/ the whole package.
What:
Combat Focused Shooting 2 day course.
Gear:
XD service model .40 before the class had over 9k through it, and been through courses and comps in the past. Once again it proved itself no issues with the gun through the course. Still a believer and will continue to shoot, train, and compete with the XD.
Blade tech, OWB holster. G2G as always.
SA, Factory magazines, no issues at all. And there actually mud on the range and in the magazines.
Blade tech double magazine holder, g2g as always.
Caldwell Electronic ear pro, had some buzzing periodically, they aren’t the best but they work.
Uplula Magazine loader(a got to have). I won’t load any semi auto handgun mags without one again.
Ammo:
All reloads, approx 400rds or rainier 165gr with 6.5gr unique at 1.120” OAL with Winchester small pistol primers and more than 1300rds of 180gr lead with 4.0gr bullseye at 1.120” OAL, and CCI primers. The Fmj was great no issues at all. There were however some issues with my lead reloads, but other than that it went well. I fired 1320rds in the 2 days.
I did the 2 days totally from concealment. I was wearing what I normally do when I carry which is the best way to do it in my opinion. Train as you fight.
Where:
Outside of Temple GA, on a local Pd range. Approx 25yds long, and 10 lanes wide. Thanks to the local pd for allowing us the range and helping us out through the class with targets etc.
When:
on saturday the 6th it was cold and overcast, on Sunday the 7th it was sunny but still cold.
Class room time:
There really wasn’t any classroom there, but Rob did go into great detail about the CFS system and explained everything very well to us. Also discussed what happens during a dynamic critical incident. Lectures and discussions would arise when needed or before a new drill/ skill was trained. Questions were asked and answered in a way that proved how serious and professional Rob is about the CFS system and training. The how was told as well as the why, even the science behind the why was discussed in great length, and a great understanding was had by all. If there was a student that left without having a question answered then it was on the student. There was a debrief after both days for last minute questions, comments and concerns.
Range Time:
Day one started off good but slow, as there were students in the class that either didn’t know how to do basic things, ie run their gun and gear. These issues were addressed and squared away quickly so the class could progress, and it did so pretty rapidly. Day two started fast and didn’t even come close to slowing down until the end.
Drills covered:
This list of drills may not seem impressive or extensive, but I assure you it was plenty, and though there wasn’t a lot of quantity in the drills the quality was awesome. As well we got lots of reps on each drill to really drive home the concepts of the CFS system. I was successfully able to figure out at what range and what size targets I was able to shoot at what speed, to achieve combat accurate hits.
There has to be a lot of reps and high round count as this program fits the end user in my opinion, the amount of skill and application of skill the student has is different from one student to the next. This allows you to be better, there is no magic shooting techniques that are perfect for everyone, and not all students are eqaual. Some students can hit more accurately, some can shoot faster with acceptable hits, and some need to slow down to get the right hits. Shooter dependent. So you have to have a lot of reps to figure out what you can do at what range and, what size target and how fast. Do I need to use my sights? At this range no, at this range yes. That is all on the individual level. No instructor can tell you the answers you have to figure it out. You have to push yourself, hear those tires squeal. You won't know how fast and hard you can go until you try, and really push yourself. Figuring out how much deviation control you need in a certain situation was a great thing to figure out. As well. Where can I get away with out my sights. Where do I need to go slower etc. This class wasn't about shooting tiny groups, it was about getting hits on a target that is gonna greatly effect hi/her ability to threaten and or hurt you. This also wasn't some class where you see how many rounds you can shoot in .5 seconds. get the hits.
The compressed ready position was gone over and we got a lot of reps from that position, first with single rounds per engagement, to 2-3 to 4-6 by the mid to end of day 2. The drills built apon each other and became more dynamic and complex as the day went by. Adding in reloads which were all conducted from that center hold position which i totally agree with a prefer, that was from slide lock. scan/ assesing the sittuation. Latteral movemnet off the line of attack. Malfunction clearance with 2 hands, and weak and strong hand only. Shooting weak and strong only. Individual attention was given if need be especially one the 1st day, but the second the 3 of us were pretty much good to go, and there were few issues.
Slovakian malfunction clearance
Figure 8 drill, this drill sounds cool in the book but you won't be able to get the full effect unless you do it, and do it right.
Weak strong hand shooting, reloads and manipulations.
Shooting in motion.
Balance of speed and precision, different size targets at different ranges. the most time was spent on this, through out both days.
From the high compressed ready, and the holster. Lots of holster work.
Lots of cognitive drills. adding numbers drills, drills to get your mind totally off the shooting aspects.
1 rd per engagement, 2-3, 4-6 rounds etc.
Push your limits drill
Laps drill
Distances from 5-12yds, all size different targets that represented the “combat accurate” area of a target.
There are more drills that i am forgeting but i will post as i remember, and go over my notes.
Future Training:
I would like to take the instructor level class in the future and do plan on it. And of course I am will continue to train other places as well. I have a long list.
Conclusion:
After the 2 days with Rob, I now shoot faster and more accurately while shooting fast than ever before. I was able to achieve the same hits as before but at much faster times. Rob commented that he believes that I speed up by 30%. I was still able to get the hits that I needed, quicker and more efficiently. This class was well worth the money and the trip there. The content and the info alone was well worth the money. The range time and critiques made it even better.
I don’t consider this a basic pistol course. You as well as the rest of the class would be better served if the student of the CFS system at least had a little grasp on the fundamentals, and basics before attending. Both the student and the fellow class mates would get the most out of it this way. It is not a hard class and definitely adaptable to the students though.
This is an awesome class that I highly recommend, his classes, books, videos, etc are all awesome and well worth the time and money. If a student leaves this class the same as they came in there is something that is wrong,and Rob isn't the one to blame, but it is purely on the student. There has never been a training course that I have been too that I would take the same exact one again, but in the future I can definetly see myself taking this one again.
If you have read the book great, and you might just dismiss it like some do, now take a class and see the context, and get the content and I bet that you will be a better shooter, and fighter with a handgun because of it. If you haven’t read the book you need too, and then go train with Rob.
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