Here are my guns that I shoot once a week (200 or so rounds total per week)
1. Glock 19 (3rd gen, 3.5 connector, A-grips)
2. Beretta 92 Brigadier (with skeletonized hammer and “D” model mainspring, not that this matters all that much)
3. Sig 229 in 9mm (stock)
Let me start by saying that the past one million posts comparing these guns have mentioned stuff like ‘these guns jam in Iraq with the dust and sand’ and ‘the glock functioned fine after dropping it out of a plane flying at 500 feet’, but I will be focusing mainly on stuff that the average guy cares about. I’m not gonna bring my guns and shoot them in a dust storm, nor do I want to drop them out of a plane. I enjoy shooting at an indoor range, and I clean my guns after every 500 rounds or so. So here is my list of pros and cons, some subjective, some objective.
Oh, and before I begin, all 3 have had good reliability with over 5000 rounds through them. (only problems I ever experienced were: Sig failed to cycle once.. sig recoil spring seems to be heavier than beretta… beretta slide failed to lock back after final round a few times.. and glock, no problems yet! Oh, all these problems were with underpowered miwall reloads.. ZERO problems when using factory ammo.) All 3 are very accurate, and I’m sure they are more accurate than I can shoot them. Plus, none of these guns are ‘target’ guns NOR have target sights, so I don’t see the point in trying to shoot a 1.5 inch group at 25 yards with the factory sights. All 3 have plenty of aftermarket stuff and easy to find holsters.
Beretta
Pros:
- John Mclane, Martin Riggs, LAPD and LA sheriffs use it
- Good looking compared to sig and glock
- action is smooth as glass (when you rack the slide, it is very smooth, no squeaky springs like glocks)
- open ejection port looks cool (I think beretta is best looking gun with slide locked back)
- not that this matters too much, but the gun’s ‘image’ compares to a ferrari whereas a glock compares to a workhorse ford truck (build ford tough!!)
- fit and finish ‘feel’ best out of these 3 guns (part of this I think has to do with the glassy action and the lack of squeaky springs
- least recoil of these 3 by far- gun is heavy so follow up shots are much easier to keep on target.
- All metal
Cons:
- many say too big for a 9mm (a big issue for people that carry, but if you’re an average range shooter, who cares how big it is. Plus, 92 was never meant for ccw)
- my pants sag when I put the beretta with full mag on my hip… need a heavy duty best to not pull my pants down cause its so heavy.. opposite for my glock, where I can just stuff it in a kydex and pants don’t sag at all.
- finish is not as durable as glock (some parts of the slide are wearing off the black bruniton finish just from placing the gun on the counter when reloading)
- long trigger pull (and trigger is skinny and polymer so doenst feel as secure as fat sig metal trigger)
- heavy double action trigger pull with stock mainspring so my first shot is off-line almost all the time. (but then again, I only shoot the first shot double action 1% of the time at the range)
- safety is on slide, and I wish it were on frame, like on a Taurus
- factory plastic grips aint all that good, and the grip is fat= I wish they would make a deeper cut on top portion of grip frame.
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Glock 19
Pros:
- NYPD issue
- super light (for those who carry, you cant beat a light, accurate, reliable gun with 15 rounds in the clip)
- tenifer is the best finish ever (I’ve fired thousands of rounds thorough it, and the slide and barrel almost look brand new- still glassy coating on it)
- trigger is a constant pull weight so predictable
- it’s a ‘cool’ gun you see in movies a lot, just like the beretta
- feels really rugged like you can abuse it and not a ‘pretty boy’ like the beretta (no wonder why people want to throw it out of planes in their torture tests)
Cons:
- since gun is light, it is snappy when you fire it, esp. with +Ps
- the sights are really crappy… I mean they work ok, but they are plastic and cheap looking compared to beretta and sig’s metal sights.
- You feel like it’s a ‘cheap’ gun even though its very high quality (because its polymer and the springs squeak every time you rack the slide)
- It’s the ugliest gun ever made in the history of mankind
- Grip angle kinda feels funny (although high bore axis is great)
- It squeaks (doesn’t affect function at all, but it bugs me that it sounds so cheapy)
- Mags feel cheap and plasticky also
- The shape of grip does not fit a human hand that good for a nice tight grip
- Grip gets slippery when hands sweat (but I have A-grip, so its fine.. btw, A-grips are the best.. all glock owners should get it!!!)
SIG
Pros:
- Jack Bauer used it for a while
- for me, the most accurate out of the bunch (the difference is minimal tho)
- I actually like the two-dot sights.. very easy to center your aim as opposed to the 3-dots, where you have to put the front sight perfectly in between the two rears.
- homeland security, SEALS… need I say more about the ‘cool’ factor?
- The slide is nice and beefy and forged and stainless, unlike the stamped 228 (this don’t matter either for a guy who only shoots at ranges, but the consensus is that forged is preferable to stamped)
- Stainless so it wont rust as easy??
- Feels like a tank.. very solid
- All metal
- Kinda like the factory sandpaper-ish grips. Nice and skinny, and you can get a decent grip on it..
Cons:
- my 229 in 9mm is top-heavy and does not balance well… until you load it with 10 rounds (friggin California!!) to counter the heavy slide
- the ergonomics suck in my opinion. I do not like location of slide release, and every time I engage the slide release, it pinches my hand
- its not a particularly beautiful gun
- the checkering on frontstrap really doenst help to grip
- the smileys that form on the barrel are ugly and make the gun look really ‘used’
- heavy double action pull, even though it has one of nicest single actions pulls
- why is there a bulge on the left grip where your stong hand thumb is supposed to go???
- Hate that 10 round mags have that bottom portion with that ‘welded’ look..
some random questions for those experts out there to answer:
1. I know glock is a great gun, but isn’t glock popular with feds and police b/c of PRICE and ease of maintenance as opposed to being better in tests than beretta or sig or whatever?
2. are military issued M9s IDENTICAL to commercial 92fs, or is there slide not finished in the glassy, Teflon style you see for commercial guns. (the pictures of M9s I see always look ‘rougher’ than commercial ones in terms of finish)
For everyone who took the time to read this long post, comments??
1. Glock 19 (3rd gen, 3.5 connector, A-grips)
2. Beretta 92 Brigadier (with skeletonized hammer and “D” model mainspring, not that this matters all that much)
3. Sig 229 in 9mm (stock)
Let me start by saying that the past one million posts comparing these guns have mentioned stuff like ‘these guns jam in Iraq with the dust and sand’ and ‘the glock functioned fine after dropping it out of a plane flying at 500 feet’, but I will be focusing mainly on stuff that the average guy cares about. I’m not gonna bring my guns and shoot them in a dust storm, nor do I want to drop them out of a plane. I enjoy shooting at an indoor range, and I clean my guns after every 500 rounds or so. So here is my list of pros and cons, some subjective, some objective.
Oh, and before I begin, all 3 have had good reliability with over 5000 rounds through them. (only problems I ever experienced were: Sig failed to cycle once.. sig recoil spring seems to be heavier than beretta… beretta slide failed to lock back after final round a few times.. and glock, no problems yet! Oh, all these problems were with underpowered miwall reloads.. ZERO problems when using factory ammo.) All 3 are very accurate, and I’m sure they are more accurate than I can shoot them. Plus, none of these guns are ‘target’ guns NOR have target sights, so I don’t see the point in trying to shoot a 1.5 inch group at 25 yards with the factory sights. All 3 have plenty of aftermarket stuff and easy to find holsters.
Beretta
Pros:
- John Mclane, Martin Riggs, LAPD and LA sheriffs use it
- Good looking compared to sig and glock
- action is smooth as glass (when you rack the slide, it is very smooth, no squeaky springs like glocks)
- open ejection port looks cool (I think beretta is best looking gun with slide locked back)
- not that this matters too much, but the gun’s ‘image’ compares to a ferrari whereas a glock compares to a workhorse ford truck (build ford tough!!)
- fit and finish ‘feel’ best out of these 3 guns (part of this I think has to do with the glassy action and the lack of squeaky springs
- least recoil of these 3 by far- gun is heavy so follow up shots are much easier to keep on target.
- All metal
Cons:
- many say too big for a 9mm (a big issue for people that carry, but if you’re an average range shooter, who cares how big it is. Plus, 92 was never meant for ccw)
- my pants sag when I put the beretta with full mag on my hip… need a heavy duty best to not pull my pants down cause its so heavy.. opposite for my glock, where I can just stuff it in a kydex and pants don’t sag at all.
- finish is not as durable as glock (some parts of the slide are wearing off the black bruniton finish just from placing the gun on the counter when reloading)
- long trigger pull (and trigger is skinny and polymer so doenst feel as secure as fat sig metal trigger)
- heavy double action trigger pull with stock mainspring so my first shot is off-line almost all the time. (but then again, I only shoot the first shot double action 1% of the time at the range)
- safety is on slide, and I wish it were on frame, like on a Taurus
- factory plastic grips aint all that good, and the grip is fat= I wish they would make a deeper cut on top portion of grip frame.
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Glock 19
Pros:
- NYPD issue
- super light (for those who carry, you cant beat a light, accurate, reliable gun with 15 rounds in the clip)
- tenifer is the best finish ever (I’ve fired thousands of rounds thorough it, and the slide and barrel almost look brand new- still glassy coating on it)
- trigger is a constant pull weight so predictable
- it’s a ‘cool’ gun you see in movies a lot, just like the beretta
- feels really rugged like you can abuse it and not a ‘pretty boy’ like the beretta (no wonder why people want to throw it out of planes in their torture tests)
Cons:
- since gun is light, it is snappy when you fire it, esp. with +Ps
- the sights are really crappy… I mean they work ok, but they are plastic and cheap looking compared to beretta and sig’s metal sights.
- You feel like it’s a ‘cheap’ gun even though its very high quality (because its polymer and the springs squeak every time you rack the slide)
- It’s the ugliest gun ever made in the history of mankind
- Grip angle kinda feels funny (although high bore axis is great)
- It squeaks (doesn’t affect function at all, but it bugs me that it sounds so cheapy)
- Mags feel cheap and plasticky also
- The shape of grip does not fit a human hand that good for a nice tight grip
- Grip gets slippery when hands sweat (but I have A-grip, so its fine.. btw, A-grips are the best.. all glock owners should get it!!!)
SIG
Pros:
- Jack Bauer used it for a while
- for me, the most accurate out of the bunch (the difference is minimal tho)
- I actually like the two-dot sights.. very easy to center your aim as opposed to the 3-dots, where you have to put the front sight perfectly in between the two rears.
- homeland security, SEALS… need I say more about the ‘cool’ factor?
- The slide is nice and beefy and forged and stainless, unlike the stamped 228 (this don’t matter either for a guy who only shoots at ranges, but the consensus is that forged is preferable to stamped)
- Stainless so it wont rust as easy??
- Feels like a tank.. very solid
- All metal
- Kinda like the factory sandpaper-ish grips. Nice and skinny, and you can get a decent grip on it..
Cons:
- my 229 in 9mm is top-heavy and does not balance well… until you load it with 10 rounds (friggin California!!) to counter the heavy slide
- the ergonomics suck in my opinion. I do not like location of slide release, and every time I engage the slide release, it pinches my hand
- its not a particularly beautiful gun
- the checkering on frontstrap really doenst help to grip
- the smileys that form on the barrel are ugly and make the gun look really ‘used’
- heavy double action pull, even though it has one of nicest single actions pulls
- why is there a bulge on the left grip where your stong hand thumb is supposed to go???
- Hate that 10 round mags have that bottom portion with that ‘welded’ look..
some random questions for those experts out there to answer:
1. I know glock is a great gun, but isn’t glock popular with feds and police b/c of PRICE and ease of maintenance as opposed to being better in tests than beretta or sig or whatever?
2. are military issued M9s IDENTICAL to commercial 92fs, or is there slide not finished in the glassy, Teflon style you see for commercial guns. (the pictures of M9s I see always look ‘rougher’ than commercial ones in terms of finish)
For everyone who took the time to read this long post, comments??
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