Comparing the Ruger LCP and Beretta Pico

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Now that I've had the Beretta Pico for awhile I thought it might be fun to compare it to the very similar Ruger LCP. In this case, both pistols were bought within 6 months of each other, from the same LGS and at exactly the same price.

Both are the most recent iteration of the model.

Both were bought new.

Both were on sale at $199.99.

Both are 380acp.

Both hold 6 + 1 rounds.

They are almost identical in size with the Pico slightly skinnier.

The Pico with the mag inserted but no ammo weighs just over 11 ounces while the LCP under the same conditions weighs just under 10 ounces.

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The Ruger LCP comes with a nice little pocket holster but only one magazine while the Beretta Pico comes with a zipper folder and a second magazine.

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The Pico locks open on an empty magazine while the LCP does not. Also the magazine release on the Pico is ambidextrous while the one on the LCP is left side only. Both mags drop free on release but the LCP hits a stop on insert while the Beretta does not. The Beretta magazine is much easier to seat than the one on the LCP.

Fortunately the LCP is much easier to rack the slide than on the Pico.

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Not even a hole to allow mag release on this side:
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While we are still on the subject of magazines, they both do have witness holes on both left and right sides to check rounds remaining. The Ruger mag also has round numbers stamped while the Pico assumes you can count empty holes.

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Nether the LCP or the Pico have the dread magazine safety so it's possible to do a hot swap and fire the one in the chamber even if the magazine is removed.

Shooting at the designed distances the two are also pretty similar but the sights on the LCP can only be called such things charitably. I'm not sure it's possible to make less useful sights than what are on the LCP. The Beretta Pico though comes with real, adjustable sights designed for simple owner maintenance, adjustment and replacement. Once you start shooting out beyond 7 yards or so the better sights on the Pico really make a difference. Since that's not what the guns were designed for it's not quite as big an issue, but it is significant.

So how do the two differ?

The big elephant in the room has to be the fact that the Beretta Pico is a true double action pistol with second strike capability. Also the slide locking back on an empty mag definitely makes a difference.

The length of the LCP grip makes it possible for me to get two full fingers on the handle while with the flat base mag of the Pico it's a finger and a half. A smaller padded extension as found on the LCP magazine would really help the Pico.

The field strip procedure on the Pico is light years ahead of that on the LCP. Needing a screw driver to pry out a pin is simply not as easy as just turning the post. Once you get past that point though everything is pretty much the same.

I fit and finish the Pico definitely is way beyond the LCP. The mold lines on the LCP trigger and trigger guard needed major work before they stopped hurting my fingers. Some 400 grit Wet or Dry sand paper and few minutes or so work took care of the problem. That's not a unique problem to Ruger, I have had to do that on polymer framed guns from Taurus and Charter Arms as well. While there is a noticeable mold line on the Beretta frame it is so minor I have not bothered trying to address it. Maybe now that we are in Bowl season I'll give it a touch up job too.

Here are some images of the two sets of sights. The ones on the Beretta are milled and slotted and held in place by a .050 Allen screw while on the Ruger they are fixed and part of the slide itself.

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Nice review. I carry the LCP most of the time because I wear gym shorts a lot. Not for all day Bullseye competition, that's for sure.
 
You talked about everything but what really matters. What are the guns like to shoot? IME the Pico has the worst trigger of any gun I have ever shot, semi-auto or revolver. The only place I would carry one is to deliver it to the person I sold it to. I have never shot an LCP, so I can’t compare them.
 
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You talked about everything but what really matters. What are the guns like to shoot? IME the Pico has the worst trigger of any gun I have ever shot, semi-auto or revolver. The only place I would carry one is to deliver it to the person I sold it to. I have never shot an LCP, so I can’t compare them.
Well my Pico has a fantastic trigger, long, smooth and with a clean break. It's not the best trigger I have but certainly among the best double action triggers I've found on a modern handgun.

The Ruger trigger is weird, kind of a Rube Goldberg trigger to go with the Rube Goldberg action. The hammer gets set in a halfcock position during the recoil, reload cycle and pulling the trigger finishes cocking and releasing the hammer. But there is no second strike capability and if the pistol does not recoil and finish the reload it simply does nothing.

As I mentioned above, the fit and finish on the Ruger needed some sanding to remove mold marks and insertion nipple scars before I could comfortably use it. This was on the trigger and both the inside and outside of the trigger guard. I have two frames for my Pico and while I can see the mold marks inside the trigger guard they have been polished to where they do not cut into my finger when shooting.
 
I really like the Pico, but just can't grip that tiny frame in a way that lets my trigger finger work right. I've been holding out, hoping someone would make an aftermarket frame with a thicker backstrap but it doesn't look like it'll happen ever. I might have to just buy one and mill my own frame. As for the trigger, it is exactly what it should be for a mouse gun and I like it. I have an M&P Bodyguard which has an even heavier trigger than the Pico, and shoot it extremely well, better than my LCPII in fact. I don't understand why some feel compelled to comment on a long, heavy DA trigger. If they don't like them, they should just move on instead of comment as it just shows their own limitations.
 
The Ruger LCPII covers a few bases the LCP does not and on "deal days" can be had for very near $200.
 
I really like the Pico, but just can't grip that tiny frame in a way that lets my trigger finger work right.... I don't understand why some feel compelled to comment on a long, heavy DA trigger. If they don't like them, they should just move on instead of comment as it just shows their own limitations.
It’s wrong to trash the trigger, but it is okay to trash the grip size? LOL
 
That's just fine. Everybody's' entitled to their opinion.
Yup. That's why there are so many different things. Why I hear there are even folk that drink lite beer.

But this thread is about comparing the Pico and the LCP, not the LCP II.
 
My main problem with the Pico is that the trigger guard goes too far down the grip. That's why they are the same size, but the LCP is a "two finger" pistol and the Pico is a "one and a half finger" pistol.

Recently I owned a P3AT, a Pico, and an LCP II all at the same timee. (I got them all used at very good prices.) I took them all out to the range together to decide what my preference was.

P3AT - okay trigger, no sights to speak of, two finger grip, no hold-open with empty magazine, shot it okay

Pico - okay trigger, the best sights of the three, one-and-a-half-finger grip (due to overly large trigger guard), hold-open with empty magazine, weird two-handed magazine release, shot it okay

LCP II - the best trigger (easily), decent sights, hold-open with empty magazine, shot it the best

I'd invested next to nothing in the P3AT and traded it towards something else. My friend at the LGS said he has trouble selling Picos and couldn't give me more than $100 in trade, so I kept it "for a spare". The LCP II is the one I carry.
 
I've owned a Taurus TCP, shot a friend's LCP enough to know/understand it, and last weekend I put about 150 rounds down range through a new Pico.

Neither the TCP or LCP have much by way of sights. That said the TCP was far more accurate for me than it had any right to be! Both were pretty reliable, but not perfect. Both sting my trigger finger under recoil. I would not describe either as "fun" to shoot. Of the two, I thought the TCP had a smooth DA trigger. There's a little stacking in the LCP, but not really anything to worry about. I prefer a long DA pull for this type of small pistol and both the TCP and LCP are well suited to the role.

The Pico is a bit of a different animal. It's a high quality little pistol; much nicer than it's competitors. The trigger is smooth, but there's no discernible reset. The hammers on both the TCP and LCP are shrouded inside the slide through their full range of travel. The Pico's hammer arc moves outside the rear of the slide. This means I could put my thumb on the back of the slide to block it from moving during re-holstering. I consider that a safety feature. The Pico is also the most easily disassembled for service and cleaning. The manual even explains how to disassemble the slide and chassis. With the short magazine, it's really a "one finger" grip, but that didn't seem to hurt how well it shot. The extension turns it into a full 3-finger grip. I see some folks over on the Beretta forum cutting down the extension to create a 2-finger grip.

Back to the recoil: As I said, the TCP and LCP sting my hand to when I shoot them. The Pico felt really mild. Maybe it's the higher bore axis. I don't know, but I could shoot the Pico all afternoon and enjoy it.

As for the reliability of the Pico, well, this example needed some break-in. There were several initial failures to feed and eject, but it improved the more I shot it. Towards the end it was running pretty well, but I think this particular example would benefit from another 150-200 rounds.

I understand why the Pico is not more popular. It's a purpose driven design that doesn't have the same proportions as we expect when we look at a pistol. It looks "wrong". I think that throws people off.

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I think that my friend at the LGS said that the weird magazine release was one of the reasons he had trouble selling them.

It really is a higher-quality machine than the P3AT or LCP. It's all stainless steel with nice fit and finish.

The other two are Bic pens and the Pico is a nice metal metal ballpoint that comes in a gift box.
 
True DAO and the trigger guard mag release are huge benefits to the Pico imo. I can't really criticize the trigger with physics working so strongly against you. It's a very small gun and there is minimal mechanical advantage in the design and no comfort to be found in the grip. It feels worse than it is :)

I accidentally popped the mag on my Taurus TCP more than once, and on my second TCP the ejector sheared off during the first range trip. Taurus took care of me but my confidence was lost.
 
I've had both as well as the bg380 and currently carry the lcp II.

I carried the original lcp for a good long while. It was a tool that just worked. Went to a bg380 when it was switched to the MP line and chopped the laser and really liked the double strike. Got the hankering for a Pico and I really like the quality of the gun, but the firing pins can be a little fragile. The one year warranty kinda turned me off. I know Ruger doesnt HAVE a warranty, but their reputation and my previous experiences have always made me a fan. The stainless on the Pico is really nice, though.

When the LCP II came out, it displaced the pico and away it went. I can see how some wouldn't like the lighter trigger on a pocket gun. I dont begrudge them that. I do treat it differently than other pocket guns.

Regarding the Pico it does shoot really well. I never had a problem with mine. I just shoot the lcp II better.

I'm a bit of a .380 apologist. I like the round and carry it quite regularly. I think my next gun is going to be a Baby Rock.
 
Anyone who has reservations about the original LCP's trigger, it can be remedied with the purchase of an LCP custom, the addition of a Galloway trigger, or I believe, the new model #3790 LCP.
As for Ruger's warranty, they are wonderful and there may be some but I personally have never heard from any of our customers, a charge for a factory part failure replacement.
 
jar, I need to do the same with my Pico extended magazines. Did you run into anything unexpected while trimming?
The most unexpected thing was that the Dremel was actually where I remembered putting it about a decade ago. I did actually put lines on both sides to guide the cut. Used the "plastic" cutting wheel and a drum sander to contour then hand finish with wet-n-dry sandpaper.

I may take it down just a mm or so more.
 
The most unexpected thing was that the Dremel was actually where I remembered putting it about a decade ago. I did actually put lines on both sides to guide the cut. Used the "plastic" cutting wheel and a drum sander to contour then hand finish with wet-n-dry sandpaper.

I may take it down just a mm or so more.
I envy you guys with the eye-hand coordination to do that kind of job and not make a mess of it. Far beyond my capabilities. The only good news is that I too know where my Dremel is...lot of good it does me! :D
 
From the photos, the Pico's slide is taller than the LCP's and so are their frames below the slides. The trigger guards are the same height.

In my opinion, both are worth comparing to a Kahr P380 or CW380. Even with a 7-round extended magazine that provides room for three fingers, the Kahrs disappear in a front pocket. Their downside is price.
 
The main reason I like the Pico is its reliability. It will digest all the different 380 rounds that I’ve tried. Not so with some other 380s of similar size. Quality of materials is top notch. Also, it’s unlikely that the mag release would get accidentally activated.

My favorite is the Sig 238 though.
 
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