Beretta Pico

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I picked up my PICO. Initial out of the box and handling I'm impressed. Took it out and shot a few rounds through it, not impressed. My pistol WILL NOT feed any flat point, not FMJ flat point, not gold dots (which really disappoints me). It also will not feed BALL reliably! I only put a handful through it before getting so fed up of a jammed gun I came back in the house. I'm looking at the feed ramp profile now. The geometry on it sucks; its VERY steep.

Anyone have to do work on their feed ramps????
 
I will probably call Beretta tomorrow when I'm not so disappointed.

This may end with me getting my money back and giving up on pocket pistols.
 
98s1lightning said:
I picked up my PICO. Initial out of the box and handling I'm impressed. Took it out and shot a few rounds through it, not impressed. My pistol WILL NOT feed any flat point, not FMJ flat point, not gold dots (which really disappoints me). It also will not feed BALL reliably! I only put a handful through it before getting so fed up of a jammed gun I came back in the house. I'm looking at the feed ramp profile now. The geometry on it sucks; its VERY steep.

Anyone have to do work on their feed ramps????
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Sorry to hear about your feed issues. Not sure why it is doing this. My has feed any ammo I have put into it. Have shot all of the above. Did you remove the sub chassis and then replace it? If you did and did not get the right fit, it will jam. I mentioned in many post that I always load a magazine and let them take a "Set" for 48 hrs. Rack the slide and let the recoil spring take a set. The Pico has strong springs. What does you feed ramp look like? I have heard of only one issue where one had to be polished. I have two Pico's and both have shot thousands of rounds with no problems. (other than the time, I did not place in a new grip the right way.)
It sounds like you do not have a serious problem. I am sure it is something small. You might want to take the chassis out and replace it carefully. If not call Beretta, they have excellent Customer Service.
 
I never took the chassis out. Its brand new in the box. The feed ramp actually looks pretty good. Its not as steep as I thought once I got it out of the gun.

If you load a mag, insert it, and pull the slide back and let it go forward softly you can just watch the bullet hit the ramp and stop. Then if you apply pressure to the back of the slide it will slowly feed the more pressure you apply. but sometimes it jams once it gets past the ramp, I think the ejector is too stiff also keeping the rim (back of the cartridge) from being able to tip up and slide in easily.

I will leave the gun slide open and a mag loaded for a couple days and see if things change. I'm also going to put a rim in the ejector to hold a little tension on that spring for a bit too see if it improves.
 
Yea I won't dry fire it.

I shot it 4 or 5 times. The trigger operated fine.

Just lots of feeding and jamming issues.

I took the slide off again and looked at the lower assembly. Everything looks like it's set straight, down in on its stops, nothing looks crooked or anything like that.
 
Mine was a jammer out of the box too. Would feed about half way leaving the round at about a 45 degree angle. Had to send it off and they said they adjusted the extractor. Works fine now. I know it's a disappointment and a PITA that shouldn't be necessary but they'll take care of it.
 
98s1lightning said:
I will probably call Beretta tomorrow when I'm not so disappointed.

This may end with me getting my money back and giving up on pocket pistols.
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Don't give up on the Pico yet. If you're willing to, and capable of doing a bit of polishing then I think your efforts will pay off in this case. Take a look at my review of the Pico over on the Beretta forum and you'll see exactly what I did to get my Pico running like a Swiss watch.
https://berettaforum.net/vb/showthread.php?t=140307&page=2
 
Any tips on getting extractor lined up for pin to come out? I just spent TOO long not getting mine apart.... I did read the manual and understand how it works

I will be removing some material off the bottom of my extractor and contouring it slightly to give it lead for the rim. I studied other extractors I have and they are shaped the way I thought they should be...this one is not.
 
I decided I will call and talk with Beretta about 2 major issues. Failure to feed, on any ammunition. Jamming because of extractor not being shaped correctly. On the extractor, it needs a radius lead for the rim and the bottom opening should be slightly wider so the rim can feed into it easier.

Well see what they say tomorow when I call.

If they don't fix it I will. I like everything else about it beside it not shooting.....
 
98s1lightning said:
I decided I will call and talk with Beretta about 2 major issues. Failure to feed, on any ammunition. Jamming because of extractor not being shaped correctly. On the extractor, it needs a radius lead for the rim and the bottom opening should be slightly wider so the rim can feed into it easier.

Well see what they say tomorow when I call.

If they don't fix it I will. I like everything else about it beside it not shooting.....
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The bottom edge of the extractor is very sharp and was causing problems with mine when using Perfecta ammo. Perfecta has a thicker rim and wasn't surprising, but other ammo seemed to have a hitch when chambering as well. After I put a radius and polished that edge all ammo feeds smooth. The extractor is easy to remove. The instructions are in the manual on pg 45.
http://www.beretta.com/assets/12/29/PICO_Manual_06.27.14.pdf
 
Yea, I was in my manual and still couldn't get mine out. I'm a mechanic for a living hahaha. Well see what Beretta says tomorow.
 
Some of the post gave me some flashbacks of what might be wrong. I have changed out the grips a number of times. Also just taken out the sub chassis to just clean etc. One thing I do recall is the misalignment of the trigger bar And you have to be careful to not bend them. I would not be surprised if this might not be the issue. In fact, I bought a few spares in case I ever did. I also found out that it is common for this to happen if you just do not seat it just right.

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Why would there be issues with the lower if I've never touched it.....I don't know.

This problem cause major feed problems???

My trigger feels good...
 
when I misaligned it, the gun would fire, but would not cycle all rounds. This may not be your issue. But very simple to check out. That said, I called Beretta and they were very quick in getting it and sending it back. I think it was three or four days. And Beretta will have UPS or FED EX pickup at your house and deliver to your house. Probably best to send it in.
 
My 2 cent Beretta Pico Review, to offer a different opinion.


Pros:


I am very pleased with the overall build quality.

Mine has been reliable.

Very easy to conceal.


While some may criticize the flush fit mag release, I am completely satisfied with it. For my use, I enjoy the fact that it is purpose built for concealment and think that is a desirable trade off.


Also the paddle release, I wouldn’t prefer that in a full size gun, but for a tiny little gun like this it works really well! I don’t actually manipulate a standard button release on tiny guns any faster. It’s always going to be a 2 handed scenario for me. The plus is that this style on a tiny little gun lends itself to gross motor skills under stress and also wards against accidently magazine drops that can happen with some pocket pistols.


I don’t mind the bore axis. Actually that tall slide is easy to grip now that they improved the traction.


In the realm of double action pistols with second strike capability, the trigger is decent. I’m satisfied with that.


Cons:


The flush fit magazine is a 1 finger affair, and for me it is not controllable at all. The extended baseplate for me points low and feels unnatural. There are no other aftermarket magazines that I can find. I’d love an +1 or +2 extended magazine. I couldn’t find any other baseplates either.


I think overall beretta does not take advantage of the modular design of the gun. The lasers are and stuff are fine, but there should be more grip frames available for different styles of carry. I don’t think that would be hard or expensive to do. For instance I would appreciate some grips that allow for a better purchase of the gun, maybe those that want a two finger or three finger grip like the ct380. That would really add a lot of value to me for having a modular gun, to be able to change its size seasonally.


They are never going to make a .32acp version. They talked the talk at release but never mentioned it again.


I find dry fire to be a valuable part of practice. I know to use snapcaps but I see no reason why they couldn’t design or upgrade the gun with a more durable firing pin like every other modern gun in existence. I respect durability and this reminds me of the problem they have with another of their pocket pistols, the tomcat, which has a weak point in the frame that can crack (some dont care but its a dealbreaker for me). If you look into the problem with the tomcat, you will see there is no reason they could not just make that weak point in the frame a little tougher, and after all these years they don’t care and that disturbs me because there’s a lot I liked about that gun.
 
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Kaybee said:
My 2 cent Beretta Pico Review, to offer a different opinion.


Pros:


I am very pleased with the overall build quality.

Mine has been reliable.

Very easy to conceal.


While some may criticize the flush fit mag release, I am completely satisfied with it. For my use, I enjoy the fact that it is purpose built for concealment and think that is a desirable trade off.


Also the paddle release, I wouldn’t prefer that in a full size gun, but for a tiny little gun like this it works really well! I don’t actually manipulate a standard button release on tiny guns any faster. It’s always going to be a 2 handed scenario for me. The plus is that this style on a tiny little gun lends itself to gross motor skills under stress and also wards against accidently magazine drops that can happen with some pocket pistols.


I don’t mind the bore axis. Actually that tall slide is easy to grip now that they improved the traction.


In the realm of double action pistols with second strike capability, the trigger is decent. I’m satisfied with that.


Cons:


The flush fit magazine is a 1 finger affair, and for me it is not controllable at all. The extended baseplate for me points low and feels unnatural. There are no other aftermarket magazines that I can find. I’d love an +1 or +2 extended magazine. I couldn’t find any other baseplates either.


I think overall beretta does not take advantage of the modular design of the gun. The lasers are and stuff are fine, but there should be more grip frames available for different styles of carry. I don’t think that would be hard or expensive to do. For instance I would appreciate some grips that allow for a better purchase of the gun, maybe those that want a two finger or three finger grip like the ct380. That would really add a lot of value to me for having a modular gun, to be able to change its size seasonally.


They are never going to make a .32acp version. They talked the talk at release but never mentioned it again.


I find dry fire to be a valuable part of practice. I know to use snapcaps but I see no reason why they couldn’t design or upgrade the gun with a more durable firing pin like every other modern gun in existence. I respect durability and this reminds me of the problem they have with another of their pocket pistols, the tomcat, which has a weak point in the frame that can crack (some dont care but its a dealbreaker for me). If you look into the problem with the tomcat, you will see there is no reason they could not just make that weak point in the frame a little tougher, and after all these years they don’t care and that disturbs me because there’s a lot I liked about that gun.
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As far as the flush fit magazine. I started off shooting without one, but later found out that I can control the gun better with the extended grip.But more importantly, I found out that It makes it great for quick drawing of the gun in any position. The fingers naturally pull the gun up and quick.

Yes, it would seem that Beretta would do better with the great design of being modular. I like the ability to change grips, make the gun very easy to work on or minor repairs or replacement, through cleaning and lubrication etc. I am totally happy with the size of the grip, but I would see Beretta befitting for folks that like a larger grip.I personally do not believe in lasers, but appreciate folks that desire them.

I personally am not interested in a 32.cal version. Why? Because the gun already shoots so very mild. I just recenlty bought a Keltec P32. I was so impressed with the weight of only 6.6 oz. NO, it is not the quality of the Beretta, but it is a very capable little gun, crude in compariso, but a tool that works. Especially with the New Underwood Defender. Now if Beretta decides to make a 32.cal that weighs the same as the Keltec, I am a buyer.

I have absoultely no Problem with the fact that I have to use snapcaps. I do this with ALL my guns, no matter what the manuals have to say. Cheap insurance. And one thing for certain, there has never been a issue with broken striker pins. They are plenty sturdy as I have thousands of rounds through two gun and no issues. In fact, when I read about a few problems on the internet with them breaking, I ordered spares just in case and have yet to use them.
I certainly would not compare to the Tom cat with the crack frame issues. The cracked frames is the gun and not a part and is unacceptable, especially considering how much money they cost.

Love the Pico trigger. One thing about them is the fact that they will wear in to be very nice and smooth. Just a very natural smooth pull at this stage.

One thing about the Pico, mine have proven themselves to be some of the most reliable guns I have. And I love shooting them. I know I will end up with a third soon, just because.

That said, I have alway's believed that there is not a perfect fit for every shooter. And I would not recommend one to a newbie or someone that does not want to put the effort and time into training. My Kahr is a very nice well built gun, and I have heard many nice reports from the Rem380 from folks that I trust that are into pocket guns.
 
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