Cook County Residents! 11+Rnd Magazines = "Assault Weapon", Turn them In!

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I can't believe there has been so little public attention paid to this "tweak" of the Cook County Assault weapon bill. Watching what little news coverage of this bill presented gave the impression that only the definitions were changed to prevent gun makers from skirting the law.

http://www.cookctyclerk.com/html/111406orddoc.htm

Look at the second to last item, Ordinance 06-O-50

This ordinance adds to the restrictions put forth in the bans previously passed in Cook County and equates magazines that hold more than 10 rnds to assault weapons in terms of the penalties for possession/transfer/sale/etc.

So not only are your STI race gun and Glock 17C/19C/22C/21C assault weapons, each magazine, which was previously legal to own, is now an assault weapon on its own. Yes, each magazine is subject to all the same penalties as the pistols!

Remington 1187 w/ 7 rnd magazine tube? Assault Weapon.
Mini-14? Even with its non-threatening woodstock and 5rnd Bill Ruger approved magazine. Assault Weapon

Have a stock 11/87 and a magazine extension for an 870. That is a kit or combination of parts that would allow for the construction of an assault weapon. Possession of both parts by the same person = Assault weapon. Constructive Possession, just like our Federal JBTs like to use. What if you own the 11/87 and have an 870 with extension? Kit or not? You'll have to find out in court.


M1 Carbines were given a last minute repreieve. Just be sure to get rid of all your 15rnd mags and recoil check. And that handguard is kinda iffy. Probably should dump it too :banghead:

The gracious masters of the county of Cook have alloted us 90 days to turn them in for destruction, or face fine and imprisonment. They failed to mention that they have taken a whole slew of items that were previously legal to own and made them contraband, while burying the legislation from public view and downplaying the significance of the legislation to the news media.

Where are the messages from the CC Board on every news station (in both Spanish and English)? Where are the flyers for each household in Cook county? Cook County made a portion of its population criminals overnight (well, those that were not already) and didn't feel it was worth informing the electorate.

Any lawyers out there want to peruse this ordinance and chime in. Under Applicability in the bills General Provisions it lists the following:
(a) This article shall control the licensing of all firearms dealers within Cook County except in home rule municipalities which have a separate municipal ordinance specifically regulating the licensing of firearms dealers.

Would the following article therefore not apply to those who are not licensed dealers? Further down they prohibit "any person" from selling/displaying/possessing assault weapons. Can we presume it applies only to those "any people" who are dealers, as stated in the applicability portion of the ordinance? As much as I'd like the previous statements to be true, I'd hate to be so naive as to think that words in such documents actually represent the common use by the rest of the world.
 
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Remember, vote Democratic, they're the working man's friends! They stand for freedom! They don't want to take your guns away, that's a myth!

The above is what I hear on a daily basis at work. The truth is in the original post.
 
The above is what I hear on a daily basis at work. The truth is in the original post.

Oh I heard plenty of it right here just a few weeks ago.

Good luck Ill. You have a rough road ahead it appears.
 
Take a good look at Illinois and Chicagoland in general THR members.

This is the home of Sen. Dick Durbin(D), Sen. Barack Obama(D).

Current leading Democrat in the Senate and a current media darling being groomed for the Presidency.

Our laws in Illinois are what they would like to bring to all of the rest of the country.
 
Just more to charge you with if you get caught.

Pulled over for speeding and they see your range bag, ask to look inside, high cap mags, pop, felony.
 
>>>How are they going to enforce this?<<<

With "men" of little backbone and little knowledge or care of history.
 
Because if the cops don't enforce it Blago will sell their jobs to the highest bidder and Daley will bulldoze their homes with some eminent domain crap.

God Bless DuPage County. Write your own book of exodus, folks.
 
The gracious masters of the county of Cook have alloted us 90 days to turn them in for destruction, or face fine and imprisonment. They failed to mention that they have taken a whole slew of items that were previously legal to own and made them contraband, while burying the legislation from public view and downplaying the significance of the legislation to the news media.
Our freedoms and rights were won and preserved with sacrifice and ideals spoken loud and true, emphasized by the roar of arms. Yet they vanish with little more than a whimper. Don't forget that even Hitler existed and came to power in a democracy.
 
Chicago might as well be branded a warzone already - for a "first-rate" city, "we" sure do have a lot of homicides. Smaller cities may have higher murder rates because they can get swallowed up by the bad areas, but in terms of total number of people making their way through the coroner's office a little early, it's not unheard of for Chicago to give LA a run for their money on the annual body count, and they're three times our size and a more notorious for gang violence (at least in the past ten years).

Nothing is going to turn them around except ousting the unoustable incumbents. Cook's set in its ways - people have strange senses of pride I don't understand. I can't tell you how many Cook Republicans I know that really like the Daleys - confounds me. I'm all for making Cook County its own state, at the risk of screwing up the electoral college. Not like IL's gone red lately anyway, though.
 
Man. What country is IL becoming?

Here, I'd just gone out and bought a Saiga .223, for which the only check was the NICS, for which the statement of type given on the phone was only "long gun". Most things I own are patently illegal on that list, from other rifles to the hicap mags in pistols.

IL is not the United States, that's for sure.
 
Which City Will Be The First To Fall?

Chicago, New York City, Boston, San Diego, DC or LA? Does it really matter? If they are willing to set themselves up to be the cannon fodder, that'll give the rest of us time to run home and grab the big guns and keep the foreign invaders corralled in those disarmed cities. Heart-felt thanks to the residents of those cities for offering themselves up as an easy target to give the rest of us those extra few minuets to grab a quick latte before we head for the front lines. It's a noble thing you do.

Woody

The underlying problem concerning the law that "allows" or "requires" us to get a permit is law that makes carrying a gun "unlawful" to begin with. It starts there, then laws are passed that create exceptions to the original law, to allow carry under certain conditions after you jump through a few hoops and pay a fee. It is that original law that is unconstitutional. Eliminate that original law, then there is no opportunity to require permits. B.E.Wood
 
On the flip side of the coin, if anyone knows any Cook County residents that need to sell something quickly, do tell them to drop me a line. :neener:

I'm serious though.
 
Illinois might soon overtake California as being the most anti-gun state. I mean: Illinois state law requires Illinois residents to obtain a Firearm Owner Identification card (called the FOID card) to purchase or possess firearms. The FOID card system is under the purview of the Illinois State Police.

This is more than even CA requires (although handgun purchase requirements essential document all handgun owners the same way in CA) for non 'assault'(agressive and evil) firearms. If Illinois adopts 'assault weapon' type legislation I dare say it would be even more restrictive than CA. MA is only slightly better and requires a purchase permit as well.

The thing many people fail to realize here is that these locations are also home to some of the nations most prestigious Universities. This means people from these locations are considered wiser and more intelligent with a louder voice than those from other locations. Of course this means thier views will be anti gun based on the curriculum approved in these states. People traveling to these locations to be educated will then travel back home to spread thier anti-gun, socialist agenda, and have the best credentials to back thier perspective. People will listen and the anti-gun mentality will spread and be enforced (by people with guns ironicly.)
 
Entrapment!

:cuss:

Yeah, glad they're letting everyone know about this. I recently chose not to purchase a Mini-14 for this very reason. Went with something fun but less "scary." Good choice, I guess, but this is insane.

I'd previously posted or PMed someone regarding gun laws around here and had made note that the gun registration forms had gotten a whole lot more detailed in the past year, asking for more specifics. My guess was that it was entrapment so that they could find out how many people had the features they were planning to ban then round them up easily when the ban went into effect. I hate it when I'm right, sometimes!
 
Zoogster: It is interesting that you mention the universities. University of Chicago was ranked the #1 university in the country. But an interesting sidenote is that John Lott is a part of that university.

I live in Cook county and want to leave ASAP. This is sickening. I am already keeping my guns at a friends in Will County simply because I dont want to have to deal with this crap. I am so tired of feeling like I do not live in America.
 
Pulled over for speeding and they see your range bag, ask to look inside, high cap mags, pop, felony.

Violation of a county ordinance is neither a felony nor a misdemeanor. $500 to $1000 fine, minus whatever is confiscated (likely NOT fair market value), and/or up to six months in prison, period, total, if you have one 11-round mag in a range bag or a gunsafe full of ARs and AKs.

IL State Constitution says "subject to the police power, RKBA shall not be infringed." Home-rule county government is legislative AND executive, or operates as such, which violates Separation of Powers. The Cook County Board is clearly NOT the "police power" in the Constitution. The "police power," which should be interpreted as ISP, is executive...which means they cannot WRITE law; certainly not for selective parts of the state. Furthermore, Cook County is clearly interfering with Interstate Commerce (under the auspices of regulating a public health hazard) which is to be regulated by Congress only. The whole thing should be thrown out as un(State)constitutional. Of course, one would have to keep appealing until the case is heard OUTSIDE of Illinois, or at least outside Machine territory.

The same argument can also be used to fight the eventual state AWB (you know it's coming, Richie & Rod can tasteit now), in that the Legislature is not the "police power" specifically named in IL-Con, nor can ISP regulate public health. Why isn't that ever written in the Op-Ed?

BTW, it passed 15-0, with one Dem voting "present." 5 Republicans heartily approved this ordinance. The usual Dem-Repub blather does not apply here.
 
Illinois Republicans from the Northern half of the state are no friend to the gunowners. That is a simple fact of life here in Northern Illinois.

Down South the Democrats and Republicans are USUALLY friends of the 2nd Amendment.

I have a lot of low road things to say right now about the people that voted this bill in. Its just not right anymore.

Perhaps we could start by forcing Chicago and Cook county to secede from the United States... after all they act like they want to.
 
The people of Chicago got what they wanted.
+100,000,000

Most of my family still lives in Apartheid Chicago. They LIKE the corruption. They've got the "trains run on time mentality" to the nth degree.

I go there once a year and shower repeatedly after I return.
 
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