Cop killed with Rhino ammo during DUI arrest

[TallPine]

he grows taller.

So the reporter's name was Richard Head ...?

 

[Cosmoline]

This is not positive, as it tends to foster the "us versus them" attitude that can lead to all kinds of bad things."

Too true. The last few times an officer in this part of Alaska was killed, the police made a point of shutting down the center of Anchorage on Friday afternoon. It was as if they were saying "you don't matter--look, we can shut down your entire city at the worst possible time and you have to sit by and watch."

 

[Owen]

it was over a year ago folks.

 

[Pebcac]

Why is it important that it was a cop who was murdered, as opposed to any other member of humanity?

Why is it that some people on this board have to ask this kind of thing every time they think a law enforcement officer is being placed on a pedestal? A man died doing his job, a job that requires him to wear a bullet-resistant vest just to go to work. What do you wear to work every day?

Some folks here need to lose the tinfoil hats - not every LEO in this country is a jack-booted thug. The "us vs. them" thing is because, as illustrated in this case, you never know who's going to try to kill you. The only certainties in the mind of a police officer on duty are the folks in the same uniform as he/she is. Frankly, it's the same mentality as soldiers in the field, and it's normal human behavior.

The real issue here is that, again, a member of the media is inflating a story with false information, something that I was taught was sensationalism, commonly referred to as yellow journalism. For once, how about let's stick to the high road and leave the anti-law enforcement innuendo out. There's plenty of complaining to be done on the media's handling of the story.

[/rant]

 

[Henry Bowman]

Pebcac - You ate 100% right on target.

Cosmo - when an LEO or firefighter dies in the line of duty, frankly, I like to see the city traffic disrupted briefly. It provides a solemn reminder in the form a a momentary inconvenience - kind of like a 4th of July parage down Main Street.

 

[CR_OPSO]

Well said, cordex.
CR

 

[HBK]

That sucks, especially the "survived by a wife and five children." I wish the officer had just fired his weapon first. If the rifle was being pointed at him, he could have maybe just fired without any voice commands. I hope they execute the bastard that killed him.

 

[TheeBadOne]

TallPine-

I can't believe anyone would kill over a DUI arrest.

It is as sad a fact as it is true, human life is of little value to some.

HBK-

I wish the officer had just fired his weapon first. If the rifle was being pointed at him, he could have maybe just fired without any voice commands.

Agreed, but is it any wonder he didn't? Take in to account all the flaming/bashing/2nd guessing that goes on to a LEO when ever he uses any force, much less deadly force. I'm sure he had "Liability" dancing through his head, perhaps media headlines too, or money hungry lawyers running to the family of the dead or injured criminal. I suspect many Officers are injured/killed due to holding back. I agree it's a sad thing he left behind 5 children. How do you tell them someone (a complete stranger) killed their Dad, just because of his job, just because he was a cop?

 

[pale horse]

I am not trying to make light of the situation. Technically any ammo that kills cops is "cop killers."

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

You're right. He has to wear a Bullet resistant vest to go to work, and he carries a gun. That's his job. When a machinist gets killed on the job, do they name overpasses after him? Police perform a necessary function, but they're not some kind of special segment of humanity whom everyone should automatically respect more than the other people who have to do their jobs.

 

[George Hill]

This is both a sad story and a tall tale at the same time.
Sympathy for the Family.
Lothing for the criminals.
And for this reporter? Kick his butt? How can I? This guy is a victim. Obviously the product of public education... he is a Victim. I can't blame him for his ignorance. He probably even got straight A's in school.
Stupidity is everywhere. Having it show up in a newspaper is expected.

I am still not aware of any Police Officer killed by a bullet fired from a handgun that penetrated the balistic panels of his vest. Not even wounded by such. Rifles on the other hand... well, let's just say that Body Armor that can withstand multiple .308 hits to the back while a parter assembles a take-down rifle... We shall have to leave that stuff to the Mall Ninja's and the SWAT Team guys. It's too hot and heavy for patrol work.

 

[HBK]

You are right, BadOne. I just value the lives of LEOs that risk their life while doing their job as I'm sure everyone else does. The man had to be worth 100 of the scum that killed him.

 

[cool45auto]

That's terrible. I feel really bad for his family.

 

[Pebcac]

Andrew, by that logic, no one should bother tying yellow ribbons to trees, either. I, for one, will respect anyone who has the desire to risk his or her life day in and day out for the safety of others. I work in a technical field, safe behind a desk, and I don't expect to ever have any overpasses named after me, but I don't put myself in a potential line of fire every day, either. YMMV.

 

[seeker_two]

I'm praying for that brave officer's family & comrades...

I'm praying that the maggots that killed him meet an end at least as lethal & twice as painful...

And I'm praying that a certain reporter would try using a new ingredient in his writing---THE TRUTH!!!


They can repeal the 2nd Amendment just as soon as they repeal the FIRST!!!

 

[Standing Wolf]

If not for lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, and plain old-fashioned fraud, leftists would have nothing to say.

 

[JShirley]

I think everyone on this board wants freedom. Virtually all of us also favor fewer restrictions on firearms (am I being redundant?).

I find it hard to believe that anyone here would be upset at a police officer firing at an individual who was, without provocation, pointing a deadly weapon at him.

John

Rhino ammo? What is that?

 

[yesterdaysyouth]

can standard police-issue body armor stop any type of high powered rifle round??? say anything more than a 220swift???

your average deer rifle chambered in .243 is now a rhino killer....

ggggrrrrrr.....

 

[Blueduck]

Why is it important that it was a cop who was murdered, as opposed to any other member of humanity?

I know this is getting a bit off topic and has otherwise been addresed but, I think one point has been overlooked.

We may not agree on all laws (especially as gun owners) but if you really look at it I bet 99% of us do agree with 90% of the laws (anybody here FOR outright murder or child molestation???). Ugly as our political system sometimes appears WE as group of Americans do make the laws through the relativly free election of our officials.

When a Policeman is killed in the line of duty it was OUR policeman who died. WE put him on the street, to enforce OUR laws, to hopefully make OUR lives better. That is (or should be) the reason police getting killed garners more publicity than the average Joe. Not that any crime victims family feels less pain from the loss.

PS Please don't take the capitals as "shouting" simply emphasizing the "Personal" aspect that helps dictate the how much coverage a persons death gets.

 

[Ala Dan]

I would like to add my deepest feelings of sympathy
and condolence to the family of Deputy Jones. As all
LEO's know, its a tough world out there; and not all
people are playing with a full deck of cards! I hope
they prosecute those b------s to the fullest extent of
the law; and burn their butts at the stake!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

 

[TheeBadOne]

Killed by a drunk driver

Lieutenant George Brooks
New Tazewell Police Department, TN
End of Watch: Wednesday, February 19, 2003

Age: 61
Tour of Duty: 29 yr

Lieutenant Brooks was struck and killed by a vehicle while conducting an investigation at the scene of a minor traffic accident on Highway 33 at 2215 hours. The driver of the vehicle that struck Lieutenant Brooks, was driving on a revoked driver's license for a prior DUI. The driver was arrested and charged with vehicular homicide.

 

[c_yeager]

I am not trying to make light of the situation. Technically any ammo that kills cops is "cop killers."

Actually i think it would be the fellow that pulled the trigger who should be classified as a "cop killer". The bullet would simply be the intrument that he used.

And as far as making a "big deal" out of the death of a firefighter or police officer i think it makes perfect sense. All these cop bashers love talking about how these guys "work for us" and how "we pay their salary". Well, thats exactly what makes it a big deal. These guys punch a clock everyday to provide us ALL with a service. And willingly put themselves in danger to do so. For that i think the least we can do is have a moment of silence or some kind of extra recognition at the news of their deaths.

 

[rebbryan]

bullet resistant vest.

got one right, no "proof", must've had help

Deputy Jones was able to return fire, sticking the suspect once.

this reporter really is dumb, he "stuck" the suspect?

 

[bigshark14]

In many jurisdictions, (probably not in rural areas) you need two cops to run DWI tests and make a DWI arrest, the cop running the tests is just at a very vulnerable position (looking into suspect's eyes, 18 inches from suspect's face, holding a finger in the air, focusing on suspect's pupils...)

Sorry to hear about the dead officer, that is just a shame, hopefully the local community can get some $$$$ together to send some of those kids to college on a scholarship or something of that nature

 

[hammer4nc]

One wonders what is the point of posting tidbits from various "fallen heroes" websites? Is there something especially significant about the particular cases, that merit discussion? Difficult to tell when these are posted with no added comment. Is the objective to merely elicit an emotional response? If enough of these are posted, will that somehow cancel out the threads having to do with police abuse? Hmmm...

To add a little objectivity, perhaps the following chart will put things in perspective?

OccupationRelative Risk*
Leading Fatal Event

Average All Jobs 1.0 Homicide and Accidents
Fishers 21.3 Drowning
Timber Cutters 20.6 Struck by Object
Airplane Pilots 19.9 Airplane Crashes
Structural Metal Workers 13.1 Falls
Taxi Cab Drivers 9.5 Homicide
Construction Workers 8.1 Vehicular, Falls
Roofers 5.9 Falls
Electric Power Installers/Repairrs 5.7 Electrocution
Truck Driver 5.3 Highway Crashes
Farm Occupations 5.1 Vehicular
Police, Detectives, Supervisors 3.4 Homicide, Highway Crashes
Nonconstruction Laborers 3.2 Vehicular
Electricians 3.2 Electrocution
Welders and Cutters 2.4 Falls, fires
Guards 2.3 Homicide
Groundkeepers and Gardeners 1.9 Vehicular
Carpenters 1.6 Falls
Auto Mechanics 1.1 Highway Crashes, Homicide
Supervisors, Proprietors, Sales 1.0 Homicide
Cashiers 0.9 Homicide

SOURCE: Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics - Compensation and Working Conditions Online

* Relative Risk Rate is the fatality rate for a given group divided by the fatality rate for all workers. A rate of 2.0 means the worker is twice as likely as the average worker to die on the job.

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