Cop Stabbed During Dunkin' Donuts Heist

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LEO's are allowed to carry while off duty in NY, however I know several who choose not too. Perpetrator was arrested in Virginia I believe today after trying to escape out the back window of his brothers apartment. The perp in question was actually using his mothers car and the NY Daily News reported that he had robbed this Dunkin Dounuts before, and robbed it this time to try to get money to fill the gas tank of the car so he could go to his sentencing for the previous robbery.

As far as what the cop doing not being necessary, well from the security tape it looks like the guy had tried to stab the clerk in the eye allready. Granted if the guy who intervened was a cop or not, I'd hope someone would help me out and not stand behind with hands in pockets saying it's not my job if someone pulled a knife on me at work.

I give those NYPD guys all the credit that they deserve and then some, pay for rookies has recently been lowered to $25,000, quite a low amount for asking a guy to strap on a gun, a vest and go out there and stop violent criminals.

I thank all the good cops I can when I can do it safely. Actually brought a cup of coffee to one cop who was just coming off traffic duty due to the latest flooding on my local parkway, would have brought him a doughnut but told him that would have probably been to cliche lol.
 
Hats off to the officer.

had he shot this POS, I'm sure SHARPTON would have been marching, complaining that a "good son" had been shot and killed when ALL he had was a knife.
 
Dude, you don't know jack s#it about me, and your comment is taken as it was intended -- as a personal ad hominem attack.

Nothing about my posts in this thread indicates, or should be taken to indicate, that I myself am not capable of or willing to commit heroic acts. Quite the opposite is true. I once was summoned to kayak out into rough surf to rescue a failing swimmer when no other rescue was available. I remain willing to help others even at risk to myself.

The difference, I suspect, between me and this cop would be that I would not be the kind of dolt cop who opts to not carry a firearm in his off-duty moments.

Obviously, cop thinks of himself as a cop 24/7. Why, then, would he not carry a weapon 24/7 as well? Does he randomly show up for his work shifts and say, "Meh. Don't figure I'll be needing the gun today"?

Meanwhile, keep your personal attacks to yourself.

-Jeffrey
 
LEO's are allowed to carry while off duty in NY, however I know several who choose not to.
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Any cop, especially a NYC cop, who decides to not carry a firearm while off duty is not a cop through-and-through. I believe it is to the point of shirking his responsibility.

That just strikes me as a very injudicious decision.


-Jeffrey
 
Cops get worn out about the doughnut thing, but honestly .... who dosen't like doughnuts?

They're so good once they hit your lips (sorry old school reference)


If I was a cop my local doughnut shop would be extra secure too.
 
That is why it is better to be armed :D Anyhow how could someone not be bad if they had a last name of Killings. Mmmmmmmmm, doghnuts!
 
The cop/donut thing has been going on forever.

However, what people fail to realize is that the donut shops usually make the best coffee. This is what cops are addicted to, coffee :D
 
Any cop, especially a NYC cop, who decides to not carry a firearm while off duty is not a cop through-and-through. I believe it is to the point of shirking his responsibility.
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I usually try and stay off this part of THR because of all the cop-bashing. This thread catches my eye, so I think, hey, nobody can bad mouth this cop.

I was wrong.

"peaceful" jeffery, you complain about personal attacks on yourself, yet call this brave cop a "dolt", for not having a gun with him. Maybe he normally carries, maybe he was going jogging, who knows? Maybe he just made a mistake. But it's you that doesn't know "jack s#it" about this cop, or what happened. Despite your weak hero kayak story, I doubt you have the stones this kid has.

I think you're the dolt. I would call you an a**hole, but it's The High Road, and I'm not supposed to.
 
Uncle "Pete" , as a rookie, apprehended 2 shoplifting suspects off duty and unarmed. He took them both outside to wait for the on duty guys and somehow one of them managed to cave his skull in with a piece of debris picked up off of the ground. He was lucky to survive, it almost killed him. Needless to say, he was never off duty and unarmed again. I suspect the same will hold true for Officer Schiavelli after this incident. Young cops WILL make this mistake but most usually learn from it. Providing they survive.

Other than that +1 for the officer's bravery and sense of duty! I'm glad he's ok.
 
While it may have been a mistake to be unarmed in his position, it's nice to see that someone was willing to take the risk and do the right, brave thing in the situation. I can only hope that a few people out there that aren't even LEO's would be willing to do the same to try and save a fellow human being's life. Personally I think the society as a whole could use a few more sets of big brass ones like this guy.
 
Found the video myself.
Go to this story, click on "Launch Video", and then click on the little window with the screen capture from the security camera on it.

I'll say this: the incident took place FAST!

The knife wielder was still a serious threat to the clerk. His first swipe with the knife I really believe was an attempt to cut her. :mad:

The officer's situational awareness was not particularly good to begin with. (hands in pockets, took a second to realize what was going on.)

The officer never managed to get a bearhug on the guy-- he just dragged him off the counter and got swiped across the abdomen for his trouble. (ow!) At no point did he ever have control of Shron Killings' hands. Killings was QUICK with that knife, too.

For all his being human, the officer was a hero, without any doubt.
 
I don't expect a cop to carry 24/7, as I don't expect him to be a cop 24/7. Personally, I don't see a hero cop in this store, I see a hero citizen.

Being a cop is just a job. Just like any other job you're entitiled to your time off.

Regardless of whether you are a cop or not, if you have the ability to legally carry, you should seriously consider it.
 
Taking action in these kind of situations is not human nature, and it is not the norm. Despite what most armchair hero's think they'll do, mostly people freeze.

At the McDonalds massacre in San Diego, the people in the restaurant mainly sat still while Huberty walked around methodically shooting people.

I have a feeling if this kid were there, even unarmed, he would have taken his best shot at stopping him.

He's a hero in my book.
 
An off-duty NYC police officer who was also in line at the donut shop is seen in the video grabbing the suspect
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That's what I saw in the video. He actually grabs the robber from behind.

Why didn't he coldcock the guy in the head? The knifer didn't even know he was back there. It is good that the officer did something but he didn't have to get cut IMO.
 
Daily Carry is the Way to Go

The young officer jumped right in and deserves our thanks and respect.

But, hey, I hope when he gets back to the station-house, and all the backslapping and thank-yous are all done, that his boss takes him quietly into the office and says "Dude, where the heck was your piece - and why wasn't it pulled out to SHOOT the bad guy?"
 
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