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Corbon Ammo - Should I be concerned

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I have invested in 2 of Corbons offerings, their .32 ACP 60 grain and .38 Special 110 grain +P.

Their .32 is excellent, and I have no concerns about shooting it, but then there is that .38.

I loaded up my 4 inch +P rated Rossi with standard pressure 130 grain FMJ, 125 grain SJHP +P, and the 110 grain Corbon +P.

130 grain - bang
125 grain - bang (same report, same recoil as the 130)
110 grain - BOOOOOMMMMM

It felt like a .357 going off, well almost. The water jug it was aimed at folded up in a way that not even my .40 JHPs can manage, it actually blew apart and collapsed vertically .

The recovered round had lost lead petals along the way and had shed its jacket. There is no doubt that this round would do a real number on an attacker, but......

It feels SO powerful, it's hard to believe that this round is within pressure limits, I've shot +P+ that felt much milder. I really want to try out their 135 grain .40 S&W load, but seeing as how the .40 pushes the envelope as it is, Corbon may well push it over the edge with their pressure brinksmanship.

So should I be concerned, has anyone had problems with Corbon.

Thanks

Newton
 
I've experimented with two different Cor-Bon loads, their 115 gr +P JHP 9mm in my Glock 19 and their 150 gr .40 JHP in my Sig P239.

The 9mm was pretty harsh to shoot, more recoil than I expected. The 150 gr .40 wasn't too bad, but according to the box, it's still cooking along at 1200 fps out of the muzzle. I think extended use of these loads would batter both shooter and weapon (YMMV); I've no doubt that these things will do nasty stuff to human targets, but I don't use them myself as a defensive load.
 
I assure you that your 38-110 ammunition is within +P pressures. They are very powerfull and if you are used to shooting the "generic" type ball ammo, then it's going to be a bit noisier and will definitely jump a bit more. This load is listed by Evan Marshall in his book on stopping power as the most effective load in 4" 38 spl guns. If your gun is rated for +P ammo, then it's completely safe to use this ammo.
 
I'd sure check with Rossi as to what they recommend. A good friend of mine had a stainless Rossi 2" and it did not last too long on a steady diet of +P, but that was nearly 10 years ago and I don't know if Rossi has improved their product since then. Hope so!
 
I`ve shot several different calibers of CorBon Ammo and feel very confident in it.
I carry it daily Its at the top of the list in my book !!
 
That BOOOOOMMMM! is what Corbon built their rep on, their 45 Colt loads are a hoot to shoot, just make sure you do it in a heavy frame gun that will handle them..
Gerald
 
I carry 125gr corbons in my .357 and they are brutal compared to everything else I've shot. But they are also the most accurate. I've heard alot of urban legends about corbons being over pressure, blowing up guns and the like. But I doubt if any company could stay in business in todays climate by blowing up people's guns. That being said, The Wife carries a Rossi M88 and she tried the corbon 110+p load. Gun did fine, but they were too much for her. And if you can't hit what your aiming at, the bullet just doesn't matter.
 
It is my opinion that the Corbon users only real concern is their susceptibility to marketing hype.
 
I can assure everybody that the 200 grain Corbon .357 is NOT marketing hype. Nor is their Penetrator .44 or ..454 loads. Come to think about it the 9x18 and .32acp Corbon loads get all you can get out of these anemic rounds. I DON"T go for the light weight bullet theory of 110 grain .38's or light ANYTHING under mach 3, but then I believe in physics and silly other real stuff. Exploding water jugs don't do it for me. Large, deep, permanent crush wounds seem to do the incapacitating in the real world and that takes a high sectional density bullet that holds together as it expands AND penetrates THRU vitals and bone.:banghead:
 
I believe in actual shooting reports, and these show the Corbon 110 grain +P to be THE most effective round in a 4 inch barrelled .38 Special.

The top performing round of any type for 2002 was a 155 grain .40 (not a heavy 180), the only 9mm load to make the top ten was a 115 grain (the 147s were nowhere to be seen).

Light and fast has deserves at least as many supporters as slow and heavy, I personally draw the line at super lightweight pre-fragmented ammo such as Glaser but YMMV.

Newton
 
I did'nt know LEO's used Corbon 110grain .38spl ammo,or 4" guns! So where exactly would these statistics be generated? Maybe in Phrance or Canada? I used to carry Win 110grain .38spl +power+ treasury loads until I shot a dog and got a fist sized 3" deep hole on shoulder shot! I have made same shot on same sized dog with 158grain LSWCHP and got both shoulders broken and heart ripped up and nice big bleeding holes. Why do you think people use 150 grain or better .30 caliber ammo to hunt deer? 110's are available and blow up real nice with their higher velocity,but they don't quickly break down major organ for quick incapacitation.
 
I carry cor-bons 125gr +P 38's in my smith 15-3 2" and don't find the recoil harsh at all.I think if it's way over pressure you would see the sighs of that,as in flattened and cratered primers,hard extraction and maybe split cases.
 
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I did'nt know LEO's used Corbon 110grain .38spl ammo,or 4" guns!

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Neither did I, noone mentioned LEO's.

Actual shooting statistics include civilian shootings.

Newton
 
WE HAVE HAD VERY FEW PROBLEMS WITH THE 38+P LOADS.

These 38SPL+P loads are loaded precisely to SAAMI 38+P specifications.
The old +P+ [ and remember +P+ are ANY loads above the +P limitations ] 38SPL loads we use to sell were set at pressure levels considerably above +P levels where by and large they performed very well indeed. I am the guy who hears all and very few problems were ever brought to my attention, other than the discontinuance of the 38-158SWC +P+ load. Haven't heard the end of that yet!
There are no modern 38SPL revolvers of which we are aware not capable of shooting the CORBON +P loads.
And yes, they are the real McCoy.
And yes again, many are sold to police departments.
 
Terry how safe would it be to shoot the corbon +p out of a 1974 Smith and Wesson Model 36 chiefs special that is in excellent condition?

I have heard the the .38spl. sold in those days was what we consider to be +p these days, an ammo brochure from S&W that came with the 36 seems to confirm this.

Thanks
 
I WOULD NOT FORSEE ANY PROBLEMS USING CORBON

38+P IN A S+W M36.
I have shot many thousands in a M60 without a problem. Both the M36 and M60 are the same gun and both are tough beyond their diminuative size would indicate.
Matter of fact I usta shoot 38/44 handloads out of a 3" M60-4 all the time. The only problem was it beat the livin' stew outta my gunhand, HOOOOOOOEEEE!!!
 
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