Couldnt order 30 rd mag from Midway USA

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What the heck is a FOID card?

OH! I figured it out!
Firearms Owner Identification card

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We don't have them here in the free state of Kansas and I had not heard of them before.

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AB,

It's not just the laws of the 50 states but you also have County laws (Like the Cook County, Illinois AWB), and city and village laws (Like Morton Grove, Illinois' Handgun ban)

You don't say what state your in, but I'd bet if you look in your state's code, you might find something that says something like "Knives with a blade over x inches are illegal to possess or carry".
 
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I hate to be a pain, but do we start slamming Barrett for not selling 50 caliber rifles/parts to California? No, everyone applauded that.

I don't think it is fair to slam a company because they don't know all the details of stupid laws in your state. Use that energy to change the law.
 
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We don't have them here in the free state of Kansas and I had not heard of them before.
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I was under the impression that Kansas had a waiting period. At least it did when I lived there in the early 90's.
 
Midway is covering their butts from potential lawsuits that Illinois will bring about when some politcian decides its time to do so.

The FOID card is just another way for the state of Illinois to discourage gunownership.

I fixed that problem.

I moved. My gun rights were reason enough.
 
I guess it's all a question of whether Midway, a large mail order outfit wishes to satisfy it's customers as opposed to satisfying the possible whims that might, at some point in the future, seize some political types.

As to the problems of complying with both federal and state laws and regulations, perhaps town, county and villages too, did you ever here the phrase "the cost of doing business"? I suppose that Midway could opt for selling pots and pans instead of gun related items, one day they might, who knows.

Meantime, the above put question remains. Does a business wish to satisfy it's customers, the people who pay for it's lunch or does this business prefer to cater to the whims of two-bit politicians and such wet dreams as this type might come to have?
 
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did you ever here the phrase "the cost of doing business"?
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Yes, and avoiding criminal as well as civil lawsuits is one way of keeping costs down.

And it's not "catering to the whims of two-bit politicans", (Even though I will concede that just about all the politicans in this state don't even rise to the level of "two-bit", but I digress.") when the law is very clear on having to provide your FOID card anytime you wish to purchase ammunition:

(430 ILCS 65/3) (from Ch. 38, par. 83‑3)
Sec. 3. (a) Except as provided in Section 3a, no person may knowingly transfer, or cause to be transferred, any firearm, firearm ammunition, stun gun, or taser to any person within this State unless the transferee with whom he deals displays a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card which has previously been issued in his name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this Act. In addition, all firearm, stun gun, and taser transfers by federally licensed firearm dealers are subject to Section 3.1.
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The law then goes on to clarify:

(b‑5) Any resident may purchase ammunition from a person outside of Illinois. Any resident purchasing ammunition outside the State of Illinois must provide the seller with a copy of his or her valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card and either his or her Illinois driver's license or Illinois State Identification Card prior to the shipment of the ammunition. The ammunition may be shipped only to an address on either of those 2 documents.
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So Midway is doing what it can to avoid being put out of business by following the law and in doing so keeping it's costs as low as possible by not having to hire lawyers to defend themselves from Anti-2A elected officals (Like, I don't know......Mayor Bloomberg and his illegal gang of straw-purchasers.)

Does a business wish to satisfy it's customers, the people who pay for it's lunch or does this business prefer to cater to the whims of two-bit politicians and such wet dreams as this type might come to have?
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Yep, most companies just ignore those pesky rules and regulations imposed by Federal, State and Local governments, because they wish to satisfy their customers. Who cares about OHSA/Fire inspections, Waste Disposal laws, fines, penalties, cease and desist orders and criminal lawsuits ??? We're satisfying our customers !!!.

You didn't once work for Enron did you ???
 
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In my view, defending yoursrelf could be one of the "costs of doing business". I suppose that some will disagree, and they could be right. My view of the thing is as was above stated.

As for your question, "You didn't once work for Enron did you ???"? The answer is NO, I never had the dubiious pleasure, however what might my past employment have to do with current dscussions?

Re your observation, "Yes, and avoiding criminal as well as civil lawsuits is one way of keeping costs down.", some battles should be fought. By the way, in cases of the clearly stated requirements of written law, compliance therewith is the way to proceed, until such time as the written statutes might be changed.

Re the "no account state politicans mentioned, one wonders as to how it is that they obtain office, or is it that:

1. pro gun people represent a tiny minority of the electorate
2. pro gun people in IL. skip voting, or fail to vote the bums out of office.
 
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