Crazy, unneeded gun design just sprung into my head: Double shot revolver.

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I was just sitting around one day, handling my S&W 625, and thinking a very stupid thought. I was wondering if you could ever make a DA revolver that, when you pulled the trigger, it would push the hammer back twice and the cylinder would revolver over two bullets, so in essense the gun would shoot two bullets with one pull of the trigger, one right after the other. Like, halfway through the trigger pull would be one cycle of the cylinder and hammer, and then the other half of the pull would be another. Sure, this would screw up SA fire. And yes, it probably wont/couldn't be done. Yet, I was curious. In no way could I ever be conceived to be a gunsmith, so don't laugh at me too hard.

Is this in any way plausible?
 
I'd think this impracticable to achieve.

The long DA pull for one shot is needed to provide enough excursion of motion to get that hammer all the ways back. If mechanics changed to make one pull do two hammer excursions - the leverage moment would have to be 50% or less - ie, mechanical advantage would be compromized - to such an extent that DA pull would be double poundage or worse - and probably as a result very imprecise for control.

I have not thought out the possible mechanics to achieve your idea, but this reduced moment aspect is enough to preclude it.

Rotating the cylinder thru two stations would relatively be the easier part.

So - no - not feasable IMO.
 
I didn't think it was very feasable, but I had to ask. I would be out shooting right now, but it's raining torrents. So all I can do is sit at home and think up stupid gun designs.

However, making a revolver that would shoot two (taking out all the facts that wouldn't make it work, hypothetically speaking) bullets in one trigger pull, some people could shoot them pretty fast. The world record for shooting a 625 six times is .59 seconds. If I find the article, I'll post it...
 
DH - well it is only my own opinion - someone else may think otherwise! ;)

Jerry Mikulic is the top guy for speed - many folks have seen the vid clip of him performing - no link to hand right now. IIRC he did 6 - reload and 6 - in about 1.9 secs!!! For someone of his skills, I actually doubt any ''double DA'' would make things much quicker!:)
 
BATFE would NOT approve, unfortunately, unless you had a double stack cylinder, and two barrels, and in effect was disharging a double barrel with each trigger pull. It would either be huge, or caliber so small as to be useless....unless you could build one in the .17 Hornady....
 
TexasSIGman said:
That my friend is the exact definition of a machine gun.

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I saw in the rifle forum where the design of a Ruger Mini-14 was ok to be outfitted to shoot two bullets, one with the squeeze of the trigger and the other with the release of the trigger. That is what subconsiously made me think of this crazy revolver design.

I've seen quadbarrel shotguns, why not a double barrel revolver? I'd buy it. (if I had the money, that is)
 
Something similar to this happens from time to time when firing very powerful revolvers. I remember a number of times when shooting my old SRH the recoil would cause me to jerk off a second shot almost instantly after the first. I could never figure out how to duplicate it or control it. It just happened from time to time.
 
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How about a DA derringer. Get rid of that trigger that can't be cocked in a hurry.Just two pulls on the trigger, Use to be a way to costly 4 barrel 357 some years back but it weighed a bunch too. Ever watched that cowboy quickdraw guy shoot that colt and empty all the chambersa all you hear is what sounds like a single long shot. That makes JM look slow. But no reloads And shoot a 1911 at 600 rounds a minute cycle rate.
 
there is no way for the idea to work. you could try to design something, but youd end up in a straightjacket, rubber pants, in the corner of a padded room.

it would be the aproximation of making a 1/4 scale model of that russian machine gun that used a pulley and counter weight system.
 
The way to do approximately what you want is to load two projectiles in one case. You would have to carefully work up a load but it can be done. Chances are you are not going to be happy with the accuracy or the power delivered by each bullet.

I am editing this post to add that I have not done this. I believe that it was done by using two round balls and then making a further allowance for the reduced case capacity by using a very reduced power load. If anyone is inclined to try this please proceed with utmost caution.

Bill
 
Well, it has been done. The Walch revolver was something like that, and there have been several foreign revolvers with multiple chambers fired with two hammers. I don't recall any DA revolvers working exactly as you describe, but someone made a .22/.357 a while back that had two rows of chambers; the hammer nose moved to change from the outer (.357) to the inner (.22) row.

There are two real problems. The first is that there really is no market for such a thing and the added weight and size take it out of the practical carry range. (Consider the size of the cylinder for a 6 discharge -12 shot- revolver and you will see what I mean.)

Jim
 
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It would be illegal, because you would have a machine handgun.Read NFA rules concerning definition of a machine gun. That said ,it can be done .
 
rcmodel I remember the 357 four barrel. Only 26oz!! That basic design today would make a nice stacked 2 shot and fit in all kind of small pockets. Maybe in a 357sig or 40cal. Just loss the darn triggers on the current derringers. I was given a regular 38 derringer about 30 years ago and just hate it just becuse i can't get it cocked with out a second hand. I don't remember the 22 da's deringers from high standard. That cop 357 is still cool by todays standards.
 
I recall an episode of "Get Smart" where KAOS had invented a pistol that consisted of two revolvers held together side by side on one grip frame. The idea was to outgun CONTROL two to one. It was called the "stereophonic pistol"
 
Am I the first person to notice that this thread is originally from 2006?

Anyway, I don't see why it couldn't be done. Just make sure that there's a definite "stop" before the second shot fires. That way it should be legal. Two shots, two "functions" of the trigger. Just like each "click" on a crank is a "function," with the legal, crank-operated gatling guns.

It'd be sort of like a 2-stage trigger. The takeup fires the first shot, then the break fires the second. It'd be pretty easy with a double barreled revolver. The takeup raises both hammers and drops the bottom one, then the break drops the top hammer.
 
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