CSI MIAMI and old ammunition

[heavyshooter]

This thread came up as a result of a conversation I had with a friend after watching CSI Miami (a virtual well of firearms information). There was an episode about old ammunition that was being sold illegally. During the investigation, Detective Calleigh Duquesne unintentially dropped a WWII era 9mm round onto the floor and it discharged. The discharge was the result of age induced volatility. Who are we to question CSI Miami?!?! Maybe the ammunition was not properly stored.

I have learned so much from them. Did you guys know that the Ruger GP100 with the 3" barrel is a "rare gun." I would never have known that if it were not for the lab rats on CSI Miami.

COMMENTS!!!

 

[yeti]

It is kind of like getting a medical degree from watching Marcus Welby reruns.

 

[Art Eatman]

I've read that the impacts of misinformation of CSI-Whatzit have caused questioning about viewing of it, during voire dire in jury selection.

 

[Jaybird78]

I can not stand all the crime/law/justice/cop/navy/investigation shows. They all make me want to . I love them just as much when coworkers, neighbors, etc. BELIEVE the that they say and show.

JUST THINK.....those viewers who BELIEVE are the same ones who VOTE!

How is that for a Halloween scare.

 

[Japle]

My nephew is an editor on that show.

No one involved in the show is a gun expert and no one cares about accuracy.

They frequently state that such-and-such gun is registered to someone.
Florida doesn't have gun registration.

No one cares. They assume that you don't care, either.

If you want firearms accuracy, pay attention to your sight alignment and trigger control.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

Thanks for yet another brilliantly informative post about the perils of relying on prime time televion shows for firearms information. You may have just saved a life.

I know some here may lament the fact these CSI threads are posted almost daily, but it is essential we get the word out. There might still be literally dozens of people who think TV reflects reality.

 

[pappy]

It is kind of like getting a medical degree from watching Marcus Welby reruns.

You mean my neighbor really ISN"T a docotor????

 

[spuscg]

csi miami once said the murder weapon was a kimber revolver

 

[salthouse]

Jorg, you over estimate the nation of sheep. "They" do believe what they see on tv. Its an obamanation.

 

[KyJim]

Prosecutors and real forensic specialists often have to educate jurors about the realities of forensic science and dispel the "CSI effect" as it is sometimes called.

 

[benEzra]

CSI Miami is good comedy.

The one and only CSI-M episode I've ever watched was the one in which a woman was secretly an identical triplet and traded places with her sisters in her marriage, and they all 3 conspired to murder "her" husband, but it turns out that the victim was actually the husband's secret body double.

Next week: CSI Miami solves a murder perpetrated by invaders from the planet Zork, but only after ruling out circus clowns, a bartender, and Don Imus.

 

[rodregier]

OTOH, if you're truly knowledgable about a subject, you'll likely never serve on a jury where evidence on that subject is to be presented. Attorneys on both sides like "blank slates".

 

[blutarsky]

I've read that the impacts of misinformation of CSI-Whatzit have caused questioning about viewing of it, during voire dire in jury selection.

the last time i was on jury duty, and had to endure two days of selection before finally not getting selected, this is something that actually came up twice. once was when all of us were milling around on the second day before the several hours of questioning, it was first-thing in the morning and everyone was waiting for things to start -- many of us brought coffee with us and were outside and shooting the breeze. one of the guys *really* didn't want to be there, and was talking about different "reasons" for being dismissed. one of the ones a lot of the folks seemed to believe in was trying to get in that you were a fan of the various CSI shows on tv. i thought that was a bunch of bunk, but during the questioning the prosecutor asked the jury pool to go down the line and asked us one-by-one what our favorite tv show was. i never was one to watch CSI, so i didn't lie -- but i'd say 75-80% of all the potential jurors said that CSI was their "favorite" tv show... i just can't believe that would really be true. so my guess is that the rumor spread that if you said that you would be disqualified. i wish i could say that it didn't work, but my recollection is that most (all?) of those selected did NOT say that CSI was their most favorite show on tv.

 

[spuscg]

the awful firearm "knowlege" is overshadowed by caruso's poor acting

 

[heavyshooter]

I never considered the possibility that viewers would actually consider the show an authority. You mean that there are people in the world who believe that the police department has a machine that can collect the BG's sneeze residue as it wafts in the air of the crime scene? And not only can they collect it but they have a mucus data base by which they can identify the suspect? Honestly, if they buy that then the whole "Kimber revolver" and “rare Ruger” foolishness seems less of an issue. I bet we could scam them into buying bottled water too.

Heavy

 

[qajaq59]

JUST THINK.....those viewers who BELIEVE are the same ones who VOTE!

Scary isn't it?

 

[Hypnogator]

No one involved in the show is a gun expert and no one cares about accuracy.

Yeah, IIRC they also said the WWII 9mm cartridges they were examining were loaded with Black Powder! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[Officers'Wife]

Excuse me... It's TV for crying out loud! Given the choice between science and ratings science, or for that matter common sense goes out the window. Walker crosses the Mexican border without thought or consequense, Sabrina has a talking cat and House kills and revives patients as a matter of course. What makes CSI any different?

Selena

 

[Just Jim]

You are right, no sense looking for the truth on TV

jj

 

[heavyshooter]

"You are right, no sense looking for the truth on TV" -- Just Jim

That is Hilarious!!!

 

[barnetmill]

Well at least CSI is funnier than SNL and the women are also better looking.

 

[mbt2001]

*** are you guys talking about, a Ruger is a rare gun used by the Germans in WW2 and ammo, unless stored in a police or army locker, can GO OFF... just like that. I know people who died after that happened and they told me about it.

A friend of mines cousin was arrested for shooting a gun in the air and the bullet went from Atlanta to NYC and killed someone. That is why the Mayor of NYC is pissed off at Georgia, they don't realize they are killing people everytime they shoot, because bullets can go around the world if you aim correctly!

 

[MikePGS]

In general cop shows aren't great when it comes to accurate firearms information, but for some reason CSI: Miami is in a class of its own for goof ups. Need I point you any further than the episode with the bullets that caused someone to be vaporized?

 

[blkbrd666]

OTOH, if you're truly knowledgable about a subject, you'll likely never serve on a jury where evidence on that subject is to be presented. Attorneys on both sides like "blank slates".

O.J???...yeah, that's Orange Julius...they serve those in the mall!

 

[Avenger]

because bullets can go around the world if you aim correctly!

Or even THROUGH the world, if you own a Mosin. Hunh, wonder if that is why the murder rate dropped in the late 90s, once the former USSR started selling us Mosins....
I only ever watched one episode of the original CSI, and I thought that something was wrong with my TV. Even with the brightness all the way up, I could barely see a darn thing. Apparently, this is something the producers do on purpose to lend "verisimilitude" to the show.