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[belton-deer-hunter]

i watched this last night and saw an intresting tack a women killed with a nail gun i would like to try this ( on targets) they wired back the saftey and opened fire on her very messy anyone tried to shoot a nail gun in this way? looks liei t would be fun mabee full auto wont need a stamp or even to be 18 to buy one i see a new wave of gang warfare lol

 

[Rickstir]

I've had a ND with one building my house. Nail flew about 40 feet, pretty damn fast. MY cousin got one in the chest close to his heart, but he made it okay.

 

[Omni04]

with my limited roofing experience, we needed an air compressor to use it. I don't imagine many 16 year old gang bangers will carry one of those around the hood!

on a side note, that got me wondering if i could take that to my local shooting range, or if they would have a problem with it. It is a nail "gun" after all!

 

[Jim Watson]

Well that was something that occurred to me, how she could pick up a nailer and promptly spike the sleuth coming in the door. In no scene in the show was an air compressor involved.

Do NOT get information on firearms or any other technical subject from TV or movies. It is mostly hokum.

 

[patrol120]

Cordless nail guns are not uncommon. I used to have a Paslode Framing gun that used CO2 cartridges.

 

[MLH]

Some nailguns

Use butane or propane and an ignitor to fire the gas off sending the nail out at very high speeds!

 

[Rob1035]

yup, done this while on the clock doing home resto/remodel/construct

depending on the nail gun, you can actually hold the "muzzle safety" back with pliers or whatever else and go to town. Not really accurate past 10-15 feet, but it would probably still hurt. Of course, never try this without proper eye protection and a solid backstop. Oh, this is with a compressed air version, never tried the battery or wireless or whatever.

I'm reminded of "Mr. Larson" of Happy Gilmore

 

[mbs357]

There are also .22 blank powered ones.

 

[TallPine]

There are also .22 blank powered ones.

Yeah, but they're not really "blank" anymore when a nail is in front of it.

Then there was the guy in Canada that tried to register his glue-gun (or something like that) as a protest

 

[Dr.Rob]

The second nail gun was shown to be electric (big battery on the bottom)... but what's STUPID is they get the kid's glove resin off the gun, BUT NOT the Step-bimbo's fingerprints.

Gah sometimes TV just annoys me.

 

[Red_SC]

I worked construction through college and a couple of years afterwards, and I was about the only one on the crew without 'extra' holes. One guy (the boss's brother ) got a framing nail through the back into the lung, and quite a few had them through their hands or feet. The guy who got lung shot was back to work in a couple of days.

It's not really a safety on the muzzle, it's a shroud to help you nail faster. When you're nailing fast, you hold the trigger down and every time you tap the board, it shoots a nail into it. Most of them have a place on the right side that you can hold the shroud back so you can use it without being against the board if you're in a tight corner. Which of course led to some interesting nail gun wars. They stung pretty good if you got hit by one at a distance, but usually didn't stick in. And no, we never had plungers break for unexplainable reasons.

One time we were building two houses side by side, and got into a nail gun war. Our guns were strong enough to launch them to the other house, but theirs couldn't reach back. Use enough gun, indeed!

 

[dfaugh]

Zapped myself

with a 2" staple outa a pneumatic gun once...Went all the way through the "fat" part of my thumb...Didn't feel a thing going in, but boy did it hurt coming out, as there are barbs on those things...nothing to sneeze at in any case

 

[CletusFudd]

Almost got it in the head

i watched this last night and saw an intresting tack a women killed with a nail gun i would like to try this ( on targets) they wired back the saftey and opened fire on her very messy anyone tried to shoot a nail gun in this way? looks liei t would be fun mabee full auto wont need a stamp or even to be 18 to buy one i see a new wave of gang warfare lol

I was plumbing a hospital years ago when this moron shot one through the wallboard right next to my head. It went through the wallboard on the other side of the room and down the hall. We had some seriously tense words shortly thereafter.

 

[newfalguy101]

The "muzzle device" IS a safety, its purpose is to ensure the gun is against the surface when fired.

Course when some moron walks around with the trigger pressed ANYTHING that depresses the "muzzle device" will cause the gun to duscharge, such as the inside of my FOOT . Oh and by the way, feet bleed ALOT when you have a 2 inch staple in em .

I dont know if a nail gun will go full-auto, it seems to me that the guns used at work are more "bump-fired" than full-auto, ie.... the trigger is held back and the gun is fired by bouncing the gun. I may very well be wrong as I am going by observation and not experience.

 

[Rob1035]

yup, I was going to say, the muzzle collar, device, whatever, prevents the nail gun from firing without being pressed against something (or pulled back)

 

[Sheldon J]

WE NEED NAIL GUN CONTROL NOW! that and a ban on assault nail guns, and those dangerous ones with a high cap mag!.
Now back to the real world my son wanted one when they used it aganst the BG in Home alone III. One more thing who needs air, they also have a butane powered version.

 

[Chupacabra]

When I was helping my step-dad build our house, we shot a couple nails just to see what it was like. Just hold back that little safety plate and pull the trigger. The muzzle velocity was actually quite impressive and the nails traveled in a nice arc for about 100 feet.

It was pretty stupid thing to do, but we had five acres of forest for a backstop.

 

[yorec]

I've shot one in a competetive target scenario before... Sure it was at a marker drawn circle on the opposite side wall of a roofless and partially constuceted double care garage on a spur of the moment thing, but it was fun!

The one we had was a compressed air semi-auto only (one nail per press of the trigger) and it had no shroud thingy - easy to point and shoot too. I've no idea of make or model. Fairly accurate at that 20 foot range, but the challenge was to get the nail to stick in the wood instead of richocheting off to parts unknown - they don't fly point first very far. (Even had range rules and an RO to make sure no one had an accident as described above, lol) No blood was drawn.

'twas a good lunchbreak.

 

[chink]

Omni04, actually air bag suspensions are popular now. They put an air take in the trunk where they use to put the resevior of Hyrdrualic fluid and use a compressor to fill air bags to lift the car and then purge the air bags to lower the car. So in theory, you just put a stonger compressor and a larger air tank and drive bys with nail guns. So I think Sheldon J is correct we need nailgun control. I think the rule should be No nail gun without a 4473 .

 

[cracked butt]

A framing nailer might hurt you a bit if you were a few feet from it.
I used to work in a millwork factory- people sometimes screwed around with nailers - they could sting if you were hit 20 feet away, but most wouldn't even break the skin unless the skin was very close to the gun, of course we didn't use framing nailers there, the biggest we used was a 2" stapler.

A Paslode nailer uses Butane to drive nails, but you can't defeat the safety and go full auto with it or even semiauto- the gaurd in front of the nailer has to be let out and depressed every time its shot in order to refill the combustion chamber with a shot of butane.

Nail guns don't work the same way as a firearm- in a nailgun a piston is driven by compressed air or burning gasses and acts like a hammer punching the nail into the wood. It doesn't push nails at a very high velocity (relatively speaking) in comparison with a bullet from a handgun.

 

[JamisJockey]

I'm actually elbow deep in framing out my basement. What I don't get is, don't most nailguns (the two I've used do) have a saftey mechanisim where they have to be pressed up against the target to discharge a nail? I can't speak for the cordless ones, but the ones I've used are compessed air and have this saftey feature.
The only cordless nailers I saw on Lowes.com were finish nailers, BTW.

 

[tc300mag1]

The second nail gun was shown to be electric (big battery on the bottom)... but what's STUPID is they get the kid's glove resin off the gun, BUT NOT the Step-bimbo's fingerprints.

Gah sometimes TV just annoys me.

No second one was a pasload (sp) i have one yes it has a small 7 volt batter and a big chamber for the gas cartridges

i use mine a ton havent tried trying back the safety going to town wouldnt work on it becuse you have to allow it to recarge or burn more of what ever it does cant think of it right not but dont think its butane

 

[newfalguy101]

(snip)don't most nailguns (the two I've used do) have a saftey mechanisim where they have to be pressed up against the target to discharge a nail?(snip)

YES, ALL newer guns do, I am quite sure its an OSHA requirement


And as previously stated they can be easily defeated.

The guns at work have a safety that actually resembles the trigger on a 1911, what I mean is there is a bow that extends from the muzzle up to the gun to unlock the trigger.

I AM NOT RECOMMENDING THIS, JUST EXPLAINING HOW ITS DONE

look at the safety collar, it should have linkage of some kind connecting it to the trigger, FROM THE SIDE of the gun body, pull that linkage up and walaw, the trigger is free to fire at will.

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE THE PALM OF YOUR HAND TO TRIGGER THE SAFETY, THIS WILL CAUSE LOTS OF SWEARING, LOSS OF BLOOD, AS WELL AS NAIL GUN PRIVELAGES


The preceeding is not to be used by anyone with an I.Q. lower than the common house fly

 

[JamisJockey]

YES, ALL newer guns do, I am quite sure its an OSHA requirement


And as previously stated they can be easily defeated.

The guns at work have a safety that actually resembles the trigger on a 1911, what I mean is there is a bow that extends from the muzzle up to the gun to unlock the trigger.

I AM NOT RECOMMENDING THIS, JUST EXPLAINING HOW ITS DONE

look at the safety collar, it should have linkage of some kind connecting it to the trigger, FROM THE SIDE of the gun body, pull that linkage up and walaw, the trigger is free to fire at will.

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE THE PALM OF YOUR HAND TO TRIGGER THE SAFETY, THIS WILL CAUSE LOTS OF SWEARING, LOSS OF BLOOD, AS WELL AS NAIL GUN PRIVELAGES


The preceeding is not to be used by anyone with an I.Q. lower than the common house fly

Si, yes, easily done. I wasn't paying great attention, however, was the nailgun modified in the show?

BTW, I've had a few ND's with the one I was using before, borrowed old beater, usually from a double tap going off. My basement is about 40' long and some would go down the foundation, bang left, and then another left, and then hit the dryer loudly enough for my wife to hollar down the stairs.

 

[cracked butt]

look at the safety collar, it should have linkage of some kind connecting it to the trigger, FROM THE SIDE of the gun body, pull that linkage up and walaw, the trigger is free to fire at will.

Yup, that is how its done with a compressed air nailer, pull back the wire 'cage' with the left index finger and rapid fire with the right triger finger.

This doesn't work with Paslodes however- the safety mechanism has to be cycled every time in order to recharge the combustion chamber, and even if you could cycle it with your finger, it still takes a fraction of a second to recharge, making rapid fire an impossibility.